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Old 04-26-2009, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Swine flu

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Old 04-26-2009, 09:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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dammit, i wanted to make the Swine Flu thread.
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So, if a stranger walked up to you and poured pebble like seeds into your hand and then said, plant them and your harvest can be made into rope cloth or paper, it could help the sick or intoxicate. What would you say?
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This shit scares me. Mainly because I live in Texas and we're right next to Mexico. And it slightly worries me that I go to a pretty large campus so that means there's that much more chance that I have of catching it. I fucking hate being sick... But I highly doubt that I would get sick. *knocks on wood*
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I was hoping no one would make this thread.

I am so fucking sick of hearing about this shit. Not only has it only affected a handful of people, shit isn't even killing people here yet. On top of that, the drugs we have don't even kill the shit. Just another spinach, peppers, tomatoes, pistachios, sars, bird flu bullshit overblown media sensation. I think I'd rather them jerk each other off about how violent the world is.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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population density and lack of proper food standards are to blame... I don't see this becoming a widespread epidemic in America and the like...
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The flu is nothing to laugh or make light of.

The flu is a disease that has a high rate of mutation. The flu changes. It changes fast.

The Center for Disease Control estimates that an average of 36,000 people die in the U.S. each year from flu related deaths. This is from the common, controllable types of flu.

The flu killed 50 million people in 1918. Within months, it had killed more people than any other illness in recorded history.

The plague did not discriminate. It was rampant in urban and rural areas, from the densely populated East coast to the remotest parts of Alaska. Young adults, usually unaffected by these types of infectious diseases, were among the hardest hit groups along with the elderly and young children.

Now granted, we have antibiotics now, but there are strains of flu that are resistant to treatment and with the high rate of mutation, it is not a stretch to expect the 'super flu' to come along anytime now.

Now, am I going to live in fear, hiding in my house? No.

What really gets me is that so much could be prevented if people would just wash their fucking hands. I mean, really, it only takes a few seconds and so many people just don't do it.
 
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by grieves View Post
population density and lack of proper food standards are to blame... I don't see this becoming a widespread epidemic in America and the like...
So people in rural areas are immune to the flu?

This is a casually spread virus. While it will spread faster in high density areas like Mexico DF, it will have no problem replicating in less dense populations as well.

I lived in Mexico for several years back in the 90s. I know how the IMSS works. Under normal circumstances they spring into action and do what they have to do. Since it is the only part of the federal government that the general population has any faith in, folks usually comply with their instructions. In the US however, people are less likely to follow instructions, and the government is less likely to initiate measures such as closing schools, churches etc out of fear of overreacting, harming the economy, or violating someones civil rights.

If we are left untouched it will be because the virus petered out on its own (as did the swine flu epidemic of 1976), not because the US public health system is superior.

If it does not peter out, I've read estimates of 5% mortality.

Who knows?
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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some kids were infected in a town less than a mile north of me. all local school districts are closed and parents of children at the affected schools are instructed to quarantine. . . shit's pretty gnarly
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Now granted, we have antibiotics now, but there are strains of flu that are resistant to treatment and with the high rate of mutation, it is not a stretch to expect the 'super flu' to come along anytime now.
It's a virus.

Antibiotics are useless against a virus.

Our only weapons are hygiene and quarantine.
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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interestingly enough, influenza, measels, smallpox, etc. etc. etc. were all derived from animals - humans living within close proximity to animals.
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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^ that's part of the reason westerners came to dominate the world. living/growing up in close quarters with animals, especially being holed up with them through harsh winters, hardened our immune system against pathogens that would later ravage aboriginals worldwide.
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The flu is nothing to laugh or make light of.

The flu is a disease that has a high rate of mutation. The flu changes. It changes fast.
Just like every other strain of the flu virus then?

H1N1 will probably turn out to be a big taco flavoured scam, just like the H5N1 was last year.
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BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Earthquake hits Mexico City

oh way to go mexico, piss god off as well while you're at it.
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mothernature View Post
The flu is nothing to laugh or make light of.

The flu is a disease that has a high rate of mutation. The flu changes. It changes fast.

The Center for Disease Control estimates that an average of 36,000 people die in the U.S. each year from flu related deaths. This is from the common, controllable types of flu.

The flu killed 50 million people in 1918. Within months, it had killed more people than any other illness in recorded history.

The plague did not discriminate. It was rampant in urban and rural areas, from the densely populated East coast to the remotest parts of Alaska. Young adults, usually unaffected by these types of infectious diseases, were among the hardest hit groups along with the elderly and young children.

Now granted, we have antibiotics now, but there are strains of flu that are resistant to treatment and with the high rate of mutation, it is not a stretch to expect the 'super flu' to come along anytime now.

Now, am I going to live in fear, hiding in my house? No.

What really gets me is that so much could be prevented if people would just wash their fucking hands. I mean, really, it only takes a few seconds and so many people just don't do it.
Back in the 1400's Scurvy was killing people left and right. It did not discriminate, anyone who was not getting any fruits and veggies was affected. Granted we have discovered vitamin C now...

Seriously? I'll leave the rest of it alone cause it pretty much got fixed and I'll just end up feeling bad.

Also the word fearmongering reminded me of scaremongering which reminded me of this:

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Old 04-27-2009, 11:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
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itt: unfounded paranoia...
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Shit's as funny as the bird flu, or SARS, but mainly SARS because it's kind of cool to say.

I don't worry about these possible epidemic type diseases/viruses/whatever because there are so many other ways I could die. You know, the news tells you about how bad the pig flue is and how it's going to kill like 100,000 people in a year or some bs that's probably never going to happen, but there are far more important things to worry about. Nuclear weapons, biological attacks, supernova, meteors are all things that could happen everday, but don't. Even things like crime, which happens everyday to millions more than the pig flu will ever affect, are overlooked by the news stations because it's so common it's become something most people care nothing about.

You have to be able to live a normal life knowing that this pig flu could kill you. Instead of worrying about catching it and featus-ing it up in your mom's basement, you just have to be able to put these terrible things out of your mind. If everybody was concerned about more common issues that are far more likely to happen to you, like dying a fiery death in a car crash, the world simply could not function.

Fuck, people put themselves in danger everyday, but then go panic about something like the bird flu. Shit's all backasswards.
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^ that's part of the reason westerners came to dominate the world. living/growing up in close quarters with animals, especially being holed up with them through harsh winters, hardened our immune system against pathogens that would later ravage aboriginals worldwide.

word mang - an overwhelming majority of large domesticable animals are/were found in eurasia, almost none in the americas and none in australia
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