Smoking and depression :(

KiefOnMyLeaf · 11-18-2007, 01:02 PM

Smoking...

-Makes me depressed
-Gives me horrible thoughts about my past which I can easily let go of when I'm sober
-Isolates me from the few friends that I have
-Makes me feel out of it, especially the next day
-Makes me irritable and pissy about the trivial things in life
-Makes me unmotivated to do ANYTHING besides play video games and eat
-Disallows me to meditate, which is currently my best way of dealing with anxiety
-Makes me not give a shit about anybody except MYSELF

I just wanted to get that out there. I'm quitting.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics · 11-18-2007, 01:19 PM

and people here say weed is harmless. weed did all those things to me as well before i quit.

anaujiram · 11-18-2007, 02:28 PM

Yet I think it would still be wise to keep in mind that for MANY people, this is not the case.

fenderbender · 11-18-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Second Law of Thermodynamics

and people here say weed is harmless. weed did all those things to me as well before i quit.

weed doesnt seem like its causing those problems...just bringing them to the surface probably...

seems like its the person not the plant

msicidron · 11-18-2007, 02:48 PM

man i'm sorry. I guess weed can have some seriously bad effects on some. Although I think you must be somewhat preconditioned toward these feelings. I wish you could enjoy its benefits as much as I do.

my_scatterheart · 11-19-2007, 07:20 PM

It's the same as differing reactions to prescribed medications.
Sorry to hear this man, but at least you've enough to know to stay away from it now. Glad that you're stopping yourself...

Mafoo · 11-19-2007, 07:55 PM

its not the weed doing it to you, the weed is your friend, and its just showing you that you have some things you need to deal with.

ive been in the same spot. figure out what is really making you depressed.

-Illfaded- · 11-19-2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiefOnMyLeaf

Smoking...

-Makes me depressed
-Gives me horrible thoughts about my past which I can easily let go of when I'm sober
-Isolates me from the few friends that I have
-Makes me feel out of it, especially the next day
-Makes me irritable and pissy about the trivial things in life
-Makes me unmotivated to do ANYTHING besides play video games and eat
-Disallows me to meditate, which is currently my best way of dealing with anxiety
-Makes me not give a shit about anybody except MYSELF

I just wanted to get that out there. I'm quitting.

it does all that to me now too. i'll add that is makes me nervous and gives me anxiety attacks around people and makes me not able to talk at all or carry on a conversation with people after i smoke it. it never used to be that way and im not sure what caused it.. i wish i knew so i could work on fixing the problem. it fucking sucks.

Xil · 11-19-2007, 07:59 PM

Weed effects everyone differently.
For some people it makes them depressed and unhappy.
For me the occasional stress relief and meditation catalyst helps me to live without overwhelmingly frequent thoughts of suicide and depression.
To each their own, find what works for you.

roll · 11-19-2007, 07:59 PM

LOL @ 'the weed is your friend'

you're all floating on illusions IMO. come to the dark side..at least is REAL

Xil · 11-19-2007, 08:00 PM

^what do you mean by REAL?

roll · 11-19-2007, 08:06 PM

*gives up hope*

Xil · 11-19-2007, 08:09 PM

Interesting, the one living the 'clean life' can't manage intelligent discussion.

Or is it just weed making me dumb?

The Second Law of Thermodynamics · 11-19-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fenderbender

weed doesnt seem like its causing those problems...just bringing them to the surface probably...

seems like its the person not the plant

yeah, just like alcohol doesn't cause hangovers. it just "brings them to the surface".

Waves · 11-19-2007, 10:30 PM

theres a difference between physiological responses to chemicals and psychological responses to chemicals. a hangover would be physiological, you cant stop it from happening if you drink too much.

something like depression and weed making him pissed off is more psychological. probably has to do with issues that are unrelated to cannabis. thats the point fender was making.

some of the things on that list could be directly attributed to pot smoking but the majority seem to be some other issue that he would probably be better off working out than blaming weed. thats my point.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics · 11-19-2007, 10:55 PM

most drugs that cause euphoria are capable of causing a subsequent negative mood shift. im not saying weed can't bring out underlying issues, im saying it's absurd to deny that weed can be the cause of a negative physiological or psychological state. also, your physiological and psychological states are intrinsically linked. basically what im saying is, if you smoke too much weed, it can have negative affects on you and this isn't always because it's bringing underlying issues to the surface.

~LegalizeIt~ · 11-22-2007, 08:38 PM

The last 4 you mentioned are complete bullshit. But i can see how it can hinder your communication with friends, " hey bro you wanna come chill with us after school?" " Nah man i got homework(I wanna smoke)." No one ever said weed was perfect. It is a drug and any drug can fuck around with your brain functions, but with weed it takes a long period of use for it take effect on your daily life.

jkrane · 11-23-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Second Law of Thermodynamics

and people here say weed is harmless. weed did all those things to me as well before i quit.

same with me...

then I started up again bongsmilie

The Second Law of Thermodynamics · 11-23-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~LegalizeIt~

The last 4 you mentioned are complete bullshit. But i can see how it can hinder your communication with friends, " hey bro you wanna come chill with us after school?" " Nah man i got homework(I wanna smoke)." No one ever said weed was perfect. It is a drug and any drug can fuck around with your brain functions, but with weed it takes a long period of use for it take effect on your daily life.

how can you tell someone their experience is bullshit? that's bullshit if you ask me.

Jake_Armstrong · 11-23-2007, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiefOnMyLeaf

Smoking...

-Makes me depressed
-Gives me horrible thoughts about my past which I can easily let go of when I'm sober
-Isolates me from the few friends that I have
-Makes me feel out of it, especially the next day
-Makes me irritable and pissy about the trivial things in life
-Makes me unmotivated to do ANYTHING besides play video games and eat
-Disallows me to meditate, which is currently my best way of dealing with anxiety
-Makes me not give a shit about anybody except MYSELF

I just wanted to get that out there. I'm quitting.

If smoking pot dosnt make you happy.... dont smoke pot.

11-18-2007, 01:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
KiefOnMyLeaf YaHookan Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Smoking and depression :( Smoking... -Makes me depressed -Gives me horrible thoughts about my past which I can easily let go of when I'm sober -Isolates me from the few friends that I have -Makes me feel out of it, especially the next day -Makes me irritable and pissy about the trivial things in life -Makes me unmotivated to do ANYTHING besides play video games and eat -Disallows me to meditate, which is currently my best way of dealing with anxiety -Makes me not give a shit about anybody except MYSELF I just wanted to get that out there. I'm quitting.

11-18-2007, 01:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
The Second Law of Thermodynamics YaHookan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 2,114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	and people here say weed is harmless. weed did all those things to me as well before i quit. __________________ "blurs are not fun. Especially when you havn't seen your pet for a while, think it's down on the floor and try petting it." - wiseco sponsore

11-18-2007, 02:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
msicidron YaHookan Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sicily 8, The Mob Planet Posts: 526 Thanks: 7 Thanked 40 Times in 34 Posts	man i'm sorry. I guess weed can have some seriously bad effects on some. Although I think you must be somewhat preconditioned toward these feelings. I wish you could enjoy its benefits as much as I do. __________________ ///////////////////////////////////////////////////

11-19-2007, 07:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 290 Thanks: 31 Thanked 41 Times in 31 Posts	It's the same as differing reactions to prescribed medications. Sorry to hear this man, but at least you've enough to know to stay away from it now. Glad that you're stopping yourself... __________________ You are beautiful.

11-19-2007, 07:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: a crazy place called my mind Posts: 1,463 Thanks: 78 Thanked 70 Times in 59 Posts	its not the weed doing it to you, the weed is your friend, and its just showing you that you have some things you need to deal with. ive been in the same spot. figure out what is really making you depressed. __________________ PLUR "Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens" Hendrix "A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger"- words to live by

11-19-2007, 07:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Xil OD'ing on sobriety Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: STL, MO Posts: 1,109 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 46 Thanked 68 Times in 48 Posts	Weed effects everyone differently. For some people it makes them depressed and unhappy. For me the occasional stress relief and meditation catalyst helps me to live without overwhelmingly frequent thoughts of suicide and depression. To each their own, find what works for you. __________________ ᚘ SMOKE ᚘ ൈ MORE ൈ ం FATTY ం దౡ NUGS ౡ Your wise men don;t know how it feels... The godless shall genuflect as the holy men fall from grace.

11-19-2007, 07:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
roll YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	LOL @ 'the weed is your friend' you're all floating on illusions IMO. come to the dark side..at least is REAL

11-19-2007, 08:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Xil OD'ing on sobriety Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: STL, MO Posts: 1,109 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 46 Thanked 68 Times in 48 Posts	^what do you mean by REAL? __________________ ᚘ SMOKE ᚘ ൈ MORE ൈ ం FATTY ం దౡ NUGS ౡ Your wise men don;t know how it feels... The godless shall genuflect as the holy men fall from grace.

11-19-2007, 08:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
roll YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	gives up hope

11-19-2007, 08:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
Xil OD'ing on sobriety Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: STL, MO Posts: 1,109 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 46 Thanked 68 Times in 48 Posts	Interesting, the one living the 'clean life' can't manage intelligent discussion. Or is it just weed making me dumb? __________________ ᚘ SMOKE ᚘ ൈ MORE ൈ ం FATTY ం దౡ NUGS ౡ Your wise men don;t know how it feels... The godless shall genuflect as the holy men fall from grace.

11-19-2007, 10:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Waves YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 9,877 Thanks: 64 Thanked 298 Times in 192 Posts	theres a difference between physiological responses to chemicals and psychological responses to chemicals. a hangover would be physiological, you cant stop it from happening if you drink too much. something like depression and weed making him pissed off is more psychological. probably has to do with issues that are unrelated to cannabis. thats the point fender was making. some of the things on that list could be directly attributed to pot smoking but the majority seem to be some other issue that he would probably be better off working out than blaming weed. thats my point. __________________ Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. -George Carlin

11-19-2007, 10:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
The Second Law of Thermodynamics YaHookan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 2,114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	most drugs that cause euphoria are capable of causing a subsequent negative mood shift. im not saying weed can't bring out underlying issues, im saying it's absurd to deny that weed can be the cause of a negative physiological or psychological state. also, your physiological and psychological states are intrinsically linked. basically what im saying is, if you smoke too much weed, it can have negative affects on you and this isn't always because it's bringing underlying issues to the surface. __________________ "blurs are not fun. Especially when you havn't seen your pet for a while, think it's down on the floor and try petting it." - wiseco sponsore Last edited by The Second Law of Thermodynamics; 11-19-2007 at 10:57 PM.

11-22-2007, 08:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
~LegalizeIt~ Tasting Fractals Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 924 Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	The last 4 you mentioned are complete bullshit. But i can see how it can hinder your communication with friends, " hey bro you wanna come chill with us after school?" " Nah man i got homework(I wanna smoke)." No one ever said weed was perfect. It is a drug and any drug can fuck around with your brain functions, but with weed it takes a long period of use for it take effect on your daily life.