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[Jesus H. Christ]

The Lord's latest children are about 4 weeks old. 8 plants. I think it's (5) Ceres Fruity Thai and (3) G13 Skunk (the G13's came free with another order.) I forgot to label the pots, and I don't remember how many of which germinated though, so I don't know which is what at this point. It should be easier to identify them as they get a little older.

Biggest difference between this grow and all previous is that the Holy Groweth room is completely insulated, and the vent fan is triggered by a temp relay. It's making it very easy to maintain proper temps. Last night OAT was 40F, High and low peaks in the room were 73F and 67F.

So far, so good.

Peace & Love
J.H.C.

[stoneric]

Room should be enclosed with walls that reflect light.

[stonerkid]

4 weeks!?
i dont grow indoors but that sounds like a long ass time for them lill girls!
what kinda dirts and ferts are you using, how many lumens/light schedule ?

[Dandaweedman]

The LJHC should post his entire setup at the beginning so his children can pick on him a bit... I mean help.
Hate to get hit by lightening.

[Jesus H. Christ]

Originally Posted by Dandaweedman

The LJHC should post his entire setup at the beginning so his children can pick on him a bit... I mean help.
Hate to get hit by lightening.

It's the old man who throweth the lightning bolts. The Lord just yells a lot and kicketh people out of the temple when he gets mad.

* Germination was started 11/2, sprouts transplanted to soil in cups 11/8, seedlings transplanted to big pots 11/15
* Soil is Foxfarm with additional perlite, 75/25 soil/perlite
* 3 gallon containers
* 430W Philips son agro on light rail, 30" travel, 24 second delay, about 20" above pots
* Room is about 8'x16'x8'
* Veg fert: Fish/molasses, 2.1,0.2,6.6, 1 ml/lt
* Water pH 6.0
* Room maintains 66-82F, 40-70% humidity, OAT's are hitting the low 40's at night, and very very dry. Environment is California Sierra foothills, elev. 2,000
* heat (for now) is generated only by the lamp only, humidity from a DIY Rube Goldberg dog waterer with sponges and small fan
* As the OAT's drop and the lamp goes off during the day, heat will be maintained by an oil radiator space heater on temp relay
* carbon filter is currently disconnected - very little stink at this point

To the peanut gallery (you cruel bastards!):

1) Yes, the Lord doth knoweth the room should be reflective. You should see all the gallons and gallons of flat white paint - underneath all that beautiful new insulation. (Kicks self in ass...) It'll eventually get painted again, but it's not dark at all, as the photos suggest. The apparent darkness is the result of trying to get decent photos under the HPS.

2) If your children are much bigger than this in 25 days, the Lord can only wondreth if you're counting germination and sprouting/seedling time... or if maybe your memory is erm... affected? The plants go almost dormant upstairs when transplanted into the big pots, while growth concentrates on the roots playing around in all that dirt... but you knew that, right?

Peace & Love
J.H.C.

[stonerkid]

what sorta fox farm?
i think that sounds a lill hot to! (83! damn!)
im damn shure ive seen plants bigger then that FROM SEED in 25 days !
its called the sub tropics

[Dandaweedman]

Ummm hang on.... Isn't the mad russian at about 12 days or something?
Like JHC states, probably growing into those big assed pots

[Jesus H. Christ]

Originally Posted by stonerkid

what sorta fox farm?
i think that sounds a lill hot to! (83! damn!)
im damn shure ive seen plants bigger then that FROM SEED in 25 days !
its called the sub tropics

Foxfarm... I don't know. Foxfarm. It came in a bag. It said Foxfarm.

Damn. The Lord findeth himself all thin skinned overly-sensitive as regards his children! (hangs head) I am a big pussy. Damn.

Sub tropics. Hmmm. Damn.

Peace & Love
J.H.C.

[Dandaweedman]

I think there are a few types of fox farm. Don't worry bout the thin skin, it gets sorted

Noone is perfect and even the pros fuck grows up every once in a while.
Now an inspirational song...

You'll find that by the 3rd or 4th clone run through flower that you will get a better smoke than the first run from seed.
Takes a while to get things to where the ladies swoon

[stoneric]

Sorry lord. I don't want to be pissing you off. I can understand the walls but it looks like there is a small fridge in same room as plants. Alot of light being wasted.

[Jesus H. Christ]

Originally Posted by stoneric

Sorry lord. I don't want to be pissing you off. I can understand the walls but it looks like there is a small fridge in same room as plants. Alot of light being wasted.

That complex machine only looks like a fridge. In reality it's a verily high techeth germination/seedling chamber... soon to be converted into a Mother Station.

http://www.yahooka.com/forum/farmers...rigerator.html

Damn damn damn. You critics are weareth me down. All right, I'll break out the paint sprayer.

God, I hate to paint. I hopeth you're satisfied!

Peace & Love
J.H.C.

[v3d4]

the point about the fridge is that you have a large space where light is going away and not making it to the plants, so it would be better to have a white wall right there reflecting light back.

when you are finished painting, here are 2 other things to think about: plants seem to prefer steadier temps w/o a lot of rapid fluctuation (i know you insulated but your highs/lows are a little too far apart still imo), and you might work on getting your humidity up a little more if possible.

[Dandaweedman]

Well, I would agree with you V4d3 but the temps in a certain flower room have been running 65 night time and 80 day time for a looong time
Course no Kush nor blueberry is run there either.

The RH is livable but I like mine around 12%-15% in the second half of flower because there is usually one or 2 with dense fat nugs. (threat of mould)
And just cause I like my RH to be "A" and my temps to be "B" doesn't mean anyone has to follow that. We do what we can with what we have.

Get rid of that thin skin buddy, we love to help people out and it has to be taken in the spirit it was given.
I sound really different on the phone or in person compared to my posts on the net, as I am sure most do.

Most times it's tough to read peoples actual feelings in thier posts unless they are girls

[stoneric]

Yes, that was the point. I'd section off a small part of the room and downsize the number of plants or get a much bigger lite. I also think the lord's temps are fine. 82/66 sounds like a nice summer day.

[farmergiles]

Painting is more fun than putting up mylar IMO. Then again I`d rather paint than wallpaper.

I think those temps are OK, maybe slightly better results could be gained with more consistent temps but give JC a break, he`s insulated the space and is gonna use a radiator as it gets colder, can`t really do much more without expensive aircon stuff..

[v3d4]

yes guys,
its just that for little plants, temp swing makes a bigger difference than for mature plants, and flowering plants do better with cooler nights of course.

for humidity, higher is better when theyre small (easier transpiration and less pleasant environment for bugs -especially mites) and lower humidity is better for flowering

ultimately its all about finding what works best for any given situation, and thats a learning process for everybody. i find its often a lot of little things that add up to either a good or a bad grow for me, and since its impossible or too expensive to maintain a %100 perfect growing environment, you have to compromise on some things. thats just the way it is...

so even if those plants look a little small, they look healthy and could easily make up for their size once they get acclimated and get their roots well established.
also dont forget they have sativa in them, so that will also have an effect of them starting out on the skinny side.

you just keep on keepin on hay-zeus

[farmergiles]

It`s ironic that (indoors) the humidity levels often end up being higher during flowering as the plants are bigger so give off more h2o resulting in a more humid environment.

Dig what you`re saying about the little things adding up v3d4, there`s certainly truf in that.

[Jesus H. Christ]

Hokay. The Lord just couldn't standeth the thought of painting the whole Goddamn room (again) so I made a little ghetto compromise.

I'm not too concerned about temp swings of 10 degrees or so. I grew last winter without insulation, and the swings were 30+. Still had a lovely harvest, just took a long time to finish.

As for the bigger lamp, I have a 1,000W switchable MH/HPS but the meter flies when that kid is fired up. I want to see how this grow turns out with the 430W on the rail. I don't expect all 8 plants to be female... of course, that would be nice!

Peace & Love
J.H.C.

[Jesus H. Christ]

Originally Posted by v3d4

...plants seem to prefer steadier temps w/o a lot of rapid fluctuation...

Well... Just for you (or me, I suppose,) I did(eth) some adjustments with the room venting yesterday evening.
6:00PM OAT 52F
6:12AM OAT 37F
6:12AM room temp: 70.3F
peaks from 6:00PM to 6:12AM: max 73.6, min 70.3

How's that for consistency?!

I don't have RH on the remote sensor. I'll take a peek and maybe a photo or two after I get enough coffee in me to man up for the shrivel walk out to the Groweth Shack. I'll be curious to see if there's been a veg explosion in there overnight - the ghetto reflector panels made a tremendous difference in the overall brightness of the groweth space. Thanks to all who slappeth the Lord into throwing them up.

P&L
J.H.C.

[stoneric]

Not to be a pain in the lord's balls, but imagine a rooms brightness if the grow space was completely enclosed and every inch was painted flat white or was covered with mylar? You would have a groweth shack inside a groweth shack. More stealth and better for dark periods during flower. Just a suggestion, don't be damning me for eternity.