![]() |
|
|||||||
| Higher Thoughts A comfortable place where we can freely exchange and co-mingle our thoughts, ideas, interests, imaginations, energies, talents, and visions. This forum is for well thought out and meaningful discussion of various topics not covered in our other forum |
| View Poll Results: Would You Drug Test Your Children | |||
| Yes, often |
|
0 | 0% |
| Yes, occasionally |
|
4 | 12.90% |
| No |
|
27 | 87.10% |
| Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll | |||
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Rate Thread | Display Modes |
|
|
#1 (permalink) |
|
YaHookan
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: down the highway
Posts: 7,326
Thanks: 0
Thanked 74 Times in 64 Posts
|
Would You Drug Test Your Children?
Personally, I would. Not monthy or anything like that, but I would have a drug talk with my kid, and let him know that its on the table. Ya know, just to keep him on his toes. I really dont want my kids to get sucked into that world. I know some other #yahookans agree with me and I wanna hit a broader crowd with this question.
__________________
I may be wrong, but I doubt it. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2 (permalink) |
|
Reelin' in the Years
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Long and Winding Road
Posts: 266
Thanks: 3
Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts
|
If he is of a certain age I would not care too much if he smoked as long as it didn't lead to stupid or belligerent behavior. I wouldn't test him, depending on the situation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#3 (permalink) |
|
More Equal
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pha That Luang
Posts: 438
Thanks: 17
Thanked 44 Times in 37 Posts
|
Never, who am I to deny my kids of experience...It would be against all of my values to be that hypcritical...Drug testing just admits that you have no trust in the decision making abilities of the testee
__________________
?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#4 (permalink) | |
|
Yeah, baby.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Empire state.
Posts: 974
Thanks: 104
Thanked 109 Times in 83 Posts
|
no.
i mean, if you do that, were would it start/stop? will you ride on the yellow bus every day with your kids so they dont get picked on or become a bully? would you stay with your kid @ daycare for fearing their safety? would you do their homework for them so they dont get bad grades? sometiems you just have to rely on hopefully raising your kids good enough so that at an age when starting drugs could eefect their future, that they will have enough knowledge to make the right choice for that specific time in their lives. or whaterver. idk, i aint a father yet.
__________________
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#5 (permalink) |
|
Adminfiltrator
|
Never, as you said, I would give the drug talk, and I'd put out my opinion on the subject, set any rules... and I'd trust them to obey them... if they didn't there would be consequences, nothing drastic but enough to show I'm not a pushover.
Drug testing is a ridiculous invasion of privacy that makes kids only resent their parents more than they already do... I know from experience.
__________________
There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop! And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all! ![]() Click for lulz |
|
|
|
|
|
#6 (permalink) |
|
YaHookan
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: down the highway
Posts: 7,326
Thanks: 0
Thanked 74 Times in 64 Posts
|
Personally, I'm beginning to hate drugs. They really destroy a lot of people in a lot of ways. I know that when I was smoking, I was caught by my parents more times than I could count. They never really dropped the hammer on me though. They were kinda cool with it and never really gave me shit. Eventually i got to the point where i was high for like 4 years straight. My schoolwork never dropped off, it actually went up quite significantly.
There were a few problems though. First of all, it limited me socially. As I'm sure most ppl here know, when your a smoker, especially a heavy smoker, you tend to hang out mostly with other smokers. It significantly limits your circle of friends and contacts or other people you would get to know. Another thing is the legal issues. When your smoking over 2000 times a year, its hard not to get pinched. It happend to me twice, and while i escaped thouse issues as well as one could, I still feel like it will come back to haunt me later in life. btw. im high on poppyseed tea right now I feel like if my parents had kicked my ass when they first found some weed in my room and started testing me hardcore, I wouldnt have kept smoking. I know a friend whos dad is a cop. He was scared shitless to smoke. My life is going pretty damn well at the moment, so its not like drugs destroyed me. But I definitely almost wish I had never gotten involved with them, because I could have done better and more. Pot is definitely a gateway drug too, especially when smoked non stop. It just gives you a mentality that drugs are all right. You get used to getting fucked up, youre exposed to drug users and you ultimately wanna try em. I really dont think drugs are good for society or people. Sure, some people can handle it. But the majority really cant. I have no problem being a hypocrite in this case. I would absolutly test my kid if i suspected he was smoking. Id rather him not get involved in that whole scene
__________________
I may be wrong, but I doubt it. Last edited by DubStyle311; 05-27-2008 at 12:05 AM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#8 (permalink) |
|
YaHookan
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: down the highway
Posts: 7,326
Thanks: 0
Thanked 74 Times in 64 Posts
|
^
I imagine you could relate to this a little bit. I dont know alll that much about you TK, but i know you've had trouble with opiates. If you could do something to keep your kid from getting involved with that shit, wouldnt you?
__________________
I may be wrong, but I doubt it. |
|
|
|
|
|
#9 (permalink) |
|
Land of Smiles
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,519
Thanks: 28
Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts
|
Do drugs destroy people? Or do people destroy people?
Could it not be said that those that fuck themselves up with drugs were probably more than likely going to fuck themselves with something else...? M |
|
|
|
|
|
#10 (permalink) |
|
YaHookan
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: down the highway
Posts: 7,326
Thanks: 0
Thanked 74 Times in 64 Posts
|
"...more than likely...." No, I dont think so. In some cases sure. People destroy their own lives. Drugs are just an easy way to do it and makes doing it feel so great.
__________________
I may be wrong, but I doubt it. |
|
|
|
|
|
#11 (permalink) |
|
Addicted to Marijuana
Join Date: May 2005
Location: an extremely arid zone
Posts: 398
Thanks: 1
Thanked 17 Times in 10 Posts
|
pot isn't a gateway drug.
your problem is that you started smoking WAY too young. like I keep telling everyone, kids and drugs don't mix. I am not talking about a reefer here and there. We use drugs to help us with our problems, it takes until you are grown up to understand what your problems are. I hope that with the love and attention that I give my kids and the fact that they see me smoking and know how a person is when stoned, that mine won't want to start too early. When they are grown up a bit 18+ then I will start testing them. Bondi's drug test for his kids; 1. Do you have any drugs? 2. are they any good (quality wise)? 3. Do you know what these will do to you? 4. If you want to do dope in my house then share! |
|
|
|
|
|
#12 (permalink) | |||||||
|
YaHookan
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: chiburbs
Posts: 9,827
Thanks: 60
Thanked 290 Times in 186 Posts
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
What about alcohol? cigs? these are the first drugs that people try 99% of the time. You are really breaking out the sweeping generalizations here. Ive been smoking for 7 years like i said and while ive tried other drugs, i havent been addicted and i have stuck to pot all these years, and drink. If you get the mentality that drugs are alright from trying a harmless drug like pot that is your mistake and you will learn the hard way. you cant blame a drug like marijuana on people deciding to try heroin. Thats stupidity and lack of foresight, and it has nothing to do with weed. Quote:
Quote:
btw my parents drug tested me, just made me wanna do drugs more. i dont think your too well-informed in this area. by drug testing them you lose their trust and they cease to see you as a parent and you become the family police officer. now if you want no emotional bond with your kid then i guess thats a great idea, but if care AT ALL about your relationship with your child, you will not drug test them. if you dont want your kid breaking the law i can understand that. but drug testing them is some gestapo shit.
__________________
Quote:
Last edited by Waves; 05-27-2008 at 12:54 PM. |
|||||||
|
|
|
|
|
#13 (permalink) | ||
|
question authority
|
wow dumbstyle
you just get better and better ![]() drug test my children? Chances are they will be protected from the perceived need to lie, something far more insidious in todays world than a bit of weed here and there. I have to ask, its bugging me like a hole in the jaw after you've had a tooth out. Quote:
Quote:
why the disparity? your school work went up, (which you directly attribute to the drug use), yet you further claim you could have done better without them. Somebody please ban this drone from higher thoughts until his heights reach our ankles.
__________________
All we are saying is give POT
to everybody all the time... Last edited by generic_hippie; 05-27-2008 at 09:29 PM. |
||
|
|
|
|
|
#14 (permalink) |
|
More Equal
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pha That Luang
Posts: 438
Thanks: 17
Thanked 44 Times in 37 Posts
|
Oppressing the next generation, will not prevent mistakes made by this one, proper education is the only way to prevent the same mistakes...
Do you even believe in freedom, or is that something that should be mass produced and sold like everything else?
__________________
?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#15 (permalink) |
|
i hate emus
|
absolutely not. if i wanted to know i would ask. drug testing means that you don't trust someone to tell you you the truth. if i couldn't count on my own children to tell me the truth then i would consider myself a failure as a father
__________________
fuck the monkeys |
|
|
|
|
|
#17 (permalink) | |
|
<><><>
|
Quote:
![]() Just because I use does not mean I think it's ok for my children, like the old saying goes, "Do as I say not as I do." I have a cousin who lets her son smoke who's 17, not in front of her or in the house. I think it's horrible parenting but it's none of my business so I wont ever say anything...you know how ppl get about their kids, they'll defend them no matter what even if there's a 1000 ppl telling them their wrong and then you'll hear the famous, "Dont you tell me how to raise MY kids." Fuck you, thats what I say in response. To answer the question, I would never encourage my kids to use but kids are gonna be kids and we all experiment but if noticed there was a problem I'd definatly test them to nip it in the bud early because you have alot better chance of steering them right when their young than you do after they been using for 5 or 10 years. Just because I do it doesnt mean it's right, I just dont have any will power. bongsmilie
__________________
![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#18 (permalink) |
|
question authority
|
The idea that a child needs to hide and be ashamed if they wish to experiment with drugs of any description will inevitably lead to distrust and lies from the child when the curiosity we all experience begins.
Remove this shame, teach the child about morals, ie if something is worth doing, it is worth doing well and in full view of those who love you. If there is no benefit to the lie, then the lie is less likely to be told.
__________________ All we are saying is give POT to everybody all the ti |