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Old 08-20-2007, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Pothead Work Ethic?

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my philosophy is to make the most amount of money doing the least amount of work possible... and besides, i make enough money i can do anything i want after work. and i do mean anything.
Work is not a means to an end.

Work is the end.

Period.

Dig what I'm saying?

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Old 08-20-2007, 05:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Work is another 'get rich quick' scheme, man...



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Old 08-20-2007, 06:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Work's a way to get what you want, that's it. It's something most people don't like, which is why we spend our weekends and vacations on the couch with a beer instead of doing extra work. It's not an end, and it shouldn't be one of the most important things in your life. Most people's jobs are just some bullshit where they make a bit of money for themselves and a shitload of money for some rich asshole above them. Where's the value in working hard at some stupid office job?

Ever since the rise of Protestantism and the "Protestant work ethic," people have developed this idea that not working all the time is a sin and that you should always be engaged in some productive activity. This is a destructive way of looking on life that makes people neurotic and over-stressed and leaves us with less time for our friends and family.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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when you take a job, you agree to perform a task to a certain quality. You must always strive to exceed that quality. ALWAYS show up on time NEVER call in sick. ALWAYS work your hardest and do your best. Thats MY pothead work ethic.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Work's not an end, and it shouldn't be one of the most important things in your life. Most people's jobs are just some bullshit where they make a bit of money for themselves and a shitload of money for some rich asshole above them. Where's the value in working hard at some stupid office job?
More verbal sparring with lil. I love it...

Working hard enables you to have a job that you love. Nowhere is this more true than this country. The odds are stacked in your favor.

But some potheads don't believe in this. "I just wanna make money and hang out with my friends while stoned," they say. And work becomes nothing more than a means to achieve that.

In essence, they have no passion for life and the wondrous, soul-affirming opportunites it brings. I guess that's fine.

The stereotype of the pothead should be like the nerd stereotype: someone who is obsessively passionate about ideas, maybe even to the point of ridiculousness. And I'm not talking about the crazy, conspitorial ideas that typify the pothead, like aliens secretly controlling the world. No, I'm talking about ideas that can be applied to some concrete artistic or intellectual field.

And where does the working part come in? You work hard in order to obtain an employment position enabling you to furthur pursue and enjoy your ideas. Sure, you could not try, making your passion just a hobby, but why not make it an all-day affair?

I'd like to hear someone argue with me about the fact that, at least in this country, work is about pursuing your passion.
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i smoke during work all the time so i dont really mind

and this thread is definitley not in the right section
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Some work isn't a chore if you enjoy what you do. However the majority doesn't get to do what they like.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You can do what you like. You need persistence.

You can only do what you like if you love it. Being really good, having a plan and making smart decisions are all helpful but really you just need the passion.

If you smoke all day sometimes the passion goes with it. Some people can balance and others can't.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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In reality though alot of people dont get to do what they what due to personal life and a big one is MONEY. What if you have the brains but not the funds to get the education?
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It is a lucky man who has fulfilling work. For many, their work is time deducted from their lives. Like prison, it is a kind of living death.

One thing I like about living here in the U.S. is it is possible for one to reinvent himself, go to college in mid-life, and change his career. In other countries where I have lived, most people are locked into a certain place in life by the time they're 20 if not earlier. Any chance to advance comes in the form of a once in a lifetime university entrance exam that is an all or nothing opportunity that cannot be revisited again.

Wherever you live, you're lucky if your work has meaning; if what you do seems to you to have more significance than just being a means to put food on the table and keep a roof over your head.
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The stereotype of the pothead should be like the nerd stereotype: someone who is obsessively passionate about ideas, maybe even to the point of ridiculousness. And I'm not talking about the crazy, conspitorial ideas that typify the pothead, like aliens secretly controlling the world. No, I'm talking about ideas that can be applied to some concrete artistic or intellectual field.
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
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In reality though alot of people dont get to do what they what due to personal life and a big one is MONEY. What if you have the brains but not the funds to get the education?
You don't need an education. Yes, it helps. But all you really need is to be great at something and be able to sell yourself. i.e. convince other people you're great. Once you get some experience, education doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of future jobs. Sometimes you can get loans to get an education but sometimes you need a cosigner and sometimes you can't find one.

Anyway, brains should be enough.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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More verbal sparring with lil. I love it...

Working hard enables you to have a job that you love. Nowhere is this more true than this country. The odds are stacked in your favor.

But some potheads don't believe in this. "I just wanna make money and hang out with my friends while stoned," they say. And work becomes nothing more than a means to achieve that.

In essence, they have no passion for life and the wondrous, soul-affirming opportunites it brings. I guess that's fine.

The stereotype of the pothead should be like the nerd stereotype: someone who is obsessively passionate about ideas, maybe even to the point of ridiculousness. And I'm not talking about the crazy, conspitorial ideas that typify the pothead, like aliens secretly controlling the world. No, I'm talking about ideas that can be applied to some concrete artistic or intellectual field.

And where does the working part come in? You work hard in order to obtain an employment position enabling you to furthur pursue and enjoy your ideas. Sure, you could not try, making your passion just a hobby, but why not make it an all-day affair?

I'd like to hear someone argue with me about the fact that, at least in this country, work is about pursuing your passion.

to be honestafter i read the first post you made i didnt think much of you or this thread. but after this post i like what your getting at.

i think your absolutly right as far as pursuing your passion in life. matter of fact, one thing my dad used to ALWAYS tell me is that "if you have a job or career you love, you'll never work a day of your life". best piece of advice he ever gave me in my opinion.

but your opinion on potheads: "I just wanna make money and hang out with my friends while stoned," i think is incorrect in many cases. in my circle of "pothead friends" 3 attend the same university as me and are quite intelligent. the're going somewhere in life. my dealer is the same age as me, doesnt goto college, but he is a medium to low lever manager at wells fargo and has been there for 3 years. on top of that he sells abround a pound every 2 days. the weed he sells is just exta money ofcoarce. point is he loves both of his "jobs" and he knows if he sticks with the bank long enough it will pay off in the long run. all the people i smoke with regularly, work hard and play even harder. the way i view life, you just gotta balence everything in within your control to the best of your ability.

maybe you should be hanging around more productive "stoners"
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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hey vidood. thank you for not giving me credit on your quote. you just changed the name. pls gimme credit for those are MY words of wisdom
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I've enjoyed working at one of my jobs.

Work basically is whatever you make it.
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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my dealer is the same age as me, doesnt goto college, but he is a medium to low lever manager at wells fargo and has been there for 3 years. on top of that he sells abround a pound every 2 days. the weed he sells is just exta money ofcoarce. point is he loves both of his "jobs" and he knows if he sticks with the bank long enough it will pay off in the long run.
If your dealer friend really enjoys banking, and likes learning about the theories of capitalism and currency and regularly reads the financial section of the newspaper... If that's the case, good for him, he's making the most out of his life, and better still that he's doing it without a college education.

But if its more of a "living" (which I'm guessing it is) than a passion, then I'm not quite sure what he's living for.............
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hey vidood. thank you for not giving me credit on your quote. you just changed the name. pls gimme credit for those are MY words of wisdom
I thought I was sparing you from embarassment
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