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Old 02-12-2008, 05:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ibogaine is a naturally-occurring psychoactive compound found in a number of plants in nature, principally in a member of the dogbane family known as iboga (Tabernanthe iboga). Ibogaine-containing preparations are used in medicinal and ritual purposes by African spiritual traditions of the Bwiti who claim to have learned it from the Pygmy. In recent times it has been identified as having anti-addictive properties
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This pioneering and comprehensive rehabilitation program uses a revolutionary drug, Ibogaine, in combination with new behavioral interventions and time-tested techniques.
The first thought that came to me when someone sent me this info is.............The drug companies might see this as a "Cure" or alternative as opposed to their "meds".
Then I thought..........I wonder if I could grow this under the right conditions!


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Old 02-12-2008, 05:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Anything when first discovered is anti-addicting, but just as pot isn't psychically addicting, a user will get used to the effects and seek them out on a more constant basis...It would be great to find a miracle cure all but as long as greed feeds the machine of the pharmacy trade rather than relief, we are stuck in the quagmire of "relief at what cost"...Good luck if you are able to grow it and please share any experiences...
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Old 02-12-2008, 07:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The visual phase is characterized by open-eye visuals, closed-eye visuals, and dreamlike sequences. Objects may be seen as distorted, projecting tracers, or having moving colors or textures. With the eyes closed, extremely detailed and vivid geometric and fractal visions may be seen. Subjective reports often include a movie-like recollection of earlier life experiences as well as dreamlike sequences with symbolism of one's present or anticipated future. Other effects in the visionary phase may include laughing, sensations of euphoria or fear, and temporary short-term memory impairment. The visionary phase usually ends after 1-4 hours, after which the introspective phase begins.

The introspective phase is typically reported to bring elevated mood, a sense of calm and euphoria, and a distinct intellectual and emotional clarity. Subjects often report being able to accomplish deep emotional and intellectual introspection into psychological and emotional concerns. It is also during this period that opioid addicts first notice the absence of withdrawal cravings. The duration of the introspective phase is highly variable, usually lasting hours but sometimes lasting days.

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Old 02-12-2008, 07:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mя. Gяiєvєs View Post
Anything when first discovered is anti-addicting, but just as pot isn't psychically addicting, a user will get used to the effects and seek them out on a more constant basis...It would be great to find a miracle cure all but as long as greed feeds the machine of the pharmacy trade rather than relief, we are stuck in the quagmire of "relief at what cost"...Good luck if you are able to grow it and please share any experiences...
i think anti-addicting is meant in the sense that it is used to treat opiate addictions
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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read a lot of conflicting things about tabernathe iboga...people are still out to lunch on this one...legit therapy is exceedingly expensive and not everyone is a candidate for ibogaine treatment...but things are changing...yes it will grow, you can even find related ibogaine containing plants that are legal to grow...
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I stick to the tried and true cocaine method of ridding my opiate addiction.
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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They advertise this on bluelight, the treatment costs are ridiculous.
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Old 02-14-2008, 12:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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sounds to me like a (slight) combination of mushrooms and acid. they have, to some degree, almost all of those characteristics.

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The visual phase is characterized by open-eye visuals, closed-eye visuals, and dreamlike sequences. Objects may be seen as distorted, projecting tracers, or having moving colors or textures. With the eyes closed, extremely detailed and vivid geometric and fractal visions may be seen.
acid.

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Subjective reports often include a movie-like recollection of earlier life experiences as well as dreamlike sequences with symbolism of one's present or anticipated future.
mushrooms.

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Other effects in the visionary phase may include laughing, sensations of euphoria or fear, and temporary short-term memory impairment. The visionary phase usually ends after 1-4 hours, after which the introspective phase begins.
both, the latter half more mushrooms. (I've never gotten very introspective on acid)

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The introspective phase is typically reported to bring elevated mood, a sense of calm and euphoria, and a distinct intellectual and emotional clarity. Subjects often report being able to accomplish deep emotional and intellectual introspection into psychological and emotional concerns
again, moreso mushrooms (for me) as that's the only thing that's made me think in quite that way.

as far as getting a grasp on other addictions, I think this would work in the same respect that acid/mushrooms (moreso mushrooms, from my experience) would. once the introspective phase hits and you see everything from a "3rd person" perspective it becomes a lot easier to see what you're doing wrong and what you need to do to help yourself.

in short, I think therapeutic use would be about the same as if somebody, with self help in mind, ate some mushrooms.

as far as growing it goes.... have at it, and send me some
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 12:43 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I've never had "movie like recollections of earlier life events" on mushrooms.
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I have. maybe not in that exact meaning, not like.. I have no idea what's goin on and I'm just watchin this happen.. but, in the right mindset after a few hours of shrooming, I've gotten "flashbacks" of sorts. not exactly flashbacks, but (because of the state of mind) memories of things that, as I've imagined them I've seen them.

feel free to disagree, but I see the similarities.
 
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Originally Posted by Mя. Gяiєvєs View Post
Anything when first discovered is anti-addicting, but just as pot isn't psychically addicting, a user will get used to the effects and seek them out on a more constant basis...It would be great to find a miracle cure all but as long as greed feeds the machine of the pharmacy trade rather than relief, we are stuck in the quagmire of "relief at what cost"...Good luck if you are able to grow it and please share any experiences...
/nice.

you like to say i fail all the time? you fail grieves. you fail.

"like, omgz, you don't get the urge to be all psychic like jon edwards when you smoke the pot?"

"nah.."
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