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YaHookan
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I have been lurking for a while and thought that it was time to share my story! Had to take the dreaded hair test on Monday May 12th. Found out today that I had successfully altered the chemical makeup of my hair enough to be below the cutoff levels for THC and Cocaine. I am a white male 5'11", 185lbs., extremely short (1/2"), thin, light brown hair that grows very fast. Over the last 45 days (with my hair being short I had already cut the other 45 days out) I had smoked approximately 5 times but only about 4 hits per session from a pinch hitter and it was commercial kind-bud not the shit that killed superman or anything. Also, on four occasions I had snorted some coke(1/2 gram, 1 gram, 8 Ball, 1 gram). The last smoke session was on May 4th and the last coke session was on April 23rd. So I get a call on the 6th of May about a job with a chip company that I had previously interviewed with. So I am concerned about the type of test that they conduct and low and behold a chip company does a fucking hair test. WTF!!! They want me to buy their chips when I have the munchies but don't want our kind working for them. By this time I am scouring the web to see how to alter the results. After stumbling across YA HOOKA and reading everything thread that was available on hair tests I had no other options but to give every single one of the suggestions a try. I will now use a chronological time line to exemplify the procedures utilized.
May 8th-Used the Macujo method twice, shampooed with T-Gel and T-Sal. May 9th-Used the Macujo method once, Bleach/Peroxide/Aloe Mixture once, shampooed with T-Gel, T-Sal, and Aloe Rid. May 10th-Used the Macujo method once, had my hair professionally stripped (20% Peroxide/20% Bleach Solution) and Colored with a 20% Solution. May 11th-Used the Macujo method once, used a detoxifying shampoo(STAT) as directed on the package. May 12th-Day of the Test-Used the detoxifying shampoo as directed again, then went back to my professional hair stylist because my hair was completely blond and she was going to put color back in (I let her in on what I was trying to do on the 17th) we used another 10% Peroxide solution to color back to my original color. Left the Salon at 12 PM took the test at 2:30 PM. May 16th-Got the results back from the potential employer. All Negative. Will start on Monday. I am not sure which method was the most important but I am all but convinced that you must get your hair completely stripped and recolored to get rid of all of the metabolites in your hair. The hair is made of 3 parts cuticle, medulla, and cortex. Some people with thin light colored hair do not have a medulla. The cuticle is the outer layer and the cortex is the inner layer that the melanin(hair color) resides. That is also where the drug metabolites collect and remain in the hair. So stripping that color out also strips everything else out with it. I sure hope that this will help anyone else out that is facing the dreaded hair sample drug test. ![]() |
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YaHookan
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Great news for Blind Faith; toke it up buddy! You just passed/cheated a test that claims to be virtually 100% accurate bawawahh!
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You will see evidence of this the first 5 minute cycle. Just rinse it out and look in the mirror. Re-apply and do the 2nd 5 mn cycle; look in the mirror, etc. The mixture is not left in your hair enough for it to alter the color. You'll see. And good luck!
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So we finish the eighteenth and he’s gonna stiff me. And I say, “Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.” And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice. Compliments of Bill Murray "Caddyshack" 1980 |
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YaHookan
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Going to have to take a hair test in a few days. I smoked marijuana approximately 1-2 times weekly for the past year and have not done any drugs for the past 8 days. I will use the Idavisa method and report the results.
I do have a decent amount of hair on my body which I am going to shave, but I am curious. Is there any chance they would take hair from your eyebrows? |
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YaHookan
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Also, is there a chance they will want me to wash my hair at the clinic? I tried putting some conditioner in and letting it air dry - it looks like I have gelled my hair. I'm not sure if they will want to have completely clean hair for the test.
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YaHookan
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Hair test 2 weeks got to pass!
I just got a call for a second interview with a great company. I know they do hair tests but really want this job and Ive got an in. I've got friends both there and in the industry so I cannot fail a hair test! I'm 6 ft 195 pds brownish hair. Smoked 2 hits about 68 days ago, and again 4 hits 60 days ago (geek joint). Very causaul smoked, in fact not much before that. Had my hair cut twice (last one a week ago) since last use and now its at about 3/4". In theory, have I cut off most of the tainted hair? Or does it matter because they use a method similar to how they cut a tree and look at the history in a short amount of time? Im concerned there might still be tainted hair (especially when the look for the "other" metabites). I plan on getting started with a hair treatment since my test wont be for another week or so. The company the use is pschymedics. any suggestions if im ok and what treatment I should do.
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So I entered my hair test a week or so ago with about a month and a half clean, short (newly cut from long) hair, and I did the shampoo method you recommended. I got the call yesterday that I passed so... good luck to everyone else on their tests, it worked for me.
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YaHookan
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careful when mixing chemicals
please read the sides of your shampoos before mixing with bleach. shampoos such as nexus aloe rid contain a number of different acids which when combined with bleach produces chlorine. Chlorine is a bitch on your lungs if you're in a closed area such as a bathroom and could be very damaging. I dont know what is in the suggested VO5, maybe someone can share. P.S. Any responses to my previous post?
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YaHookan
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Question about the hydrogen peroxide
Dear Idavisa,
What strength of hydrogen peroxide do you recommend for the bleach/peroxide/vo5 treatment? Do you recommend the 3% drug-store variety (which I have been led to believe elsewhere to be ineffective), or the 40-volume variety (about 12% I think) or higher/industrial grades (such as 35%). Thank-you so much for sharing your method!!! Rob |
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YaHookan
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Any chemistry experts out there?
As a previous posting noted, mixing chemicals can be extremely dangerous. They were concerned about mixing chemicals with shampoo, and rightly so.
We also need to understand whether the bleach and the hydrogen peroxide will react with each other, and how so. Searching the internet, you can find all sorts of seeming contradictions on this issue. Some folks say that bleach and hydrogen peroxide will neutralize each other, forming common table salt, water, and oxygen. If true, would that make the solution worthless for our purposes? Worse yet other folks warn of creating hydrochloric acid, poisonous chlorine gas, other dangerous gases, and/or extreme heat, from this reaction. Chemistry class was too many years ago for me! Can someone help us to understand the chemical equation and its implications? Thank-you. Rob |
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just wanted to share....
IDAVISA...
My fiance' found your post this morning prior to me going to have a hair follicle test, and I thank you so much for your info! I am at stake for possibly losing my children to my ex (who I now have found out he and his girlfriend is molesting my three year old daughter)It's a sad and horrible thing!! He is just grasping at straws because he is now being investigated! I only smoke weed occasoinally until all this crap started then it became regular but NOT infront of my children or around them!! It has helped my nerves so much!! I never thought I would actually want to kill someone in my whole life with a passion like I do for them!! (Don't worry I control it! I know he's about to get his if you know what I mean! Killing them would be an easy way out! I want them to PAY for what they have done!!!) I'm sure if you have kids you too will understand these feelings!! What I'm getting at (I know I'm getting to the point, just trying to give you some insite on what's going on!) is that before I found out about your method I ordered the total body cleanse (which I won't add where from, don't want to seem as if I'm trying to sell something! Looks as though you've been harassed enough!) I did that for seven days prior to treating my hair.(it was just in case they wanted to do more than a hair sample) I bought the hair mud. (not to be used until the day OF testing!) I bought the ultra cleanse and aloe rid as well! I also bought apple cider vinegar, deep facial cleanser, & laundry det. ! Then like I said found out about your method and already had most of the ingredients! I figured hell I might as well try as many as I can because I too was VERY skeptical given the circumstances! My hair test was this morning at 11:30 am. I started these processes beginning with the det., vinegar, and cleanser method! Then the mud! Lastly your method! So I am HOPING yours if not one of these will work!! I will keep you guys posted! I can't say though for sure which exact one will work because I had already did the det., vinegar, cleanser first, had the hair mud in and then my fiance' printed your method out so I did that IMMEDIATLY follwing suit!!! To the "T"! Anyway thanks for your info I'm sure everyone just as I am are greatly appreciative! I will be able to know the soonest monday june 10th! ![]() P.S. I have (fusion) extension in so the only took hair from my "crown" and was only about five inches long! I'm a female and I'm 20 years old! Quote:
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YaHookan
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Peroxide / Bleach / Aloe Shampoo method
Idavisa,
I had some time today to do some further research. First, I am finding more risks and dangers of using bleach and hydrogen peroxide. They are very dangerous to mess around with. That said, I have found both a reason to be doubtful, and a reason to be hopeful, regarding the effectiveness of your method: REASON TO BE DOUBTFUL: According to Wikipedia's article for hydrogen peroxide: NaOCl + H2O2 → O2 + NaCl + H2O In other words, household bleach (sodium hypochlorite or NaOCl) plus hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) react to form oxygen bubbles (which quickly escape into the environment) and salt water. There was a scientific paper published years ago which analyzed the effects of various treatments on the toxins found in hair. It looked at alkaline wave solutions, hair bleaching, dandruff shampoo, artificial sweat, etc., etc., and how they effected drug levels in the hair. As a proxy for artificial sweat, they used salt water! They found that it had very little effect on reducing the drug concentrations in hair - even after 20 hours! (Welch, M.J., Sniegoski, L.T., Allgood, Ch., and Habram, M., Hair Analysis For Drugs of Abuse: Evaluation of Analytical Methods, Environmental Issues, and Development of Reference Materials, J. Anal. Toxicology, 17, 389, 1993). If the bleach and peroxide react to form salt water, and if salt water has been shown to have little effect, then I am doubtful. REASON TO BE HOPEFUL: The same research cited above (Welch, et al), found that the greatest decrease in cocaine concentration was observed with 30% hydrogen peroxide and an alkaline wave solution. This reduced the drug concentration found in the hair by 80% to 95%. Bleach is an alkaline (base/basic) solution, so PERHAPS it would act on the hair in a manner similar to the alkaline wave solution (???) -- assuming that it isnt first converted into saltwater??? And would the concentrated hydrogen peroxide poison you or burn you? I am working on getting a complete copy of the Welch paper. It may take weeks to get it. If successful, I will provide more details then. There is a lot of uncertainty surrounding all of this. After looking at a half-dozen research papers, you often end up with more questions than you started with. Some treatments (such as propylene glycol) are rumored to eliminate THC and its metabolites, but not necessarily other drugs. Organic solvents and certain diluted acids are used by some testing labs to extract drugs/metabolites from hair overnight, but at temperatures that would burn you within seconds if the hair was still attached to your head. Maybe it would also work at tolerable temperatures -- or maybe it wouldnt. Who knows? Would the diluted acid burn your skin? Not sure. Would the chemicals poison you? Who knows? But the greatness of the internet is that we can learn from each other. Ideally, we would someday have two sets of hair tests done... the same people before and after the Idavisa method... to test its effectiveness. Rob |
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YaHookan
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Help...........
So I was offered a job at a horse track and I was told that they do hair tests.
I am a VERY casual smoker. I have smoked 6 times tops in the last 3 months. And each time, with the exception of once, I only took 2-3 hits. The last time which was going on 2 weeks ago, I shared a joint with 2 other people. I think I will be having my test next week sometime. I am a 31 yr old female. I am 160 lbs, brown hair on bottom, bleached and redyed light blonde on top. My roots are about 1/2 inch long with natural color. My metabolism is fairly fast. I just passed a random saliva test at my current job last week and I know I would pass a piss test. My hair is pretty damaged from having it bleached twice and dyed. And I blowdry and straighten every day. Any thoughts, suggestions would be wonderful. Thank you in advance |
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YaHookan
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To Thejenius77
Hi. I am not an expert by any means (yet). But for what it's worth, I would bleach and redye. Then I would bleach and redye again (on a different day?). Some people might recommend a third cycle of bleach/redye if you were a heavy user. Each cycle MAY get rid of 60% or more of the drugs and metabolites that existed immediately prior to that cycle (???). Your goal is to get below the detection threshold. I assume that you have metabolites in your hairs roots. Make sure that the redye formula has both hydrogen peroxide and ammonia. It goes without saying, you also want as much clean-time as possible prior to your test, so I wouldn't smoke any more until you get the test results back. You want your blood to be nice and clean (so that new hair grows clean) and your sweat and oils to be clean (so that it doesn't get incorporated into your hair in your pores or externally). I wouldn't even hang around people who are using drugs until you get your results back, and are sure you wont need a retest.
Also, some studies would imply that the previously bleached portions of your hair may be more susceptable than usual to absorbing external contamination, such as the smoke you have encountered since your bleachings. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I would also buy a new hairbrush, wash all of your towels, and wash your pillow cases, etc. You want EVERYTHING that touches your hair to be clean once you start the treatments. External contamination can be a real problem, even though the labs claim that they wash-off all external contaminnation. I think I saw a study where drug-free hair absorbed drug metabolites from contaminated sweat. The drugs became incorporated into the hair to such an extent that some of it remained in the hair even after it was supposedly decontaminated. (You could argue that external contamination from drug smoke is chemically different from the metabolites produced by your liver when the drug is in your system, and that therefore the lab could differentiate external contamination from your own usage, but I wouldn't take a chance.) Maybe this is overkill, but if you can handle it and you understand the risks of working with these chemicals, I would go for two cycles of bleach and redye. There are other potential methods too (such as Idavisa's) which I am still researching and trying to understand. Rob |
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YaHookan
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Ok, so I just went in for my hair test today, and it was done by psychemedics (or however it's spelled). I had, in the past 90 days, done cocaine once (~1.5g), heroin once, ecstasy approximately 3 times and xanax about 10x. Prior to the test, I followed this procedure:
48 hours before test - Macujo method once 24 hours before test - Macujo method once, Idavisa method with 2 cycles at low concentration, without Zydot 4 hours before test - Macujo method once, Idavisa method with 2 cycles at high concentration, with Zydot, all instructions followed completely. I wanted to do that Macujo method more often, but it burned my scalp so bad that I couldn't bring myself to do it again. I seriously have burns all down the back of my neck. I should also have you know that the shampoo I have been using regularly contains Propalyne Glycol. I should also have you know that when I was using Idavisa's method, I used an organic aloe shampoo that was not the one he mentioned. I am male, 6'2, 160 lbs, fast metabolism, with short, very fine hair (~1.5 inches all around). Also know that they took hair from the back of my head. I should know within a couple days what the results are. I will post here. |
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