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Old 05-04-2008, 09:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^^^ what you need is a stoner girlfriend.
I agree. I think thats a much better solution that trying drugs to help depression. I think drugs can only cover up the symptoms and not cure the depression. Unless its a result of some sort of chemical imbalance <-- don't think that is your case.
Not sure how old you are or what your situation but try to check out some clubs. I know my school has a lot of social/ academic organizations.
Check out the lions club. its a big organization that does service for the community. Might not be something you think you would like but it does feel good to do community service. Also if that seems like something to big. Try something smaller like on a weekend volunteer at a park clean up or something along those lines.
Finally Sorry this is long. But if you live in a big city or near one. Most street fairs or events need volunteers and these can be a lot of fun to work at. Plus usually the volunteer crowd are pretty cool.
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stick with it man. even if you cant see the point in doing something, do it anyway. (for example, meet up with that girl, go walk around somewhere, even if you know its gonna be a fuckin awkward and stupid situation)
eventually you will take a step back and realize how far youve come and how many new opportunities you have.

i didnt mean for this to come out all heady and nonpractical, but yo ugot a lot in you bud
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I agree. I think thats a much better solution that trying drugs to help depression. I think drugs can only cover up the symptoms and not cure the depression. Unless its a result of some sort of chemical imbalance <-- don't think that is your case.
Not sure how old you are or what your situation but try to check out some clubs. I know my school has a lot of social/ academic organizations.
Check out the lions club. its a big organization that does service for the community. Might not be something you think you would like but it does feel good to do community service. Also if that seems like something to big. Try something smaller like on a weekend volunteer at a park clean up or something along those lines.
Finally Sorry this is long. But if you live in a big city or near one. Most street fairs or events need volunteers and these can be a lot of fun to work at. Plus usually the volunteer crowd are pretty cool.
the last time i got caught with points, the judge ordered me $100.00, or 10 hours community service.......then I get caught with a $40 of white, i had a decent case (don't wanna go into the details now), but my lawyer said we had a %75 chance of winning the trial..... rather than drag it out and waste taxpayer money, the prosecutor initially offered me 2 years of formal probation, and a $1,000 fine.....I laughed and said, see ya in court, then they made another offer, 1 year formal probation and a $500 fine, still I refused the deal, (remember I was out on o.r. so I wasn't in a hurry to make any deals, then MY lawyer(the public pretender) said he got a deal he reccomends we take before they take it off the table..I was to do 40 hours c. service, attend an all day drug couseling class that costs $300, and stay outta trouble for 2 years......So basically I took 2 years of paper probation, and turned it into an 8 hour class that costs $300, (they worked a payment plan up) with me (instead of $300 I got it down to $50.00) and 40 hours of community service (since I'm a gimp they had me file papers for the BBB)..so it pays not to take the 1st deal on the table, but when your incarcerated you'll agree to pretty much anything (and they know that)...I finished my C.S., and don't ever wanna wear that blue CCDC uniform ever again...
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stick with it man. even if you cant see the point in doing something, do it anyway. (for example, meet up with that girl, go walk around somewhere, even if you know its gonna be a fuckin awkward and stupid situation)
eventually you will take a step back and realize how far youve come and how many new opportunities you have.

i didnt mean for this to come out all heady and nonpractical, but yo ugot a lot in you bud
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:33 PM   #25 (permalink)
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i'd take a stoner g.f. .. ive been out of a relationship for many years now, i wouldn't mind trying it again...
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i was talking to the OP but if you found some inspiration in the advice then thats all the better
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the last time i got caught with points, the judge ordered me $100.00, or 10 hours community service.......then I get caught with a $40 of white, i had a decent case (don't wanna go into the details now), but my lawyer said we had a %75 chance of winning the trial..... rather than drag it out and waste taxpayer money, the prosecutor initially offered me 2 years of formal probation, and a $1,000 fine.....I laughed and said, see ya in court, then they made another offer, 1 year formal probation and a $500 fine, still I refused the deal, (remember I was out on o.r. so I wasn't in a hurry to make any deals, then MY lawyer(the public pretender) said he got a deal he reccomends we take before they take it off the table..I was to do 40 hours c. service, attend an all day drug couseling class that costs $300, and stay outta trouble for 2 years......So basically I took 2 years of paper probation, and turned it into an 8 hour class that costs $300, (they worked a payment plan up) with me (instead of $300 I got it down to $50.00) and 40 hours of community service (since I'm a gimp they had me file papers for the BBB)..so it pays not to take the 1st deal on the table, but when your incarcerated you'll agree to pretty much anything (and they know that)...I finished my C.S., and don't ever wanna wear that blue CCDC uniform ever again...
Maybe its not for everyone. Just want to point out that volunteer events differ a lot. I had some very minor dealings with the law. All under age 18 so I was with a different system. One sort of informal thing I worked out once was that I had to do a lot of volunteer work and I did it at a food bank.
That really really sucked. If it wasn't for my friends being there with me it would of been hell. Bagging frozen food is lame.
Other events can be pleasurable.

Funny how the legal system works. It seems like everything they do is a bluff. Looks like you called theirs
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:39 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Other events can be pleasurable.

Funny how the legal system works. It seems like everything they do is a bluff. Looks like you called theirs
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I have kind of battled with this same situation. The assumption seems to be living life sober is the best thing to do, yet I end up feeling bored, depressed, hollow, like my life is not enjoyable, nothing to look forward to. I tried antidepressants/therapy but ultimately ended up filling the hole in my life with drugs. I have justified this to myself many ways but it's still something I feel guilty about and would like to change some day. But at the same time I could see going the rest of my life this way.
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I have kind of battled with this same situation. The assumption seems to be living life sober is the best thing to do, yet I end up feeling bored, depressed, hollow, like my life is not enjoyable, nothing to look forward to. I tried antidepressants/therapy but ultimately ended up filling the hole in my life with drugs. I have justified this to myself many ways but it's still something I feel guilty about and would like to change some day. But at the same time I could see going the rest of my life this way.
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:34 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Ted, when you say dope... coke, speed or h? Kinda confusingly vague.

But I'm sure you are a nice guy, I'm not going to lecture you about how shooting up dope is bad, or yadayadayada. However I think as with your problem that "you can't related to these friends because they don't do drugs". You got that exactly wrong, you shouldn't related to people because they do drugs, or they don't. Don't focus on that, relate to them by other means. Like common kind/interest/hobby/conversation/etc/etc....

Focus on that and try to find some new friends.
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i'd probably be bored hanging out with most people and not getting stoned, which is bad I guess ^ good point
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I have kind of battled with this same situation. The assumption seems to be living life sober is the best thing to do, yet I end up feeling bored, depressed, hollow, like my life is not enjoyable, nothing to look forward to. I tried antidepressants/therapy but ultimately ended up filling the hole in my life with drugs. I have justified this to myself many ways but it's still something I feel guilty about and would like to change some day. But at the same time I could see going the rest of my life this way.
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yea thats what i think too but its easier said that done in my circumstances. i have alot of anxiety and stress and low self esteem, the last thing i think i couuld do would be impress a girl. theres actually a really nice asian girl who apparently is into me but i just feel so crappy and insecure that id rather be alone than face a stressful situation. its depressing because id really love to at least get to know this girl, however i have conflicting feelings because i dont want to face a stressful situation. the only way i would be able to handle such a situation if i was fucked up, and in this case that is basically out of the question so i will just avoid the situation all together.

i mean its completely fine if i already know a person and feel comfortable, its just you know those first awkward encounters are just really hard and in the past i would get ridiculously fucked up on drugs. for example this girl asked me to her prom and i only agreed to go on the condition that i was rolling on exctasy :P it turned out to be really fun as long as i was rolling balls, however if i was sober it would have been stressful as fuck. its sad, and i dont want to have to take drugs to feel ok, but unfortunately thats just the way i have been in the past.

i guess im trying to change but its really difficult.

i'm serious ted, you analyze EVERY little thing you do, and you need to relieve the stress it causes..i'm in the same boat with you.....lets jump ship...(metaphorical ly speaking of course) even tho I get prescribed drugs, I'm addicted to the process of copping.....etc..... *sigh* i think weed is helpful in stimulating the parts of the brain we destroyed w/ our opiate use......
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will sneak up on you and give you a habit, when you don't have 1.fuck im noddin at these keys, good thing i'm not driving...........
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you have to stop the opiates, because they will kill you by destroying your vital organs. you need a good friend or girlfriend that will stay with you 100%--or close-- of the time and give you support and make sure you dont slip for a few months minimum. doing the proper mushroom ceremony and reset your brain and make you want the addictive toxins less...but you have to do it in the proper shamanic fashion with silence, meditation, ideal serene/quiet environment, fasting, and H20/citrus. try to get s prescription and use herb as a last resort if willpower is weak, but not the cigs or opiates. good luck
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