LED Grow! - Page 2

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 04-30-2008, 08:10 PM

Alright! So the LED"S have arrived and I must say they are quite the bright ones. I waited all day for the UPS guy and he obviously didn't stop at my house till 5 in the afternoon. When they got here though I felt alot better. Anyways I haven't set them up where the grow will actually take place, but I thought what the hell lets throw them under two lights till we are at 100% in the attic. Anyways guys here is what 148 bucks can get you from ebay. Now lets get this show on the road and put these bitches to the test. I'm tired So tommorow will have more but here's couple pics. Enjoy!

InAJar · 04-30-2008, 08:41 PM

Awesome! Are you using any more light than that or is that all you are using?

Also, can you change the output of red to blue?

Shaggy_420 · 04-30-2008, 08:42 PM

yes i was refering to topping
i couldnt think of the word

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 04-30-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy_420

yes i was refering to topping
i couldnt think of the word

LOL, all good shaggy. Anyways inAjar For now I'm just using these two panels until tommorow when I can get up in th room and get it all set up. I'm thinking I will run these two plants Under all four panels until I have clipped and rooted clones and they are ready for flowering. When flowering cycles begin, I'm thinking I'm going to split the lights. Two for veg and keeping the mothers alive and two for flowering clones. Maybe even just have one panel for the mothers and three for the flowering. Now as far as switching out the lights so I can have two panels for majority blue spectrum and two panels red spectrum everyone is going to have to wait for tommorow because I have not done anything but plug them in and get pics for you. I have been gone since they got here and haven't even gotten to work with em. Dont get me wrong im excited but I'm also completely exhausted. No worries we will get all these questions answered. One more thing, I think I am making a change from a scrog grow to BUd popcycles. I have faith that I can effectively and properly produce (With you guy's help) Some nice budcycles. It will make the session go a little quicker as far as a complete grow.

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 05-05-2008, 10:18 AM

Ok so it's monday and time to update. It's been a little over two weeks since they were planted and they have been under the LED's for a little under a week. I have noticed new sprouts of branches on the little one and the big one as well. but when I pulled them out from under the lights and outside for a better look I noticed the leaves were yellowing out a bit and looking pretty weak. I'm not ready to think the lights are to weak due to the new growth so the only thing I could think of wrong was 1 ph level was high and two no drainage. So I repotted them to new pots and when I pulled them out of thier first pots I did notice on the little one very little root growth and very moist all the way down and same went with the bigger one. They are now sitting in the shade on the porch for some recovery, they are no doubt in shock. I'm confident they will spurt and start taking off by the end of this week. Here are some pics. Right now I'm kind of making due with what I got but My wife is getting the 900 bucks for the stimulus as well as for my daughter. I'm getting a seperate check for 600 in the next month. My thought so far on this op is the LED"S seem to be a little more towards hydro due to the fact that almost noevaporation occurs and the soil just stays moist. As for soil it it isn't impossible so far just a little more work. keep you guys updated. Dont start judging yet either. Oh and the ladies are in completely new soil so ph is no longer an issue.

newbiegreengrow · 05-05-2008, 06:34 PM

I bought the same exact LED panel package, and ordered some deisel ryder (lo-ryder)
seeds to experiment with. I might add a couple of CFL lamps to augment the LED panels.
I can tell what you mean, though by being more for hydro... there's no (or very little)heat from these things!
maybe a straing well suited for humid climates?
Dunno.
I don't have the desire to go with hydro at the moment, but have thought about it... seems like a lot to frig with, ya know?

newbiegreengrow · 05-05-2008, 06:38 PM

by the way... how's the parrafin bath workin out?

InAJar · 05-05-2008, 08:40 PM

I was looking on another forum where someone had a grow blog about using LED lights. This person had a really elaborate setup. The most prominent difference I noticed, TheNeedForWeed, between yours and that person's is that you have far less LED panels. This person has a good crop going and the weed looks awesome under the pink and blue lights. However, their entire room is filled with LED's. Let me try and find it for you. I couldn't find it. However, I started this thread that is ongoing so check it out.

Please all your LED info here: - Marijuana Growing

**Cerebro** · 05-06-2008, 07:17 AM

Yeah, looks like you drowned the roots.
As long as the soil retains air spaces then the roots will be OK, this is where alot of the transfers take place. Organic matter is the best way to retain and grow air space in your soil, so consider feeding with some compost, if you have any, or worm castings etc.
The balcony is a good spot for them, let them harden off in the shade than get stuck in again. Hopefully they'll bounce back.
Plants will still use water regardless of temps, so it's just a matter of less watering. I dont think soil will be a problem for LED users. But no drainage is a problem for all growers.

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 05-06-2008, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InAJar

I was looking on another forum where someone had a grow blog about using LED lights. This person had a really elaborate setup. The most prominent difference I noticed, TheNeedForWeed, between yours and that person's is that you have far less LED panels. This person has a good crop going and the weed looks awesome under the pink and blue lights. However, their entire room is filled with LED's. Let me try and find it for you. I couldn't find it. However, I started this thread that is ongoing so check it out.

Please all your LED info here: - Marijuana Growing

Yeah I saw one I think I posted a link for it but The guy had far less than what I have and is producing a good personal yield.. Difference is I'm only growing 2 plants. and they are mothers. when they get bigger I can just throw em under a floro and clone clone clone. I'm thinking im not going to be flowering anymore than 4. I also decided (cerebro) that I'm going to do the budcycles instead. I dont need as many. newbie think I could get some pics of your setup on here. I want to compare so I can maybe make some changes to my plan. I haven't set the lights the way I want em yet. How is your grow coming along with these? Cerebro thanx for verification, thats exactly what I was thinking. thought a little rienforcment of my thoughts would be a plus so thanx.

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 05-06-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by newbiegreengrow

by the way... how's the parrafin bath workin out?

LOL that thing is fucking crazy. my wife got it from a friend and uses it all the time. I love it when she uses it on her hands right before she &*^%* my ^%$# it feels like a different woman lol. No really it's cool one night I got bored and dipped my hand like 60 times. my arm was sore the next day. evidently it is theraputic so whatever. I'm looking at it like a perfect smuggling utensil.

newbiegreengrow · 05-06-2008, 12:54 PM

I haven't started yet... still waiting on the beans.
I'll be sure to snap off a few pics, though.
should start up in the next week.

newbiegreengrow · 05-06-2008, 12:56 PM

cerebro, perlite, and maybe a scoopful of sand in the soil?
what would your recommendation be for proper drainage using the LEDs?

davidhseo · 05-06-2008, 01:15 PM

Your grow room looks like a rave party or something, haha. Thats so tite though how u can grow with LED lights now.

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 05-06-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidhseo

Your grow room looks like a rave party or something, haha. Thats so tite though how u can grow with LED lights now.

Iknow, lol. I'm hoping it works well. It seems like LED"S is going to take some practice. but after the grower gets his system tweaked it looks to be beneficial.

**Cerebro** · 05-07-2008, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbiegreengrow

cerebro, perlite, and maybe a scoopful of sand in the soil?
what would your recommendation be for proper drainage using the LEDs?

I think the idea of them being better suited to hydro is correct, clay pellets or rockwool would be good.
But I've only ever grown in soil, so it's all I know about.
I make my own compost, and have a small worm farm, so organics are easy for me.
I would be looking for any soil improvers containing humic acid also, it's works as a water regulator. Small amounts of manure, blood and bone, seaweed, that sort of stuff. Topsoil dressing (like lucerne) is know to help retain moisture, but if the soil is saturated, or too wet, it will draw some of that excess out for you. Nature has it's own tricks.......I'd probably add some perlite though, maybe 20%

**Captain Cannabis** · 05-07-2008, 09:29 AM

awesome thread thanks for sharing

i've always wondered if quality plants could be grown with leds and i suppose we will soon have an answer.

moar pics?

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 05-07-2008, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerebro

I think the idea of them being better suited to hydro is correct, clay pellets or rockwool would be good.
But I've only ever grown in soil, so it's all I know about.
I make my own compost, and have a small worm farm, so organics are easy for me.
I would be looking for any soil improvers containing humic acid also, it's works as a water regulator. Small amounts of manure, blood and bone, seaweed, that sort of stuff. Topsoil dressing (like lucerne) is know to help retain moisture, but if the soil is saturated, or too wet, it will draw some of that excess out for you. Nature has it's own tricks.......I'd probably add some perlite though, maybe 20%

yeah i actually put about an inch of perlite at the bottom then filled the rest of the pot with 50% soil and 50% perlite. It seems like it is working well. By the way guys an update on the subjects.... The smaller one is deffinately making progress but sloooooowly. the taller one is pumping a new set of leaves out as we speak as well but quicker. I'm hoping they will be back up to speed by mon.

newbiegreengrow · 05-08-2008, 02:33 AM

Hey, Theneed...
I'll be making my growhut this weekend...
I'd like to post some pics as well...
I don't mean to hyjak yer thread, so I'll probably start a new LED grow log as well,
we can compare notes, too if you'd like, just to add info, or get input from others.
I think this might be pretty cool for all those who were wondering.

ThEnEeD4DaWeEd · 05-08-2008, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbiegreengrow

Hey, Theneed...
I'll be making my growhut this weekend...
I'd like to post some pics as well...
I don't mean to hyjak yer thread, so I'll probably start a new LED grow log as well,
we can compare notes, too if you'd like, just to add info, or get input from others.
I think this might be pretty cool for all those who were wondering.

Man you can throw anything you want in here. I'm just trying to get healthy enough plants to grow under the LED's . I would deffinately like to worth with ya on this because seeing we are using same exact lighting , It might make a little more sense to tweak our systems together.

04-30-2008, 08:10 PM	#21 (permalink)
ThEnEeD4DaWeEd TheManWithDaPlan! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Right behind you! Posts: 215 Thanks: 69 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Alright! So the LED"S have arrived and I must say they are quite the bright ones. I waited all day for the UPS guy and he obviously didn't stop at my house till 5 in the afternoon. When they got here though I felt alot better. Anyways I haven't set them up where the grow will actually take place, but I thought what the hell lets throw them under two lights till we are at 100% in the attic. Anyways guys here is what 148 bucks can get you from ebay. Now lets get this show on the road and put these bitches to the test. I'm tired So tommorow will have more but here's couple pics. Enjoy! Attached Images

04-30-2008, 08:41 PM	#22 (permalink)
InAJar Ohm Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 343 Thanks: 26 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	Awesome! Are you using any more light than that or is that all you are using? Also, can you change the output of red to blue? __________________ He'll give you breathing holes and you'll think you're happy.

04-30-2008, 08:42 PM	#23 (permalink)
Shaggy_420 Marijuana Consumer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NV Posts: 876 Thanks: 203 Thanked 69 Times in 37 Posts	yes i was refering to topping i couldnt think of the word __________________ "Penalties against the possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself... Nowhere is this more clear to me than in the laws against possession of marijuana... Therefore, I support legislation amending federal law to eliminate all federal criminal penalties for the possession of up to 1 oz. of marijuana." - Jimmy Carter, Former President & Nobel Peace Prize Winner

05-05-2008, 10:18 AM	#25 (permalink)
ThEnEeD4DaWeEd TheManWithDaPlan! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Right behind you! Posts: 215 Thanks: 69 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Ok so it's monday and time to update. It's been a little over two weeks since they were planted and they have been under the LED's for a little under a week. I have noticed new sprouts of branches on the little one and the big one as well. but when I pulled them out from under the lights and outside for a better look I noticed the leaves were yellowing out a bit and looking pretty weak. I'm not ready to think the lights are to weak due to the new growth so the only thing I could think of wrong was 1 ph level was high and two no drainage. So I repotted them to new pots and when I pulled them out of thier first pots I did notice on the little one very little root growth and very moist all the way down and same went with the bigger one. They are now sitting in the shade on the porch for some recovery, they are no doubt in shock. I'm confident they will spurt and start taking off by the end of this week. Here are some pics. Right now I'm kind of making due with what I got but My wife is getting the 900 bucks for the stimulus as well as for my daughter. I'm getting a seperate check for 600 in the next month. My thought so far on this op is the LED"S seem to be a little more towards hydro due to the fact that almost noevaporation occurs and the soil just stays moist. As for soil it it isn't impossible so far just a little more work. keep you guys updated. Dont start judging yet either. Oh and the ladies are in completely new soil so ph is no longer an issue. Attached Images

05-05-2008, 08:40 PM	#28 (permalink)
InAJar Ohm Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 343 Thanks: 26 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	I was looking on another forum where someone had a grow blog about using LED lights. This person had a really elaborate setup. The most prominent difference I noticed, TheNeedForWeed, between yours and that person's is that you have far less LED panels. This person has a good crop going and the weed looks awesome under the pink and blue lights. However, their entire room is filled with LED's. Let me try and find it for you. I couldn't find it. However, I started this thread that is ongoing so check it out. Please all your LED info here: - Marijuana Growing __________________ He'll give you breathing holes and you'll think you're happy.

05-05-2008, 06:34 PM	#26 (permalink)
newbiegreengrow YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Van Down By The River Posts: 250 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I bought the same exact LED panel package, and ordered some deisel ryder (lo-ryder) seeds to experiment with. I might add a couple of CFL lamps to augment the LED panels. I can tell what you mean, though by being more for hydro... there's no (or very little)heat from these things! maybe a straing well suited for humid climates? Dunno. I don't have the desire to go with hydro at the moment, but have thought about it... seems like a lot to frig with, ya know?

05-05-2008, 06:38 PM	#27 (permalink)
newbiegreengrow YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Van Down By The River Posts: 250 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	by the way... how's the parrafin bath workin out?

05-06-2008, 12:54 PM	#32 (permalink)
newbiegreengrow YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Van Down By The River Posts: 250 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I haven't started yet... still waiting on the beans. I'll be sure to snap off a few pics, though. should start up in the next week.

05-06-2008, 12:56 PM	#33 (permalink)
newbiegreengrow YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Van Down By The River Posts: 250 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	cerebro, perlite, and maybe a scoopful of sand in the soil? what would your recommendation be for proper drainage using the LEDs?

05-06-2008, 01:15 PM	#34 (permalink)
davidhseo YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 148 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	Your grow room looks like a rave party or something, haha. Thats so tite though how u can grow with LED lights now.

05-07-2008, 09:29 AM	#37 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis i hate emus Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: oslo Posts: 10,210 Thanks: 276 Thanked 241 Times in 166 Posts	awesome thread thanks for sharing i've always wondered if quality plants could be grown with leds and i suppose we will soon have an answer. moar pics? __________________ fuck the monkeys

05-08-2008, 02:33 AM	#39 (permalink)
newbiegreengrow YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Van Down By The River Posts: 250 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hey, Theneed... I'll be making my growhut this weekend... I'd like to post some pics as well... I don't mean to hyjak yer thread, so I'll probably start a new LED grow log as well, we can compare notes, too if you'd like, just to add info, or get input from others. I think this might be pretty cool for all those who were wondering.