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Old 10-02-2008, 03:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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aquiring visas to travel abroad

kinda lazy to look it all up on the internet so just a few questions
a) how long must you wait?
-and how much do they cost?(also is it different for different countries)
-how long is one good for?
b)how hard is it to get into mexico and are what are some areas to shy away from?

just trying to get away from the u.s and probably go to mexico but also keeping in mind some other countries. definitly want to stroll thru vietnam/laos/thialand/malaysia exp diff cultures and whatnot but it might be an expensive ticket to se asia for 2.
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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damn so i was scolling thru old threads on illegal immigration to mexico and found this from hedons



Speaking of hypocrisy... Here is an excerpt from the Rush Limbaugh Show...


“All right, immigration proposals under discussion. Let me add mine to the mix. I want to call this proposal the Limbaugh Laws. …First, if you immigrate to the United States of America, you must speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor. [America is] not going to take unskilled workers…There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections, no government business will be conducted in your native language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote…nor will they ever be allowed to hold political office. According to the Limbaugh Laws, if you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled, ever, to welfare, to food stamps, or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If you don't know have that amount of money, you can't come and invest. You have to stay home. If you do come and you want to buy land, okay, but we're going to restrict your options. You will not be allowed to buy waterfront property in the United States. That will be reserved for citizens naturally born in this country.”

“In fact, as a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to property… Another thing. You don't have the right to protest when you come here. You're allowed no demonstrations, you cannot wave a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies, or you get sent home. You're a foreigner. You shut your mouth or you get out, and if you come here illegally, you go straight to jail and we're going to hunt you down 'til we find you.”

"“I can imagine many of you think that the Limbaugh Laws are pretty harsh. I imagine today some of you probably are going, "Yeah! Yeah!" Well, let me tell you this, folks. Every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico, today. I just read you Mexican immigration law. That's how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country.”"





Hypocrisy?


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so this thread was from '06 but it makes me start to wonder about mexico. i have to know spanish. what if i try to learn. am i an exception?

i dont plan on going there illegally so i was wondering are these laws pertaining to all immigrants illegal or not?

You have to be a professional or an investor. [America is] not going to take unskilled workers…

does computer work count as a profession as i most likely wont invest and i am an unskilled worker. so am i fucked going to mexico?\
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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well can anyone just give me some links that may be helpful i know there are mad different specifications that each country probably has but where can i get some info on obtaining visas?

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Old 10-02-2008, 05:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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you dont need a visa to travel abroad, you just need a passport. you need a visa if you want to stay for a prolonged period of time in another country, and to work in said foreign country.

it differs from country to country but usually you can stay 2 months or so in most countries until you have to leave, but its not like they are going to track you down if you stay a bit longer.
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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yea man i appreciate the response but that is what i was thinking of doing.. maybe staying abroad for a while and working an internet business.

and like i said in the o.p what if i wanted to go to se asia and go from one country to the next? what would i do then visa/passport wise.
thanks for the help
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Ted is a bit wrong, sorry.

A passport is required everywhere you go, but you do need visas to enter certain countries, depending on where your passport originated and where you want to go. I have dual citizen passports from USA and Britain, and when i go to Kenya i need a visa if i use my US passport but I dont if i use the UK one. Costs and lengths of clearance vary from country to country, for example my Chinese visa cost me $130 and needed a wallet picture ID. Since this is my first China visa I am only allowed to enter the country twice in six months, but after that I can get a full year visa with unlimited entries. It took about five days from applying to picking it up.

A US passport doesn't need a visa to enter Thailand but you do for Malaysia. Obviously Mexico doesn't require one for a US citizen. Also, usually you cannot get visas if your passport is going to expire within six months.

All information regarding a visa or not can be found at the respective countries' embassies/consulates. Check their websites/make a call and you'll probably need to make a personal appearance as well.

Thailand is my absolute favorite place on planet earth. Yea the plane ticket will be a bit pricey, but once you're there everything is dirt cheap. 5 star hotels for 50 bucks a night, food for pennies, and you can plan for 5 excursions for less than $200.
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Obviously Mexico doesn't require one for a US citizen. Also, usually you cannot get visas if your passport is going to expire within six months.
But you do need a passport to get back into the US.

As with Canada.

Is this not true.

Also there are different passports depending on whether one travels by land or by sea and air.

I think ?
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I'm pretty sure you have to have one to get back into the US or it might still be that all you need is a valid driver's license or state-issued ID.

For land travel you can use a passport card, but if you want to travel by air or boat you have to upgrade to the passport book.
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But you do need a passport to get back into the US.
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A passport is required everywhere you go.
I've always had the passport book and it has worked land, air and sea. You need a passport to leave the US by flight/sea as reprisler said, and so you need it to come back to prove you are a US citizen. E-check-in/e-tickets need passports like ATMs need debit cards. Visas require passport numbers too, so there's no point in getting anything else but the book, imo. You can get them in 5 and 10 year increments, and if you're like me you can get extra pages for your book when it fills up. Some countries require a full blank page for their entry stamps, even if their stamp isnt that big.

On a side note, I'm coming back from China this weekend. Pics shall be posted when i recover from jetlag/time difference.
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