Language and watching it...

higherthanamile · 10-13-2009, 04:10 PM

About 5 minutes ago, I was battling with a swifter dust mop. It was caught on something in the closet and I couldn't jiggle it free.

So I said, with crescendoing volume, 'Holy Shiiiiiiiittt!!!!' and immediately heard, 'Gawd Dammit!!! This is stupid!' coming from the living room, courtesy of 2 year old Little Wing.

Mercury · 10-13-2009, 04:18 PM

I don't think it's funny or cute when children curse. I think it's ugly and aweful and sad that they cannot express themselves in a more eloquent manner.

Dr. Drew · 10-13-2009, 04:21 PM

shut the fuck up merc you faggot.

badgoalie85 · 10-13-2009, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mercury

I don't think it's funny or cute when children curse. I think it's ugly and aweful and sad that they cannot express themselves in a more eloquent manner.

holy shit shut the fuck up merc.

god damn.

herbinator45 · 10-13-2009, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mercury

I don't think it's funny or cute when children curse. I think it's ugly and aweful and sad that they cannot express themselves in a more eloquent manner.

spell-check before passing judgement on the eloquence of others.

Mercury · 10-13-2009, 04:45 PM

thanks herb. at least someone else here cares about the english language.

SpankyMcLankey · 10-13-2009, 04:56 PM

I agree with you man, I didn't start cussing till 7th grade, and even then my brother and his friends discouraged it.

The worst part is that when we get older cussing is the only vocabulary that comes to mind whenever we injure ourselves.

badgoalie85 · 10-13-2009, 05:01 PM

oh wow spanky and merc are working together to make a funny thread gay.

Mercury · 10-13-2009, 05:06 PM

your mom let you cuss at home, didn't she badgoalie? i used to be jealous of those households but now i'm glad i wasn't raised in one. i could never imagine saying god damnit at the dinner table. i'd be so ashamed.

higherthanamile · 10-13-2009, 05:25 PM

Merc, you're missing the point.

I'm not teaching my kid to swear. Not intentionally.

badgoalie85 · 10-13-2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mercury

your mom let you cuss at home, didn't she badgoalie? i used to be jealous of those households but now i'm glad i wasn't raised in one. i could never imagine saying god damnit at the dinner table. i'd be so ashamed.

yes my mom encouraged me to curse as often as possible. and my teachers.

Mercury · 10-13-2009, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by higherthanamile

Merc, you're missing the point.

I'm not teaching my kid to swear. Not intentionally.

i know, i know. it happens. but you're not gonna set a rule?

Waves · 10-13-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by higherthanamile

About 5 minutes ago, I was battling with a swifter dust mop. It was caught on something in the closet and I couldn't jiggle it free.

So I said, with crescendoing volume, 'Holy Shiiiiiiiittt!!!!' and immediately heard, 'Gawd Dammit!!! This is stupid!' coming from the living room, courtesy of 2 year old Little Wing.

Little Wing would be an awesome name for a kid

he would have to be an indian of course, with dreams to grow up and be a warchief

SpankyMcLankey · 10-13-2009, 05:48 PM

there's a time and a place for it, and I probably cuss more than any one I know. I just agree that it does start young, so why not try to prevent it if possible? I started young, and I will cuss like a sailor till I die.

herbinator45 · 10-13-2009, 05:53 PM

hahah waves, i got the same indian vibe from the tot's name upon first read as well

badgoalie85 · 10-13-2009, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by SpankyMcLankey

there's a time and a place for it, and I probably cuss more than any one I know. I just agree that it does start young, so why not try to prevent it if possible? I started young, and I will cuss like a sailor till I die.

oh i see...so you're one of them self-hatin' cussers are ya?

Mercury · 10-13-2009, 05:56 PM

It's true about that natural cussing reaction to getting hurt. Also, when I drop things I tend to cuss. I guess THAT's better than giving a daintly little "ooops!" or "owwie!"

Hooked · 10-13-2009, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mercury

at least someone else here cares about the english language.

I studied that shit extensively and majored in how to use it to express.

Kids repeat what they hear. My father used to scream at me when I was single digits (age-wise). One of my best friends got me in trouble with my principal in 1st grade because I said "fucking" and he was offended or threatened, even though it was said in a casual manner regarding no one in particular.

Now I have a niece (turning 12 in Dec.) and a nephew (9) and I'm having to sputter gibberish or fake extreme emotion to mask my slips.

Is that fair? I never heard a single word on cable (HBO, SHO, MAX access since age 2) that I hadn't already been verbally abused with.

*chiquitito violins, por fa)

that all aside, those words are part of the lexicon, and they have unique derivations and myriad uses and contexts. I hate when older adults say to younger adults, teens or mature adolescents, "you could express yourself so much more eloquently, so much more intelligently, so much more uniquely."

Yeah, it's true, part of the time, maybe most. But there are certain situations where words like "fuck" and "shit" are the most accurate for describing what's being described. It's called being succinct.

higherthanamile · 10-13-2009, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mercury

i know, i know. it happens. but you're not gonna set a rule?

No, not for a form of expression I believe she has to right to exercise later on in life.

What my wife and I do is immediately correct ourselves, like in this case, substituting 'Grape Donut' for Gawd Dammit.

That's what I did. I went in to the living room and started stomping my feet and saying 'GRAPE DONUT, GRAPE DONUT!!' and started laughing at myself.

She mimicked me, and that was that.

It'll be fun to explain why my daughter is yelling 'Grape Donut!' to anyone in the future.

Or when she calls her teacher a 'horse licker'.

awwsuga23 · 10-13-2009, 08:20 PM

eh cussing became acceptable to my parents when i was abt 14ish?? its cute sometimes when kids do it. long as they are not my kids. i fully plan do be an old school mouth washing mom. its soap in the mouth if my kids wanna be potty mouths