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Old 09-24-2008, 05:43 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I thought that the cholestorol in butter, while something that your body does need, is bad for you in excess...like how pretty much everything is bad for you in excess.
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:50 PM   #62 (permalink)
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You`re right excess is usually bad.

But the cholesterol in butter is better than the cholesterol in margarine. Cholesterol is not necessarily bad. Our bodies need certain cholesterols to function.

If you eat a vegan diet you need to eat foods that contain healthy cholesterol or you`ll run into bad trouble- avocados being a likely source of healthy cholesterol.

It`s not that simple a thing and has been badly mis- represented by the media in recent years.

"Fats that heal and fats that kill"- Udo Erasmus.

It tells it better than I can.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:59 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:01 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:08 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:30 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Udo Erasmus certainly knows his stuff, it was a textbook for Nutrition some ten years ago.
HDL's (high density lipo-proteins) or the good cholesterol is the one that cleanses the arteries from the LDL (low DL's) or bad cholesterol build up. So, it flows naturally that the higher the HDL/good cholesterol the less is LDL/bad cholesterol.
Basically, you need fat, you need to increase the ratio of monounsaturated fats mainly from plant sources, and decrease the poly and trans fats. Avocadoes dont contain cholesterol, they can lower cholesterol by containing these good fats tho.
Fish oil also raises your LDL count.
Omega 3,6 & 9 from various sources = good.
Animal fats > Arachadonic Acid (sp?)> Inflammatory processes = not good.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:33 PM   #67 (permalink)
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^ Word (there`s no thanks in FFA).

Edit: Thanks for clarifying the avocado. I tend to work on the Bill Burroughs principal. I`ll tell you whether it`s gonna kill you or not. After that I take no responsibility for the factuality.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:28 AM   #68 (permalink)
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In the past life was harder, people worked harder, walked more and ate a lot less meat than today.
The more physically active you are, the more food you can eat without fattening.
In America and Europe today, the people spend more time sitting than anything else and eat more than ever before.

No wonder people are getting fat.

Over here in Israel, you just can't find the heavy junk food, Jewish dietry laws just don't allow it. However you do see a lot of pot bellied men in their '40's + from too much bbqing

After 40 the body's metabolism slows down, so no matter how much you exercise it gets harder to burn off the fat.

Since the introduction of McD's etc 10 years ago, the country is getting fatter (although the price's tend to stop abuse a big mac meal here costs over $10 and a large pizza without extra toppings about $15)

I work with American groups for more than 10 years and they are getting fatter.
The kids especially. These days American kids weigh and take up as much space as Israeli adults.

They say that finally health costs from obesity have passed those from smoking in the U.S.

Man it's scary. It reminds me of 2000 AD comic books when all the Americans lived in Mega-citys and many weighed over a ton.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:42 AM   #69 (permalink)
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im so sick of euro fags talkin shit about fat americans...

europe has just as much of a weight problem as america....
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:48 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Here's a question.... Why the hell do you people give a rats ass about others being fat?? ESPECIALLY when you don't even live in the same country, I mean wtf??? Get lives you douchebags. Please.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:34 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I live in the hometown of Whataburger (Corpus Christi, Tx). They are fuckin everywhere around here. We even have a baseball field named after it (Whataburger Field).
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:59 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:02 PM   #73 (permalink)
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I work with American groups for more than 10 years
Are those the wealthy American jews ,who send their children to Israel for whatever it is they do it for.?

If so this is not a good cross section of the American youth.

But I agree many Americans do not concern themselves with health as they should ,particularly where weight is concerned.

Eat to live ,I say ,don't live to eat.
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instead of debating and excess grams of fat, settle w/corm and be happy
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:26 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Aaaaw, I want a corm!!!

I was just having a discussion about Whataburger the other night. My bf's father mentioned what awesome food they have, and I had to ask him if he was being facetious. When he told me that he did in fact love their food, I had to disagree with him and let him know that I personally found shit like that to be repulsive. I'm a chick though, so I guess I don't get slack for preferring things like veggies and chicken over greasy burgers from a 24-hour fast food joint.
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:18 PM   #76 (permalink)
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if its any consolation, my favorite meal is a good salad, and 90% of the dishes I know how to make are chicken.
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no wonder most americans are fat.
Anyone of those burgers is gonna do you more damage than a pack of cigarettes.
They need to start warning people of the dangers.
fuck the dangers

the world ends in 2012, live a little bit you fuckin buzzkill
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