Whats up w/heavens stairway?

[rpostle]

nvr mind!

[hempophiliac]

You did mean a seedbank, I hope?

Just kidding!
I've been wondering that, too. It was a really reputable clandestine operation.!

[JayDonC]

LOL

yep, HS was shut down about 2 or 3 years ago and them getting busted was about much more than "a guy who's just helping the sick."

Seedbay
Dr. Chronic
Hemp Depot
>about as good as it gets
>>they are intercepting more & more shipments from the U.K. though, beware....

[BearsysRevenge]

I really would like to help, but I couldn't grasp one coherent sentence from that jumble of text.

Sorry.


Edit: Try this... http://www.seedbankupdate.com/

[rpostle]

ya must not have understood,cause I wasnt asking for help,but thanks for the weak feedback!

[JayDonC]

dude, you're asking about Heaven's Stairway, you curse fem seeds despite never growing them, and you rabble on about shit you seemingly know nothing about. That's about as weak as it gets.

[rpostle]

try reading a grow book b4 trying to talk about something you no nothing about!A book that explains it(same way I did)The breeders bible by greg green look up fem seeds for yourself and dont just look at the pics!Im the only one that took the time to explain THE TRUTH about them!read it dik head!

[BearsysRevenge]

Reading a book is far different from living something.

It's called The Cannabis Grow Bible not "Breeders bible", I have it in front of me and I just read the entire chapter on seeds(Chapter 2) and he never once mentions feminized seeds.

So I suggest you read something before you claim knowledge about it.

Also I suggest you go to school and learn a bit about proper English.

[JayDonC]

Originally Posted by rpostle

try reading a grow book b4 trying to talk about something you no nothing about!A book that explains it(same way I did)The breeders bible by greg green look up fem seeds for yourself and dont just look at the pics!Im the only one that took the time to explain THE TRUTH about them!read it dik head!

oh damn, I didn't know you had read a book. My bad.

LOL

[OldMan&TheWeed]

Here's the breeder's bible:

Amazon.com: The Cannabis Breeder's Bible: The Definitive Guide to Marijuana Genetics, Cannabis Botany and Creating Strains for the Seed Market: Greg Green: Books

I've never read it, but I plan to. Not because I'm interested in in developing new strains of cannabis, but just to get a good handle on the subject of genetics taught in a context that interests me.

[farmergiles]

Yeah man Bearsy get your facts right it spoils the pawnage

[rpostle]

hey dumbass, hes (greg green) has another book called cannabis BREEDERS bible too!are you pretending to be retarded or are you!The BREEDERS bible has more info on feminized seeds, man you couldnt hit water if ya fell out of a boat!

[rpostle]

Its explains breeding w/out boring you to death!

[GanjaGuru]

When it comes to growing/breeding etc you can read as many books as you like and still you will find that it's not what you thought it was.

There is no substitute for hands on experience.

In regards to feminized seeds they are good if you don't ever want males. If you want to breed you don't want these because you want to have males.

I have grown from feminized seed a few times and have had good results... The bud was just as good as bud grown from non-feminized seeds.

So just because some guy who writes a book says he doesn't like feminized seeds or he thinks they are a scam doesn't make it so.

Who needs to buy a book about growing or breeding anyway, it's a waste of cash if you have the internet since all the information you will ever need is in the free domain.

[hempophiliac]

Originally Posted by GanjaGuru

When it comes to growing/breeding etc you can read as many books as you like and still you will find that it's not what you thought it was.

There is no substitute for hands on experience.

In regards to feminized seeds they are good if you don't ever want males. If you want to breed you don't want these because you want to have males.

I have grown from feminized seed a few times and have had good results... The bud was just as good as bud grown from non-feminized seeds.

So just because some guy who writes a book says he doesn't like feminized seeds or he thinks they are a scam doesn't make it so.

Who needs to buy a book about growing or breeding anyway, it's a waste of cash if you have the internet since all the information you will ever need is in the free domain.

Personally, I like books for those random moments a computer isn't convenient. It seems obvious that posting specific questions online can elicit much more focused responses than might be found in a book, based in experience rather than research, so I use both resources. For what it's worth, I've had pretty good luck with feminized seeds. If you are just growing a few plants and don't plan to breed yet, feminized seeds can save time, space and resources. I just wish prices of feminized seeds weren't so expensive, but then I'm not a seed merchant.

[rpostle]

Ive done more than read a book ive grown almost 20yrs minus 6 yrs I went to prison for it!

[rpostle]

and the reason I brought up the book was just to back up the suggestions I made,that feminized might not be the best choice for new growers,since their new to growing and stress can cause herms.And it seems like beg.choose fems cause their paranoid about males.And I wanted them to know its easy to identify males and plenty of time to pull them before they mature and drop pollen!and there are grow tips to get more females than males from standard seeds!I just wanted to get my opinion out,hope'n it might be worth something to someone.But being fairly new to the site and posting those facts rubbed a few "pro" fem growers the wrong way!No bad intensions,for what its worth, I apologize and will think twice before throwing my opinion out there!

[GanjaGuru]

and the reason I brought up the book was just to back up the suggestions I made,that feminized might not be the best choice for new growers,since their new to growing and stress can cause herms.

So? Doesn't matter if the seeds are feminized or not stress can cause hermies anyway regardless of whether or not the seeds are feminized.

And it seems like beg.choose fems cause their paranoid about males.And I wanted them to know its easy to identify males and plenty of time to pull them before they mature and drop pollen!and there are grow tips to get more females than males from standard seeds!

While this may be true in a lot of cases it's not the message you have been spreading to everyone. The thread title says it all.

IMO in regards to plant sex I personally believe that it's all chance unless you have feminized seeds as it all comes down to genetics.

I just wanted to get my opinion out,hope'n it might be worth something to someone.But being fairly new to the site and posting those facts rubbed a few "pro" fem growers the wrong way!No bad intensions,for what its worth, I apologize and will think twice before throwing my opinion out there!

You just didn't throw your opinion out there though you acted like a complete dick head.

The know it all attitude won't get you far. While it's one thing to voice your opinion it's another to tell everyone else who disagrees with you that they know jack shit.

Ive done more than read a book ive grown almost 20yrs minus 6 yrs I went to prison for it!

Anyone who needs to reference a book for grow tips hasn't grown for 20 years.... You should already know everything.

The arguments about seeds here that you have made are all based on what was said in a book.

Anyone can say something on the internet doesn't make it so, and this makes the above quote irrelevant.

No one cares about your personal life in these threads or how many years you were in jail or have grown for. Mentioning it certainly doesn't add to your credibility either.

[hempophiliac]

I hate to hear when anyone has been thrown in jail for growing; sorry to learn that happened. Perhaps we could all agree that becoming skilled at growing marijuana should be a step toward cultivating peace. But then, I'm a relative newbie and even at my advancing age rather idealistic.
"Parenting" plants is enjoyable to me. Since I grow for medical use, it is rewarding in all kinds of ways beyond financial (God knows, since I don't sell) to plant, grow and harvest plants that offer the benefit this one does. It saddens me to no end that a bunch of bureaucrats and law enforcement officials decided to transform growing such a marvelous and useful plant into a criminal activity.
You all can argue as much as you want but I am here to learn as much as I can, and to ultimately become more skilled at producing medicine to benefit myself and trusted friends. Let me keep writing and I'll probably talk myself into becoming a Rastafarian! Ah, the weed as sacrament!
But now I'm getting silly...

[slunt]

It is somewhat refreshing to see someone state an opinion AND back up why with the source of the info. I am in agreement that Fem'd seeds are not as fantastic as the breeders like to present them and if you have some basic knowledge they are an unnecessary waste of money...but, if it's your first time growing or you have limited knowledge and have not yet found your way to Yahooka, Fem'd seeds will give you your best chance at success. I will remind all that this forum is not FFA and we try to keep our discussions civil.