powdered urine test kit - test clear - gets too hot

abcd · 02-01-2008, 05:42 PM

I ordered the urine powder test kit from test clear. I'm practicing before going to my test. I've tested 3 times now, and it gets too hot.

It takes 30 min. to heat up and right then it's at the perfect temperature. I'm trying to test with a 1 hr. time frame. so i have enough time to get to the testing center, any traffic might be on the way, and a waiting time. I think an hour would be good test with.

I crotched it for every test, in the last test I put in between a 2nd layer of boxers so that there's no skin contact, maybe keep the temperatures down. At an hour, the temps were still too hot. Around 103 - 106 degress, I checked with a digital thermometer.

I'm testing again and this time I'm keeping it in my pocket, and planning on crotching it right when I get to the test center and give it a 15 min. time frame. and I'll see how temperatures are within those 15 min.

I have a rubber band around the heater, should I remove the rubber band? Only reason I have the rubber band is since the sides dont stick to the vial. I'm thinking maybe this will keep the temperatures optimal.

I tried blowing on it to keep the temps. down but it's not working, and I'd rather not do that since I'm worried somebody might hear me.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

abcd · 02-01-2008, 06:31 PM

After 15 min., I checked the temp. was too high, the temp. strip couldn't read it, it was about 100 degrees. I was able to cool it down by blowing on it but it took a few minutes. After trying the first cool down it was at 99.9, spent a couple more minutes and it went down to 96.6.

Should I just crotch it and leave for the clinic right away and try to time myself to get there right at 30 min., and hope there isn't a wait? So I don't have to cool it down, that's worrying me the most, since they might here me peel the heater off the vial. They might hear me blowing, what if they think I'm taking too much time?

Or is it safer to make sure the temp are high and just spend the extra minutes to cool down? Is taking several minutes in there suspicious? I can get it cooled down in about 6 minutes I think. Less than 10 minutes, I think that's how much time they give you.

abcd · 02-03-2008, 04:34 PM

it gets too hot, it just took me 8 min. to get it down to 99.1 degrees. are you supposed to blow into the vial? or just at the side?

for the next practice test I'm going to apply the heater and keep it crotched for an hour and then remove the heater and keep it crotched and check to see how long the temp. stays up. The heater is bringing it to about 106 degrees, I think if I keep it crotched without the heater, body heat should keep it at optimal temperatures. I'll probably have to call the test center and go in when they arent busy. If I can keep the temperatures in the correct range crotched without a heater for an hour then I think I should try it this way instead.

abcd · 02-03-2008, 06:48 PM

well, I tried that method. I kept it heated with a heater and crotched for an hour, after that I removed the heater and croched it for a complete hour, I checked the temperature and it was at 99.1 degrees (checked with digital thermometer).

So, I think I'm going to go with this method, that way I can avoid having to worry anybody hearing me blowing to cool it down, or hearing me remove the heater from the vial and not have to spend much time in there. Test clear advises to not remove the heater until it's time to take the test but, it gets so hot that the digital thermometer cant even read it.

I'm going to crotch it for another 30 min. - 1 hr. just so I have an idea as to how long I can keep it crotched at optimal temperatures.

abcd · 02-03-2008, 07:58 PM

Well I kept it crotched for another hour, that's a total of 2 hrs. crotched without a heater and temps. stayed optimal. At the 2nd hour temps were at 97 degress which I think is safer than 99 degrees but, I'll head out to the testing center after 1 hr., I'm guessing it's going to be about 30 min., as long as I leave with the temps in the correct range then I shouldn't have anything to worry about as my body heat will keep the temp. in the correct range and the temps. aren't going to get any higher.

I hope my testing will help out somebody else.

abcd · 02-04-2008, 01:59 PM

last post of this thread -

I took my test today using my method of heating it for an hour with a heater and keeping it crotched. After 1 hr., removing the heater keep it crotched. I left at 40 min., checked the temp. (didnt use digital thermometer this time, didn't want to open the vial), temp. strip started reading the temp. and was within the correct range.

Got to the test center in about 25 min., had to wait for probably another 10 min. Got to the bathroom, temp. was in the correct range according to the temp. strip, put specimen in vial. Took a piss in the toilet (I made sure to drink fluids, wanted to make sure they know I pissed). The test administrator checked off the temp. was in the correct range!

I was so worried I didnt know which method to use, testclear advised to not remove the heater until it was time to test (I tried to consult with them before I went) but, out of the 6-7 times I tried the test it got too hot with the heater so I wasn't sure what to do. He kept saying he doesnt know why it's getting too hot.

Only thing was that it wasn't very comfortable holding this thing crotched for 2 hrs., and since I drank fluids to make sure I was going to piss I had to piss really bad and had to hold it for a while. If I pass this test, this is the only method I'm going to use from here on out for pre-employment tests. If I know I'm going to fail without it. I've also passed tests with dilution but, those would be more stressful if you don't know for sure you're going to pass. Now that I got the temp. right this time I should have no problem in doing this every time. If for any reason the temp. is not in the correct range when I get to the test center I can always say I can't piss and the synthetic urine is good for 72 hrs., so I could just come back after reheating it.

JonBlaze · 02-11-2008, 08:10 AM

What ever happened with this? Pass? Fail?

abcd · 02-13-2008, 10:21 AM

I passed.

I said in my last post, "the admin checked off the temp. was in the correct range!".

The only thing that can go wrong when using powdered urine as a substitute is the temp.

JonBlaze · 02-14-2008, 05:30 AM

Nice, was one enough? or do you recommend picking up a second. Fuck I should used this instead of diluting, oh well live an learn.

abcd · 02-16-2008, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonBlaze

Nice, was one enough? or do you recommend picking up a second. Fuck I should used this instead of diluting, oh well live an learn.

I'm not sure what you mean, if you are referring to the heater or powdered urine. If you're referring to the heater, you get 1 packet and you can't reuse them. If you want to practice (highly recommended) with water and heaters you can pick up extras from them. If you have a hunting store near or a sports store you can pick them up from there and it'll be cheaper. Just make sure to get the same exact kind. I tried a similiar heater and it didnt work.

If you're referring to the powdered urine, all you need is one. Just practice with water until the day of your test. They give you 50 ml and the required amount is 45 mil.

If you aren't going to be watched I would definately recommend this method rather than dilution, the only thing that can fail you is if the temp. is out of range and after you practice a few times you'll be able to perfect it.

**yungsmoke** · 02-17-2008, 12:22 AM

Yeah, a method of this sort must be practiced. That's the only problem people have with synthetic urine and products of the like, the temperature at the screening.

Congrats on your pass though man. Blaze one up.

**testclear.com** · 02-23-2008, 01:01 AM

Personally this is the first time I have heard of a problem of overheating with our product, but it does sound like the user did everything correctly according to instructions. I personally talked with the user in chat and it seemed that they were having quite a bit of troubling maintaining the temperature for some reason.

Other users that I spoke to since this post was made don't appear to having the same problem, but we will be conducting our own experiments to verify that the temp is consistent which is needed for the product to be successful. It has been my experience that the Powdered Urine Kit works like clockwork as far as the temperature goes.

I will report back once our studies are completed.

JonBlaze · 02-26-2008, 10:40 AM

Word, I'm getting tested THUR so I'll be using this. I'll report back if I have the same issue.

phatkat · 05-01-2008, 09:38 AM

Hello, great testing. Very helpful information. I had a question about TestClear's powdered urine kit, though.

I have read one user of having trouble with the powdered urine clumping when either trying to mix it, or after having it mixed and then letting it set for an extended period of time. (i.e. 1-3 hrs.)

Did you have any trouble with this, or did the powdered urine work without any trouble for you?

I will be using it here in about 6 days and I'm trying to ease my worried mind. Any help is greatly appreciated.

abcd · 05-02-2008, 03:34 PM

No, I didn't have any trouble with the urine clumping or trying to mix it.

The powdered urine kit I used had been sitting in my room for about 6 months.

Just make sure the cap is on tight and shake it really well.

Just practice keeping it heated for enough time for you to take your test, that's the only reason you can fail, or unless somebody sees you with it. I wore a belt and made sure it was secured really well since I was paranoid about it falling out. I was really worried my first time but, it wasn't as bad as I made it out to be.

phatkat · 05-06-2008, 05:41 PM

Thanks for the reply.

phatkat · 05-06-2008, 10:01 PM

I have another important question.

I just did an in-home urine test to see where I stand, and when I pissed in the cup, there were a lot of bubbles. How did you pass off the fake powdered urine mixed with water for real urine if it looked flat? I thought of this a bit late and my test is tomorrow, so hopefully you answer, thanks again for the help.

Valley · 05-13-2008, 12:40 PM

can you mix the powdered urine the day before the test and would it still be viable?

Prophet Saddam · 05-13-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testclear.com

Personally this is the first time I have heard of a problem of overheating with our product, but it does sound like the user did everything correctly according to instructions. I personally talked with the user in chat and it seemed that they were having quite a bit of troubling maintaining the temperature for some reason.

Other users that I spoke to since this post was made don't appear to having the same problem, but we will be conducting our own experiments to verify that the temp is consistent which is needed for the product to be successful. It has been my experience that the Powdered Urine Kit works like clockwork as far as the temperature goes.

I will report back once our studies are completed.

Is the report done?

phatkat · 05-13-2008, 04:19 PM

Mixing the day before is a bad idea, the longer you let powdered mix "settle" the greater the chances of it possibly clumping.

I mixed the powdered urine by shaking it as hard as I could until it mixed well, then applied the heater, and drove about a 15-20min drive to the clinic.

I checked the urine vial right before I entered the clinic and it was at 92 degrees and mixed well, so I left the heater on, verified it was secure, and walked in the clinic and signed in.

They made me wait about 20-30minutes before they took me, and I felt the heater basically maxed out warming my leg pretty damn well. (and this was with 2 layers of boxers on, with the heater/vial between the layers)

I knew it was going to be too warm and I started to get very nervous.

They finally took me back, told me to empty my pockets, and then sent me into a room that didnt even have a real door, it was like a sliding door. I thought for sure they'd hear me unstick and remove the heater/rubberband from the vial, but they didnt. (I was very careful and took my time slowly peeling it back)

I then unscrewed the vial with the heater off, and took very deep breaths, and gently blew into the vial (on the liquid) for as long as I could, then checked the temp on the side, then repeated this procedure for about 2-4min. After that time, the temp lowered to 100, then 99, then 98, then 97.5 and it was perfect.

I submitted it, pissed in the toilet (because they tell you not to flush to see if you urinated or not), and then shook the cup of urine gently to create mild bubbles as if I just pissed in it and not pored a liquid that was settled.

I submitted it to the clerk, and everything was cool.

Biggest things to remember are that if its too hot, opening the vial and blowing on the liquid softly for 20-30sec at a time lowers the temp pretty quickly, so I'd rather it be too hot then take the heater off and risk them making you wait for 30-45 min and having it cool down on you. Everyone's body heat is diff. I also did multiple tests of my own to determine how long I could keep it heated before it over-heated etc, with spare heaters I ordered and that helped me a bit, but in the end I just left it on and went in there and lowered the temp myself. I passed and I suggest this method to anyone that has the balls to try it. It's scary, but it worked for me. KEEP YOUR COOL.

Hope this helps, peace all.

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abcd YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	powdered urine test kit - test clear - gets too hot I ordered the urine powder test kit from test clear. I'm practicing before going to my test. I've tested 3 times now, and it gets too hot. It takes 30 min. to heat up and right then it's at the perfect temperature. I'm trying to test with a 1 hr. time frame. so i have enough time to get to the testing center, any traffic might be on the way, and a waiting time. I think an hour would be good test with. I crotched it for every test, in the last test I put in between a 2nd layer of boxers so that there's no skin contact, maybe keep the temperatures down. At an hour, the temps were still too hot. Around 103 - 106 degress, I checked with a digital thermometer. I'm testing again and this time I'm keeping it in my pocket, and planning on crotching it right when I get to the test center and give it a 15 min. time frame. and I'll see how temperatures are within those 15 min. I have a rubber band around the heater, should I remove the rubber band? Only reason I have the rubber band is since the sides dont stick to the vial. I'm thinking maybe this will keep the temperatures optimal. I tried blowing on it to keep the temps. down but it's not working, and I'd rather not do that since I'm worried somebody might hear me. Any suggestions? Thanks

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02-01-2008, 06:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
abcd YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	After 15 min., I checked the temp. was too high, the temp. strip couldn't read it, it was about 100 degrees. I was able to cool it down by blowing on it but it took a few minutes. After trying the first cool down it was at 99.9, spent a couple more minutes and it went down to 96.6. Should I just crotch it and leave for the clinic right away and try to time myself to get there right at 30 min., and hope there isn't a wait? So I don't have to cool it down, that's worrying me the most, since they might here me peel the heater off the vial. They might hear me blowing, what if they think I'm taking too much time? Or is it safer to make sure the temp are high and just spend the extra minutes to cool down? Is taking several minutes in there suspicious? I can get it cooled down in about 6 minutes I think. Less than 10 minutes, I think that's how much time they give you.

02-03-2008, 04:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
abcd YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	it gets too hot, it just took me 8 min. to get it down to 99.1 degrees. are you supposed to blow into the vial? or just at the side? for the next practice test I'm going to apply the heater and keep it crotched for an hour and then remove the heater and keep it crotched and check to see how long the temp. stays up. The heater is bringing it to about 106 degrees, I think if I keep it crotched without the heater, body heat should keep it at optimal temperatures. I'll probably have to call the test center and go in when they arent busy. If I can keep the temperatures in the correct range crotched without a heater for an hour then I think I should try it this way instead.

02-03-2008, 06:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
abcd YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well, I tried that method. I kept it heated with a heater and crotched for an hour, after that I removed the heater and croched it for a complete hour, I checked the temperature and it was at 99.1 degrees (checked with digital thermometer). So, I think I'm going to go with this method, that way I can avoid having to worry anybody hearing me blowing to cool it down, or hearing me remove the heater from the vial and not have to spend much time in there. Test clear advises to not remove the heater until it's time to take the test but, it gets so hot that the digital thermometer cant even read it. I'm going to crotch it for another 30 min. - 1 hr. just so I have an idea as to how long I can keep it crotched at optimal temperatures.

02-03-2008, 07:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
abcd YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well I kept it crotched for another hour, that's a total of 2 hrs. crotched without a heater and temps. stayed optimal. At the 2nd hour temps were at 97 degress which I think is safer than 99 degrees but, I'll head out to the testing center after 1 hr., I'm guessing it's going to be about 30 min., as long as I leave with the temps in the correct range then I shouldn't have anything to worry about as my body heat will keep the temp. in the correct range and the temps. aren't going to get any higher. I hope my testing will help out somebody else.

02-04-2008, 01:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
abcd YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	last post of this thread - I took my test today using my method of heating it for an hour with a heater and keeping it crotched. After 1 hr., removing the heater keep it crotched. I left at 40 min., checked the temp. (didnt use digital thermometer this time, didn't want to open the vial), temp. strip started reading the temp. and was within the correct range. Got to the test center in about 25 min., had to wait for probably another 10 min. Got to the bathroom, temp. was in the correct range according to the temp. strip, put specimen in vial. Took a piss in the toilet (I made sure to drink fluids, wanted to make sure they know I pissed). The test administrator checked off the temp. was in the correct range! I was so worried I didnt know which method to use, testclear advised to not remove the heater until it was time to test (I tried to consult with them before I went) but, out of the 6-7 times I tried the test it got too hot with the heater so I wasn't sure what to do. He kept saying he doesnt know why it's getting too hot. Only thing was that it wasn't very comfortable holding this thing crotched for 2 hrs., and since I drank fluids to make sure I was going to piss I had to piss really bad and had to hold it for a while. If I pass this test, this is the only method I'm going to use from here on out for pre-employment tests. If I know I'm going to fail without it. I've also passed tests with dilution but, those would be more stressful if you don't know for sure you're going to pass. Now that I got the temp. right this time I should have no problem in doing this every time. If for any reason the temp. is not in the correct range when I get to the test center I can always say I can't piss and the synthetic urine is good for 72 hrs., so I could just come back after reheating it.

02-11-2008, 08:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
JonBlaze YaHookan Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	What ever happened with this? Pass? Fail?

02-13-2008, 10:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
abcd YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I passed. I said in my last post, "the admin checked off the temp. was in the correct range!". The only thing that can go wrong when using powdered urine as a substitute is the temp.

02-14-2008, 05:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
JonBlaze YaHookan Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Nice, was one enough? or do you recommend picking up a second. Fuck I should used this instead of diluting, oh well live an learn.

02-26-2008, 10:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
JonBlaze YaHookan Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Word, I'm getting tested THUR so I'll be using this. I'll report back if I have the same issue.

05-01-2008, 09:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
phatkat YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Hello, great testing. Very helpful information. I had a question about TestClear's powdered urine kit, though. I have read one user of having trouble with the powdered urine clumping when either trying to mix it, or after having it mixed and then letting it set for an extended period of time. (i.e. 1-3 hrs.) Did you have any trouble with this, or did the powdered urine work without any trouble for you? I will be using it here in about 6 days and I'm trying to ease my worried mind. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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05-02-2008, 03:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
abcd YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No, I didn't have any trouble with the urine clumping or trying to mix it. The powdered urine kit I used had been sitting in my room for about 6 months. Just make sure the cap is on tight and shake it really well. Just practice keeping it heated for enough time for you to take your test, that's the only reason you can fail, or unless somebody sees you with it. I wore a belt and made sure it was secured really well since I was paranoid about it falling out. I was really worried my first time but, it wasn't as bad as I made it out to be.

05-06-2008, 05:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
phatkat YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Thanks for the reply.

05-06-2008, 10:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
phatkat YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I have another important question. I just did an in-home urine test to see where I stand, and when I pissed in the cup, there were a lot of bubbles. How did you pass off the fake powdered urine mixed with water for real urine if it looked flat? I thought of this a bit late and my test is tomorrow, so hopefully you answer, thanks again for the help.

05-13-2008, 12:40 PM	#18 (permalink)
Valley YaHookan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	can you mix the powdered urine the day before the test and would it still be viable?

05-13-2008, 04:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
phatkat YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Mixing the day before is a bad idea, the longer you let powdered mix "settle" the greater the chances of it possibly clumping. I mixed the powdered urine by shaking it as hard as I could until it mixed well, then applied the heater, and drove about a 15-20min drive to the clinic. I checked the urine vial right before I entered the clinic and it was at 92 degrees and mixed well, so I left the heater on, verified it was secure, and walked in the clinic and signed in. They made me wait about 20-30minutes before they took me, and I felt the heater basically maxed out warming my leg pretty damn well. (and this was with 2 layers of boxers on, with the heater/vial between the layers) I knew it was going to be too warm and I started to get very nervous. They finally took me back, told me to empty my pockets, and then sent me into a room that didnt even have a real door, it was like a sliding door. I thought for sure they'd hear me unstick and remove the heater/rubberband from the vial, but they didnt. (I was very careful and took my time slowly peeling it back) I then unscrewed the vial with the heater off, and took very deep breaths, and gently blew into the vial (on the liquid) for as long as I could, then checked the temp on the side, then repeated this procedure for about 2-4min. After that time, the temp lowered to 100, then 99, then 98, then 97.5 and it was perfect. I submitted it, pissed in the toilet (because they tell you not to flush to see if you urinated or not), and then shook the cup of urine gently to create mild bubbles as if I just pissed in it and not pored a liquid that was settled. I submitted it to the clerk, and everything was cool. Biggest things to remember are that if its too hot, opening the vial and blowing on the liquid softly for 20-30sec at a time lowers the temp pretty quickly, so I'd rather it be too hot then take the heater off and risk them making you wait for 30-45 min and having it cool down on you. Everyone's body heat is diff. I also did multiple tests of my own to determine how long I could keep it heated before it over-heated etc, with spare heaters I ordered and that helped me a bit, but in the end I just left it on and went in there and lowered the temp myself. I passed and I suggest this method to anyone that has the balls to try it. It's scary, but it worked for me. KEEP YOUR COOL. Hope this helps, peace all.