![]() |
|
|||||||
| Farmers Lab Advanced Theories and Techniques - Got a few grows under your belt and want to discuss more advanced theories and techniques? Discuss these matters here. |
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Rate Thread | Display Modes |
|
|
#1 (permalink) |
|
Old School
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ny
Posts: 1,308
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
the under standing of speice imprinting
i know welcome back ... i would like to talk about speice imprinting from piont A on ward .. . this doctrain thoery reflects my under standing of speice imprinting within the speice of cannabis , in a related sequence of the human speice ,...
it is my under standing that as is the human speice a peak of living structure as is the cannabis the refelction of a peak in plant speice... we have failed to under stand the starting point A of this speiec and . this has reflected our lack of a tatol under standing of plant imprinting from piont A onward ... we see the basic yet where do they start and end ... this is the question few find them selfs able to answer .. so here is my thoery as to how these imprintings take place and why ... so what is piont A . the harvesting piont of viable seed... under standing that seeds are part of a genetic growth loop that relates to it self threw out the speice life cycle, and beyond as its plant fails and become its own fertilization compost of urea nitrogens along with othe boi chem ... the piont A is yet a place on the genetic life cycle that we can define as a starting piont to build a under standing of the sequences of imprinting that talk place from beyond the seed structure to the plants genders and production of new seed ... now we find our selfs asking if this is piont A and we under stand we have a seedling fetus what can the postioning of the fetus tell us and what part dose this postioning play in the imprinting of the seedling fetus ...to make things easy i will refer to the seedling fetus as the SF from this piont on .. we find the SF fully developed and awaiting germanation , so if this is the case the imprinting has most likely already taken place in part before this piont ... if this is the case we must look at the span of development before piont A ...what takes polace when the genders produce the seed and what takes place withing the seed...we know genders place a even balanceing act in a speices . we often beleive that because a female gender may out number the male gender of off spring that the genders are uneven to promote breeding between the gender ratio ,, IMHO this is misleeding ,and is not what is takeing place at all .. the un even numbers between gender off spring reflect the ratio of genetic purityof the speice strain base and not that of the speice it self .. let me explan .. say a set of off spring has 25 males and 35 females ... it dose not mean the females are the dominant gender , if fact it has little to do with that at all ... the purity rates of the females is lower then the male thus the numbers do not reflect the ablities of the off spring to carry on the strain base ... so even if the number of females is higher then that of the male the males reflect and stronger strain imprinting ...thus gender ratio has little meaning to the over all strain base qualities . yet do in many ways effect the strain base in mass or set groups as what we often see in the common growing environments ... now we must ask our selfs if this is the case and we were leed to beleive something that is not the case at all then what can we learn from the under stand of this new thoery and how it reflects the sequences of this speice and other speices with in creation it self ... i must take a brake ,and please do not reply at this piont i will take question after the doctrain is complete .. thank you ...
__________________
yahooka's rainman! Last edited by tazz11; 05-17-2008 at 09:46 AM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2 (permalink) |
|
Old School
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ny
Posts: 1,308
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
so now what we beleived was setting the quality of the imprinting is not the case at all this explans the reason for the failing genetic gene pool in the speice .. we as grower as have selected a imbalance as our goal and thus the speice is reflecting the imbalance even at the piont of conditioning the strain base to a unstablized gender reflection with in the strain base so baddly out of control it now shows in the speice at all levels ...
yet if we truely under stand the Piont A and what it means we can still hopefully correct what we have done to this speice , and we may even under stand and learn something about the human speice at the same time ... it is not the goal to regress the cannabis strain to the piont of hemp . yet if we are to truely under stand this new thoery of imprinting as a focus piont A and with a under standing that piont A is not a fixed piont it is a ever growing place in the ever changeing cycle of this speice and each strain base within this speice has this piont A .. it may not be the same day or and time yet .. each strain base within the speices has this Piont A and we can use it to under stand how the over all mass reacts to the cycle and enivronments as well as our conditioning of the strains effect the gender balances within the grow and the strain and mass . these things effect the speice as a whole ... say a batch of seed produces the 25 males and 35 females stated . the males have a rateing of say 60% purity and the females have a 45% purity .. , now before you become confused i well explan how this works , you are most likely thinking how can there be 60% and 45 % is that not more then 100% yes , why do you ask ... the female mother that made the seed in the frist place was not a balanced stablized gender with in its off spring .. thus it has reflected the imbalnce to the breeding of this seed..... thus what should be a even ratio in purities is not takeing place in this condition ... thus we may have a strong male from the over spring but it would be balanced with a female of 40% purities and not the selected 45 % purities of the mated female in this case .. thus the imbalnce becomes part of the new seed and well be reflected in the seedlings of the batch of seed ..... question 1, i ask you , if you get a batch of seed and you get 5 males and 5 females .. is that strain balnced ...? the answer is...No ... how do we know ... the number of females verses males dose not reflect the purities it reflects the mateable genders in ratio not purities ... thus if this strain was a balanced strain base it most likely would reflect a ratio of more females then males , this is a push pull effect between genders vs ratio of numbers .. the out come become a balanceing facter in the strain ,mass and speice ... so we now look back at the piont A ...can we define the off spring by the number of seeds vs their ratio of genders they reflect when they show their genders ... if so why ...? No , in fact we only can define the purities of the genders by ratio not by the numbers of a given set of off spring , this is why the viger of F1 is reflected , in strain bases that have no balnce between them when two diffrent strain bases mate , why you ask . this reflects the two diffrent strain bases vs two stable strain bases, mainly IBL strain bases ... this is reflecting the truth of the theory that two IBL strain bases that are mated for the frist time reflect a even balance in their own strain base and this is the true reason why F1 viger is most often noticeable in frist time mateings of two diffrent IBLs.. and this is the reason why the Piont A become a balanceing under standing in how strain bases reflect their imprinting , so even if the IBL dose not become its own fertilizers . it dose reflect a balanced conditioning to its environments and this conditioning is reflected in a stablized gender ratio in trun becomeing the balanceing facter of the purites of the gender within the strain base from that basic under standing we can now see the importence of piont A .. even it if there is no set piont .. the under standing of piont A reflects a sequence of gender stablization that when under stood in this new thoery defines the stablization of the the whole speice it self as well as the over all gene pool ... by defineing a set piont and calling it piont A it gives us a refence piont to under stand the imprinting that is takeing place we can not see .. yet the basics for a under standing can be given new insight , do you want to go around and around all your life or would you like to find a way to under stand the complex balances that make upo the speice and the strain bases within the masses ... it all starts with saying this is piont A ....with in a never ending cycle
__________________
yahooka's rainman! Last edited by tazz11; 05-17-2008 at 05:38 AM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#3 (permalink) |
|
Old School
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ny
Posts: 1,308
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
now we have reach the stage of genetic imprinting in the seed . we under stand we have a seedling fetus do we also under stand the fetus ebryo sac and its roll in the developement of the gender and seedling it holds ...
as the fetus seedling grows in the ebryo stage it is conditioned to the saps of the ebryo sac the genetic imprinting of its mother and father , yet under stand the effects of environment are allways part of the cycle that conditions the seedling even before it germanates beyond its given embryo stage ,, here the fetus seedling is imprinting to a amont of embroyo sac fluid wish is at the same time effected by the over all environments that are takeing place out side of the seeds shell .. thus the effects of how a seed is stored and under what conditions take place and how long the seed is stored can and dose effect the balance and purities and qualities of the off spring , this in change , may also effect gender ratio ... the piont being ,if you store the seeds at a lower temp . more males well germanate . not because there were more males in the balance of the genders . but because the females seed may not germanate in their full numbers . thus this effects the ratio between the genders of the stored strain base ... as a seed is stored the air drys the outer shell thus the yet undefind gender must fight harder to free it self thus male fetus have a better odds then those of female gender ... under stand as the seed shell drys , so dose the embryo sac fluids and after the fluids reach a given level the seedling no longer has the fluid to feed from that gives it the powers to brake free of its shell .. .. if we are to say a given piont of development as in this case of piont A , defines the of developement were gender is effected by our own action even if we fail to see it frist hand ... to under stand this theory ... piont A become the "now and . a focus piont in a moveing cycle of growth and definement ... we are so often draw to under stand the goal we fail to under stand the path that takes us there ... even a piont A that fails to reflect any frist hand cause that could change the qualities of our goal in fact may hold the very answers we are looking for ...
__________________
yahooka's rainman! |
|
|
|
|
|
#4 (permalink) |
|
Old School
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ny
Posts: 1,308
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
now we define can this new thoery help your grow or help you define your strain .. yes
why because you must under stand the strain you buy is not conditioned to your conditions ...your environments are totally diffrent in most chases ... this could effect the seeds before you even germanate them .. makes you wonder dont it ...? by now you must be asking why not start this piont A from the time the seedling frist shows ... not all seedlings grow at the same rates , yet the seedling fetus . is still shareing the imprinting given to it by the mother and father and not as much so as the environments of its new home .. one is a stage we can not control the other is beyond our controll , yet in under standing the piont A in the one we can not control definds the over cycle and by under standing the true cycle we defind what is controlling what we can not see for our selfs ... we can not judge the balance of genders within a strain base by the ratio of its genders within its off spring ,yet we try to defind the 5th genaration as a stabliziation level to look for .. yet as i have pionted out this is a faults and misleeding reflection of stablizition within a strain base and its for comeing mates .. this is to piont out that when mateing two IBLs dose not cause better stablizition in the for said off spring , viger yes not stablizition ... we find our selfs looking for the vigerous strain bases yet we our selfs our destoring the over balance within the genetic gene pool by doing so ...piont A thoery is telling us why .... my piont is with this theory you can not possable control the purities of the female genders selected from a unbalanced strain base and exspect it to become balanced by conditioning it to a evironment and hope it well become a stablizied IBL.. even if you do stablize the strain you have a inbalance between purities to any other strain it comes in contact with .. thus the mateing of this strain takes these traids with it into the off spring ... thus you are mateing unstabliztion ,you are breeding facters that cause unstabilizition between the genders and the balance between the purities of the genders them selfs ... let alone the new strain bases you try to mate them with ... we learn the conditions of environments must remain the same for each strain base and over a long time span .. many generations and any strain base must be conditioned to your evironments before mateing takes place and mateings should be cubed ways to stablize the off spring viger effects within both genders , ... what this means is one strain base . male A to female b . ,female B to male a,,,....this = one genrational level ... the reason is because you wont see the imbalance in the off spring on tell the off spring are mated ... IMHO the theory pionts out why IBL strain bases show viger better with two diffrent IBL's then a given IBl and its off spring ...this goes to say that within a IBL and its off spring the unbalanced traid remain unbalanced in purites even if the genders become stablizied ....in ratio ... so if you see 25 males and 25 females it dose not mean the genders are stablized .. in fact it is misleeding you from defineing true stablization within your strain bases ... just because you dont see it in that generation dose not mean it is not there ... the piont is ...piont A shows us the imbalance causes a unstablization facter that dose not show up in those strain bases untell they are mated out side of those strains makeing anyone who trys to mate those strains with their own makeing the stablization worse then it was .... prove my piont .. did you get strain that had great viger only to mate it and the off spring were nothing great ... how about you get some great plants only to get a punsh of herm when you mate the strain to another strain base , not only do you not get the off spring strain base you wanted but you risk contamnation of your over all grow and breeding op. i showed the level of urea nitrogens effected the stain stablization yet the embryo sac fluids do the same thing within the seed shell from all the time the seed is developeing and when that seed is being stored and how long it is stored and in what conditions it is stored in ... and then what conditions the seed is germanated in ... ..
__________________
yahooka's rainman! Last edited by tazz11; 05-16-2008 at 08:28 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#5 (permalink) |
|
Old School
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ny
Posts: 1,308
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
we find our selfs asking our selfs what the main reasons why imprinting plays a part in speice and how they develope .
1. is genetic imprinting from the mother & father even in cloned generations . 2. is environmental imprinting and the cycles of the strain base. 3. is selective imprinting by presonal selection these are the 3 levels of imprinting that take place in any plant ogf any strain base . there is a reason i listed 1. frist in that manner .. clone generations can be effects buy more then one level of imprinting .. thus when we select a clone vs seed or mateable mother & father and how and when we emove the strain from its cycle of developement... we often isolate the selected clone traits but in doing so we isolate the genetic traits as well as unseen selected imprinting that takes place before we have control of the cloned genetic . thus we define all traids at t6hat piont of cloneing as well as unwanted traits hiden within the clone . imprinting is not a set guide line and often reflects the over all cycle of the strain base and its contact to other strains within the speices mass .. thus effecting the massif we remove a given strain base we in a fect change the mass wich causes changes threw out the speice even if these changes are not seen for many generations .. the balance of those strain bases that do see these changes do not show the normal levels of imprinting and thus the selectionswe make effect the mass in trun effecting the speice even if we stablize a strain and release it again into the mass .. the secound we change the life cycle of that strain base we have imprinted a new set of traits and developement sequences we may not see for years or untill the the strain base is mated to other strain bases out of our own controled environments ... all of these things relate to the development of the strain base and are not seen untill we under stand the theories of piont A in a genetic loop of imprinting .. the focus of piont A lets us develope a under standing of a cycle of imprinting of the SF (seedling fetus ) within the whom that is unseen to the human eye and thus has gone un-detected ......i have diesected hunderds of seeds at diffrent stages of developement and found the posstion of the fetus is much the same as human fetus ... in fact the cycle of life of those SF is so much alike i noted the lunar effects on the speices unborn SF are effected by the lunar cycles out side of its own environment in side of seed shell...much as it is in the human sex gender related effects in our own speices .. .much the way a human fetus developes to a given level and then drops to be born , thus dose the seedling fetus react the same way ... we just never knew it ,because we could not see it ..... if the mateing of the mother and father are effected by the lunar cycle thus is the seedling fetus as well ...this can only make me ask the question is the lunar cycle imprinting the human race beyond our known under standing of it and its effects ...on us as a speice .. and are these effect of unseen imprinting mapable ...in other speice like cannabiss ,, the theory says ,yes .it is possable ...
__________________
yahooka's rainman! Last edited by tazz11; 05-17-2008 at 04:08 AM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6 (permalink) |
|
Old School
Join Date: May 2001
Location: ny
Posts: 1,308
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
so thus a concluetion can only be that this theory of piont A has given us a unseen answer to a question we did not under stand and has yet to be confronted .. the piont A thoery defind not only the life cycle of this speice as well as the imprinting that takes place beyond our own sight . but has also defind a cause and effect of the lunar cycle on the imprinting of this speice as well as other speice ....
so look around you all the trees and grass and livening aniamals are also being effected by this lunar force we did not know had a effect at piont A ... it can only make me question how often the lunar effects cause changes in the cycle of this cannabis speice as well as other speice and what are those effects .. i would like to thank you for your time and under standing . and i hope this new theory of piont A can help both our own speice as well as other speice and give us a better under standing of the effects of lunar forces on the on going life cycle of speices here on earth ... i can only hope that the theory of piont A....can give us a new insight beyond what we can see for our selfs .. i thank you .... in concluetion the theory of piont A defines the 3 levels of imprinting have one main common facter , the lunar cycle !
__________________
yahooka's rainman! Last edited by tazz11; 05-17-2008 at 05:41 AM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#8 (permalink) |
|
ArcticMystic
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: People's Republic of Kanada
Posts: 2,666
Thanks: 10
Thanked 98 Times in 63 Posts
|
what is a spiece? The grammar and spelling are so bad as to make it unreadable. Sounds like you're trying to enlighten us on a concept but it's too confusing to read and understand.Thanks for trying, stay in school.
__________________
Wow, You look just like the guy in the picture next to my girlfriend's bed. |
|
|
|
![]() |
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | Rate This Thread |
|
|