Got a gallon of milk? - Page 2

JcP · 07-02-2008, 12:30 AM

if the biggest complaint is that a couple retards can't POUR MILK AS WELL, I say it's a good thing.

Square milk carton > extra gas usage and water waste.

myxomatosis · 07-02-2008, 12:57 AM

What a bunch of whiny assholes.

**sput·nik** · 07-02-2008, 06:33 AM

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Seriously that just depressed me. the whole "changing times" thing was horrible...

damn so no one besides Smaerd gets a momentary cringe from this?

by all means enjoy the "efficiency" of the future, as corporations continue to analyze & manipulate the way you go about your day, rooms packed with computers breaking us down into mere numbers & market trends.
onwards then, o little consumers, towards your destiny of robots & programmable living...

tradition, humanity, shit is for suckers anyways.

Flamingnun · 07-02-2008, 06:42 AM

Milk for the lose.

I'll use a pint at the most weekly, in teh coffee.

DrChronic · 07-02-2008, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sput·nik

damn so no one besides Smaerd gets a momentary cringe from this?

by all means enjoy the "efficiency" of the future, as corporations continue to analyze & manipulate the way you go about your day, rooms packed with computers breaking us down into mere numbers & market trends.
onwards then, o little consumers, towards your destiny of robots & programmable living...

tradition, humanity, shit is for suckers anyways.

I dunno man, tbh they are just saving money (and gas use / emmissions) in quite a brilliantly clever way.

All good imo

Someone now needs to invent a long life jug (shaped like the old gallon milk cartons) that you transfer the milk into when you get home, best of both worlds.

Seeds&Stems · 07-02-2008, 07:40 AM

CHUG IT! yeah

**sput·nik** · 07-02-2008, 10:05 AM

meh,
part of my rationale is that this is not some Brilliantly Clever New Idea.

rather, Sam's marketing people have finally reached the conclusion that the massive initial costs in changing over their manufacturing, delivery, and retail displays for this new style of bottle are finally justifiable because consumer rejection has reached the proper low threshold to make the switch cost-effective.

so sure, this particular case onlyrevolves around the packaging of milk.. but the exact same cost-analysis now occurs in institutions across the board.
schools eliminate recess & extra-curriculars and base entire educational policies upon federal financial incentives. banks and other service providers streamline customer assistance as well as security measures, eliminating the costly (and "imperfect!") human element wherever possible. we pave over & consolidate family farmland, making way for cheap suburban development & massive commercial feedlots.
but hey, lower taxes & fees for all!

the precedent represented here is what i find alarming.. the spoonfeeding of trends from these corporate giants that we all seem so ready&willing to accept as our own.

SmokeSomeDoja · 07-02-2008, 10:11 AM

^i dont think its really anything new. its the name of the game with corporations and capitalism. $$$ is the bottom line.

the price of oil is impacting these corporations, and theyre doing what they are doing to keep the profit margins up and growing.

as if humans and individuality had any space in the corporate mindset in the first place...

JcP · 07-02-2008, 11:46 AM

efficiency is a good thing. saving gas, space, and cost is a good thing.

I must be missing something here. I don't see why this is a sign of corporate ownage. Seems to me like our country is finally getting slapped by our oil addiction which is "forcing" us to become environmentally conscious.

Shrug/

verklingen · 07-02-2008, 11:54 AM

^ interestingly, capitalism works. maybe not perfectly but later is better than never right?

**Canuck Wisdom** · 07-02-2008, 12:41 PM

Milk in bags is the clear, and patriotic Canadian answer.

OldSchoolStylee · 07-02-2008, 04:13 PM

I remember when people were getting all uppity about milk

I remember making a thread about it

JcP · 07-02-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

^ interestingly, capitalism works. maybe not perfectly but later is better than never right?

later is better than never the same way getting a toe chopped off is better than getting a foot chopped off.

Sooner is better than later. But yes, later is better than never.

Bradford · 07-02-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck Wisdom

Milk in bags is the clear, and patriotic Canadian answer.

They made us do that in middle school. It was like a rite of passage or something. Went from cartons in elementary, to bags, back to cartons in high school.

**sput·nik** · 07-02-2008, 10:27 PM

JcP, that you can't feel where I'm running with this (and yeah, I'm really running,) that's too bad man.

Originally I was just commenting because I find the marketing behind it all to be kinda fascinating, and tragic at the same time.

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Originally Posted by verk

interestingly, capitalism works.

works.. to give us cheap goods? to improve technologies available? towards what end? is it really so black & white that you'd feel comfortable leaving it at that? only thing i'm sure of is that it definitely works for the guy on top.
what of the little guy? in this case, what of the dozen small milk processing facilities spread across rural areas forced to close after they're replaced by a single new plant? you know, the one that probably employs a fresh batch of manufactured-home-dwelling long-commute enthusiasts & supports their fancy new 'burb.

in other news, do profitability and what is best for us, and for the planet, always line up so rather neatly as they do here?

all i'm really trying to say is: fuck the superstores, support your local businesses WOO!

**Captain Cannabis** · 07-02-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sput·nik

all i'm really trying to say is: fuck the superstores, support your local businesses WOO!

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DrChronic · 07-03-2008, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sput·nik

JcP, that you can't feel where I'm running with this (and yeah, I'm really running,) that's too bad man.

Originally I was just commenting because I find the marketing behind it all to be kinda fascinating, and tragic at the same time.

works.. to give us cheap goods? to improve technologies available? towards what end? is it really so black & white that you'd feel comfortable leaving it at that? only thing i'm sure of is that it definitely works for the guy on top.
what of the little guy? in this case, what of the dozen small milk processing facilities spread across rural areas forced to close after they're replaced by a single new plant? you know, the one that probably employs a fresh batch of manufactured-home-dwelling long-commute enthusiasts & supports their fancy new 'burb.

in other news, do profitability and what is best for us, and for the planet, always line up so rather neatly as they do here?

all i'm really trying to say is: fuck the superstores, support your local businesses WOO!

Im all for supporting local businesses as well but support them enough and they become a chain, start getting all corporate and then all of a sudden they are selling milk in square jugs.

The fact that they clearly had to wait for the oppertune moment to make the switch is more a reflection on us than them imo, and to be fair if they had got it wrong profits would drop and they would have to let people off etc etc.

Flamingnun · 07-03-2008, 04:51 AM

Thank god you people weren't around when we moved from cows to bottles, there'd be anarchy.

**sput·nik** · 07-03-2008, 04:54 AM

nah, bottles be keepin that shit real.

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Flamingnun dot dot dot Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 16,859 Thanks: 37 Thanked 243 Times in 134 Posts	Milk for the lose. I'll use a pint at the most weekly, in teh coffee. __________________

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sput·nik denizen Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: the white lodge Posts: 3,957 Thanks: 86 Thanked 79 Times in 57 Posts	meh, part of my rationale is that this is not some Brilliantly Clever New Idea. rather, Sam's marketing people have finally reached the conclusion that the massive initial costs in changing over their manufacturing, delivery, and retail displays for this new style of bottle are finally justifiable because consumer rejection has reached the proper low threshold to make the switch cost-effective. so sure, this particular case onlyrevolves around the packaging of milk.. but the exact same cost-analysis now occurs in institutions across the board. schools eliminate recess & extra-curriculars and base entire educational policies upon federal financial incentives. banks and other service providers streamline customer assistance as well as security measures, eliminating the costly (and "imperfect!") human element wherever possible. we pave over & consolidate family farmland, making way for cheap suburban development & massive commercial feedlots. but hey, lower taxes & fees for all! the precedent represented here is what i find alarming.. the spoonfeeding of trends from these corporate giants that we all seem so ready&willing to accept as our own. __________________ Which came first, the intestine or the tapeworm? - William S. Burroughs

07-02-2008, 10:11 AM	#28 (permalink)
SmokeSomeDoja Lushous Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erogenous Zones Posts: 18,323 Thanks: 124 Thanked 332 Times in 184 Posts	^i dont think its really anything new. its the name of the game with corporations and capitalism. $$$ is the bottom line. the price of oil is impacting these corporations, and theyre doing what they are doing to keep the profit margins up and growing. as if humans and individuality had any space in the corporate mindset in the first place... __________________ fotoz fo yo azz "I've run over black cats that were luckier than me."

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verklingen what is Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: the foundation of heaven on earth Posts: 5,552 Thanks: 177 Thanked 466 Times in 267 Posts	^ interestingly, capitalism works. maybe not perfectly but later is better than never right? __________________ you can't explain the rules of tennis to a dog, but he runs after it and plays with it...like the dog playing with the ball, we don't have the necessary tools needed to interpret the afterlife..until we get there, then a whole new universe is given to us. Perhaps 200 billion light years away, there's the next phase of our existance..Remember you cannot destroy energy, which is all we are... -matthew munari rip matt

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OldSchoolStylee ¯\(º_o)/¯ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Blighty Posts: 8,554 Thanks: 15 Thanked 87 Times in 31 Posts	I remember when people were getting all uppity about milk I remember making a thread about it __________________ .<12not_bongo> oss is legit hellz ya.

07-03-2008, 04:51 AM	#38 (permalink)
Flamingnun dot dot dot Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 16,859 Thanks: 37 Thanked 243 Times in 134 Posts	Thank god you people weren't around when we moved from cows to bottles, there'd be anarchy. __________________

07-03-2008, 04:54 AM	#39 (permalink)
sput·nik denizen Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: the white lodge Posts: 3,957 Thanks: 86 Thanked 79 Times in 57 Posts	nah, bottles be keepin that shit real. __________________ Which came first, the intestine or the tapeworm? - William S. Burroughs