Different painkillers

[bman3725]

Oxycotin and Lortab is my main concern.
If i have taken these two will they show up as the same? are the both in the Opaites category? In other words i have a script for the Lortab but not the oxycotin so what will be the results will they show up as the same?

Thanks

B

[Mafoo]

lortab and oxy are both opiates so they should both have the same metabolites and test the same.

id like to get some other points of view before i tell you youll pass

[duts]

As an ex-oxycodone addict who used to have a 120+ mg a day habit and with the constant increases in OxyContin diversion and abuse I can say with certainty they now test for opiates + oxycodone. As in if you shoot heroin and pop perc's or in your case Lortab/Vicodin and Oxycontin you will test positive for opiates and then also for oxycodone. So you will not be good with just a hydrocodone script.

I know I'll sound like a anti-drug abuse broken record but you should try to stop now if it hasn't got its nails in you yet. The pain you'll cause your friends, family, and most importantly yourself is not worth it. I didn't believe that myself when I was blowing line after line but now being on the other side after rehab I see how true that sentiment really is.

[scottishbastard]

Nah dude. We need more broken records like you. The ones we dont need are the ones who tell you not to do drugs that have never even done them or seen the hell it causes. I broke my hand when I was 15 and was prescribed Vicodin and darvon. Then I got in another fight while my hand was in the cast and rebroke the hand. They had to then wait for it to heal, break it again and put in a metal bar. In the hospital I was given morphine and another script for 200 vicodin. I had already messed around a few times with snorting heroin, but after I ran out of vicodin it got really bad. I started snorting H and coke together. Then my dad got cancer and so there were always tons of Norco (10mg vicodin) around. I was taking between 8 and 16 of these a day and drinking Jack daniels to strengthen them. Then I started buying Oxycodone and Ms-Contin (morphine) off the streets. I was dealing weed and pills at the time so I also had a lot of Lortab and vics around. I was also prescribed flurazapam and triazolam for certain aspects of Bipolar I like panic attacks and insomnia.
Then I moved to Hollywood, my dad died, and my Norco supply was gone. Between grieving and being hooked on pills I couldnt stop then. I started buying Oxy and MS contin again but couldnt afford these damn $30 pills (I know it was a rip, but thats how much most people charge in Hollywood). So one day my hookup was like "You asked about heroin, and I found somebody". That's when it got bad. I started buying balloons which were 12 for $50 at the time (black tar). I smoked it for a long ass time but eventually started doing IM shots. I then found a new hookup, some guy from the City Terrace branch of the Mexican Mafia. He had the new shit in town "Gunpowder" a.k.a. "brown stone" which is basically refined Mexican heroin...similar to cuban brown powder. I started slamming into the vein at that point, and also started smoking a lot more coke, and taking tons of Clonopin and Xanax bars.
Then my girlfriend got into it too which was the lowest point ever. I also got a bad case of epiditymitis (basically a testicle infection) which hurt like hell. We got in about 8 car accidents, two hit and runs, a few speeding tickets, we ran from the cops when they tried to pull us over for speeding, we then crashed my mom's car twice, she got two DUI's and spent two nights in jail (two times in one week!). We then got on the methadone program again (now keep in mind I had been on and off the program for about 2 years, and most of the time I had a heroin-methadone habit since I rarely stopped using H when I was on the program).
It all ended when my girlfriend overdosed on xanax, codeine and somas and was in the ICU unit unconsious for two weeks. She woke up one day in the middle and couldn't talk right, she was drooling all over the place, couldnt control her muscles, and was having seizures and couldnt breath. They say it was complications from aspiration (swallowing puke/spit), pnuemonia (from the aspiration), and hitting her head. Her parents wouldnt let me visit her in the hospital either because obviously they were pissed as hell. I couldnt even call and find out info. I didn't know if she was dead or alive for two full weeks. And another shitty part is that she's a beautiful little Irish girl and she overdosed on st. Patrick's day.
This was the absolute end...After 4 years of heroin addiction and more than 8 years of overall opiate addiction, going in and out of methadone etc. I locked myself in my mom's mountain house and went cold turkey.
Six days of not sleeping, and three weeks of sweating, insomnia, muscle pain etc. To make it worse I have Bipolar I plus Psychosis, so the withdrawals kept triggering psychotic breaks. I had to go to a hospital one day because I kept hearing my mom calling my name (which she wasnt) and thought the radio was playing through the broken t.v. in my room (Bill Handle haha).
Then about another month or two of sweating a lot, digestive problems, depression, anxiety, insomnia, and feelings of extreme disillusion with life. But I did it. And now my motto is "I'll never touch heroin again, because if I get on it again I won't get back off." There's no way in hell I would ever detox again. It is literally beyond any experience that you can explain to people. It is the absolute opposite of how opiates make you feel. Mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually...I was wrecked.

I won't tell anyone what to do, but the fact is it took me 5 and a half years to go from fucking with opiates, to taking them semi regularly, to taking them weekly, to having a minor habit, to having a major habit, to becoming a junkie, to ruining my life and almost losing the love of my life. There's no middle ground with opiates. They are the most addictive drug on earth in my opinion. Leave em for the terminally ill and gunshot victims hahaha.

[scottishbastard]

Oh and I forgot to answer the question. Different places use different drug tests. For instance, most jobs just test for general opiates. This covers everything from heroin, to oxycontin, to vicodin, to methadone and so on. But when I was taking drug tests for my methadone program they used a test to look for methadone (to make sure you were taking it and not selling it), morphine (which covers morphine and it's derivative - Heroin), codeine, and then other semi synthetic opiates like hydrocodone/vicodin/lortab etc. Morphine, codeine, and buprenorphin or the three active chemicals in opium and they require seperate tests as far as I know.

So the answer is, if it's for a job I would imagine that you will just test positive for opiates not any specific type. But there's a chance I'm wrong. I just know that the standard drug test used for jobs tests usually tests for Thc, opiates, cocaine, amphetamines, and sometimes even alcohol. The more comprehensive ones test for individual types of amphetamines and opiates, so they can tell exactly what youre abusing and if your taking your methadone.

Hope this helps. If have any other opiate questions PM me. And good luck not wrecking your life with this poison. Peace.

[duts]

My addiction didn't get as deep as yours since I couldn't bring myself to H, but through my constant deals I easily fed my daily habit for a real long time. I didn't even mention my horrible benzo addiction when I got prescribed the xanax/zoloft cocktail for anxiety and depression since that was a whole other hell.

If you take anything from this I just hope it is that you can see how easily it gets out of control. Because it will before you even realize. And I don't care how strong you THINK you are, because you are not stronger then them. I smoked cigarettes for a year and quit cold turkey and was fine. I went through alcohol binges and never got hooked. Based on what my friends have told me 40mg of intranasal oxycodone isn't much different then mainlining heroin minus the initial rush, so I just hope you realize how powerful what your playing with is.

[scottishbastard]

In many cases Oxycontin is stronger than street heroin, unless you're buying near pure heroin. The worst thing is mainlining methadone. It's basically a 50/50 chance of dropping dead.

And no just because you didnt try heroin doesnt mean your addiction was any less intense. A guy I knew went from being a well known member of the mormon church to being a homeless Ketamine addict...And ketamines not even physically addictive! Some of the biggest addicts I've seen were addicts of prescription meds. Often ones they ACTUALLY had prescriptions to.

And yeah...with opiates it's not a question of "will" you get addicted...it's "when" you get addicted.

[duts]

And yeah...with opiates it's not a question of "will" you get addicted...it's "when" you get addicted.

That's the best way to sum up opiates in 1 sentence.

It's nice to know atleast someone else here has been through what I have so I feel alittle better about myself. It happened a while ago but I used to be really hard on myself about it because it made me feel like such a failure. But now whenever I see how far I've and others around me have came since then it makes me feel good about the choice I made to get myself help.

I do feel as though it will stick with me forever. I was smoking and decided to pop a friends adderall since I'm getting that prescribed soon and I took another today at work and got wired and already I'm getting the old mental calculator seeing how I could work adderall into my weekly paycheck. The scary part is I didn't even realize how I was doing that until after and I was taken aback and told my friend like holey shit I just went through my old ways of figuring out how many pills I can get this week and how much more I can get if I skimp on paying some things today and tomorrow. I can't really put it into words since I'm baked, drunk, crashed from the adderall, ambien'd, and just all around tired haha.

[subhaikav]

Oxycontin and Lortab are both opiates, so on a standard dip-stick test they will show up as the same thing. However, if they send the test for further testing the two can be differentiated easily.

[bman3725]

im currently attempting to kick this habit and i need opinions!!