Americans Have No Balls! - Page 5

kamikazi89 · 05-22-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by anitablaze

Well the government has to work to make the money through seizures, and arrests. They could make rediculous amounts of money off of the tax they would make us pay on weed. They would have to work to make and get the bill, but they easy sailin from there on.

plus, taxes could be avoided completely, easily(not even talking exemptions, medical provider/non-profit, religious use..etc etc etc

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 05-22-2008, 12:08 PM

1 for all and all for one.

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 05-22-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by anitablaze

Hmm... your right. but the more I think about it the more i think legalizing is a bad idea. decriminalization is the way to go. I don't think you guys should push too hard though. it will happen eventually.

Whats the difference between legalization and decriminalization? either way it's immoral what they are doing. It is a shame that this world has come to be run by Laws not based on Good morals, But governmental beneficiancy.

kamikazi89 · 05-22-2008, 12:10 PM

heh, moral crusading is how this mess got started

anitablaze · 05-22-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThEnEeD4DaWeEd

Whats the difference between legalization and decriminalization? either way it's immoral what they are doing. It is a shame that this world has come to be run by Laws not based on Good morals, But governmental beneficiancy.

Again, you have to remember we are the minority. What is not moral to us, is completely justifiable and 100% moral to many other people. There is not much difference between decriminalization and legalization, but the difference will work in our favour. Trust me on that.

kamikazi89 · 05-22-2008, 06:04 PM

decriminalization is a half measure..free the weed

anitablaze · 05-22-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kamikazi89

decriminalization is a half measure..free the weed

If we do that the gov. will kick our asses. look at smokes. 9-13 dollars a pack? for 25 smokes? not cool. it'll happen w/ weed too. unless you grow your own..

kamikazi89 · 05-22-2008, 06:14 PM

growing your own rules

lus it would help the economy..the price would drop , right now it's artifically inflated by wholesale prohibition

and there's far more uses for cannabis then tobacco

©antSEEme · 05-22-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by anitablaze

If we do that the gov. will kick our asses. look at smokes. 9-13 dollars a pack? for 25 smokes? not cool. it'll happen w/ weed too. unless you grow your own..

^ um, if you were to spend $9-$13 on dank now, you wouldnt have 25 joints. and decrim. = less harsh "punishments" whereas legalization = no punishment; its legal.

Pure Blood · 05-22-2008, 08:17 PM

anitablaze

Hey look, every thing you are saying are good ideas. The main thing you are missing here is that, WE are the majority. Where do you get your sources that more people think weed is bad? Do you get it from government senses? How about an organization founded through the government to be nonprofit. Best of all how about a company that dose research on these things, but also lobby in congress and get pay offs them selves.

WHO CAN YOU TRUST!

This is what you should ask your self. Look around and see for yourself how many people smoke. I walk around with a shirt:

I here people tell me nice shirt all the time, never had one person say 'take that shirt off' or even approach me in a negative way. I want people to ask me about my shirt so i can tell them the truth. I'm not saying that Everyone smokes, but i am saying that the majority, DID or DO. Look at our history, the only people that want this not legalized are the people in office.

Also, when it comes to legalization or decriminalization, you must ask your self, "Self, Do i want to be Free, or do i want to just feel like I'm Free?" WHY would you want to let them control anything you do???? Do you like to be controlled? I'm sorry i just can't understand how anyone would let someone tell them what to do.

anitablaze · 05-23-2008, 10:15 AM

Pure Blood

Thanks, and you also are correct. Something has to be done about the amount of control our governments use upon us. However why would you use violence to try to end it? It wont work. It will just get us further and further in.
Lol! are you serious? You can convince yourself all you want, but we are not the majority. Its getting closer, but as of yet, we are not the majority. And lol, there is no census that asks if you smoke weed... not in Canada anyways. Since weed is against the law, it would be like asking people 'do you, or have you ever done a B&E'

Because weed is against the law... you arent free? Let me tell you how free we are. Maybe you should visit some other countries. Like South Korea. Then tell me we arent free. I mean give me a break. we arent free because a drug, that does sometimes impair judgement is illegal....

Yes, I will let the government tell me what to do sometimes. They set guidlines. Thats thier job, and I respect that. I don't necessarily respect them, but I respect that they do thier job most of the time. They tell me I am not allowed to harm another human being, or another persons property and I don't.
Maybe you should think about what would happen if there wasnt a government. Not everyone has morals.

I do think that the government and police dont focus on the places they should. Marc Emery (God bless) is in prison for 5 years for selling seeds (by the US gov. might I add, not the Canadian), while teachers who molest thier students are in prison for 3? And murderers are in jail for 5? Rapists in jail for 2? Doesnt make sense. Sometimes I do wonder whats happened to our world.

anitablaze · 05-23-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ©antSEEme

^ um, if you were to spend $9-$13 on dank now, you wouldnt have 25 joints. and decrim. = less harsh "punishments" whereas legalization = no punishment; its legal.

your right in a perfect world legalizing would be better. but the government will find a way to make a lot of money off of it. I think decrim. is more of a nogotiation, between us, the gov. and the people against legalization.

kamikazi89 · 05-25-2008, 12:22 PM

i see no reason to keep the DEA in the pot busting buisness, we should accept nothing short of legalization

Yaotzin · 06-17-2008, 06:17 PM

i dream of the day that i can smoke a j with my father in peace. no worrys of fines or penalties. just good ol mother earth in our lungs, pink floyd's learning to fly ringing in our ears and love in the air. peace all around.

.V.

jerseydave · 06-22-2008, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kamikazi89

i see no reason to keep the DEA in the pot busting buisness, we should accept nothing short of legalization

The US Gov must spend Billions busting people, housing potheads in jail, flying around and burning pot plants, etc. This, I think, is the best argument for legalization: it will save us billions in tax dollars.

What we need is a cable show like Lou Dobbs has on CNN. The only thing he talks about is imigration, everynight, night after night. MSNBC should produce a show about how much our anti-drug war is costing American taxpayers.

gvr4 · 07-01-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThEnEeD4DaWeEd

Hey man my head isn't in my ass I'm a vet I know how fucked up the real world is. I have yet to see thousands of people smokin doobs walking to the nations capitol. Next time try to be a bit more polite. If you see someone who is not as informed as you inform them and teach them. Dont be a complete fucking asshole whole talks like his balls are so big they keep him from leaving the comp chair to say that shit to someones face. Cause I guarentee ya, you wouldn't say it to mine.
Have a nice day.

You haven't been at capitol hill in Denver on April 20th I'm assuming. I know for a fact some pretty major cities all across the nation have rallies and protests. In Denver they meet right in front of the capitol building, I'm not sure in other cities. I've seen upwards of 3000 people at this event.

Pure Blood · 07-01-2008, 08:53 PM

This shit, just got worse for US USA Prisoners. Mandatory Body Fluid Samples Loom for Drivers Suspected of Being High Now they are getting us in our cars, weather or not we smoked in 1 week or not if its in our system where fucked.

So what can we do now? Fuck, who here is as pissed off as me? We need to start this shit and fuck some shit up.

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05-22-2008, 08:17 PM	#90 (permalink)
Pure Blood Terrorist Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United Slaves of America Posts: 37 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	anitablaze Hey look, every thing you are saying are good ideas. The main thing you are missing here is that, WE are the majority. Where do you get your sources that more people think weed is bad? Do you get it from government senses? How about an organization founded through the government to be nonprofit. Best of all how about a company that dose research on these things, but also lobby in congress and get pay offs them selves. WHO CAN YOU TRUST! This is what you should ask your self. Look around and see for yourself how many people smoke. I walk around with a shirt: I here people tell me nice shirt all the time, never had one person say 'take that shirt off' or even approach me in a negative way. I want people to ask me about my shirt so i can tell them the truth. I'm not saying that Everyone smokes, but i am saying that the majority, DID or DO. Look at our history, the only people that want this not legalized are the people in office. Also, when it comes to legalization or decriminalization, you must ask your self, "Self, Do i want to be Free, or do i want to just feel like I'm Free?" WHY would you want to let them control anything you do???? Do you like to be controlled? I'm sorry i just can't understand how anyone would let someone tell them what to do. __________________ There is to Many Cages in the Land of the FREE! The only way to stop the lies is to tell the truth. By Ryan S. Peifer "One Man's Freedom Fighter is another Man's Terrorist." Not all recognize the possibility of the legitimate use of violence by civilians against an invader in an occupied country, and would thus label all "Resistance movements" as Terrorist groups. Ultimately, the distinction is a "Political judgment."

05-23-2008, 10:15 AM	#91 (permalink)
anitablaze we r the naked ones Join Date: May 2008 Location: buttfuck nowhere Posts: 133 Blog Entries: 8 Thanks: 11 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Pure Blood Thanks, and you also are correct. Something has to be done about the amount of control our governments use upon us. However why would you use violence to try to end it? It wont work. It will just get us further and further in. Lol! are you serious? You can convince yourself all you want, but we are not the majority. Its getting closer, but as of yet, we are not the majority. And lol, there is no census that asks if you smoke weed... not in Canada anyways. Since weed is against the law, it would be like asking people 'do you, or have you ever done a B&E' Because weed is against the law... you arent free? Let me tell you how free we are. Maybe you should visit some other countries. Like South Korea. Then tell me we arent free. I mean give me a break. we arent free because a drug, that does sometimes impair judgement is illegal.... Yes, I will let the government tell me what to do sometimes. They set guidlines. Thats thier job, and I respect that. I don't necessarily respect them, but I respect that they do thier job most of the time. They tell me I am not allowed to harm another human being, or another persons property and I don't. Maybe you should think about what would happen if there wasnt a government. Not everyone has morals. I do think that the government and police dont focus on the places they should. Marc Emery (God bless) is in prison for 5 years for selling seeds (by the US gov. might I add, not the Canadian), while teachers who molest thier students are in prison for 3? And murderers are in jail for 5? Rapists in jail for 2? Doesnt make sense. Sometimes I do wonder whats happened to our world. __________________ BOMBING for PEACE is like FUCKING for VIRGINITY "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent"- Mohandas K. Gandhi Look at what it's doing to you; but that's okay, look at how it feels.

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Yaotzin YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 30 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	i dream of the day that i can smoke a j with my father in peace. no worrys of fines or penalties. just good ol mother earth in our lungs, pink floyd's learning to fly ringing in our ears and love in the air. peace all around. .V.