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Old 09-30-2008, 12:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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honey oil vs.god's ear wax

been making honey oil about 5 years now.got my technique down good.amazing product.untill i tried something called earwax.made with butane still but much more refined.put my oil to shame in my eyes.anybody else know of this&how to make?only finding in north bay area of cali. also looking to explore making oils with different gasses.such as oxygen or C02.get the feeling using one of these gasses would make a claeaner product.should work on same theory as the ice water extraction.cold liquid in a sealed container being agitated...would appreciated any info/ideas on subject.thank you
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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chances are it was just honey oil made with better pot and some jerk is calling it earwax...

as far as other gasses are concerned, if its not broke, why fix it...
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^cause it is broke...butane is fucking nasty
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well you need to use a NON-POLAR SOLVENT to extract thc. if you use oxygen or C02 it won't extract anything. chances are it is a higher quality bud, or the butane is totally evaporated and it turns to a crusty powder. Then maybe refined yet again, but I doubt that because you would dramaticly lose your yeild? What did it look like?

You can use everclear, isopropyl alcohol(preferably 95% or higher), chloroform(DANGEROUS ), Butane, etc. But in essence the key to a good extraction is. Chemically stable environment(right temperature right amount of light for certain substances), finely ground organic matter, as much of a soak as possible before the solvent extracts other alkaloids you don't want(IE Chlorophyl), then PROPER evaporation of the solvent(don't heat it/light it on fire, just don't), and any refining and or "washes" if realistic.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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making a butane extraction set up is easy but operating it is dangerous
the butane is highly flammable(duh) anyways you need a pvc pipe with caps for both ends, a mirror or piece of glass, trim, shake, ground up bud, then you just fill the pipe with ganja cap it drill holes in both ends add pressurized cans of butane at one end and let it drip on to the mirror then the butane will evaporate. Watch out though your best doing this outside away from open flame.
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Old 10-02-2008, 12:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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the method ive been using is butane extraction.i cure in a small tin pan on a heating pad,after most butane has evaporated.stirring multiple times each day for about a week.untill no more bubbles appear after stirring.quality of plant material same.both trim/popcorn from kush.i recently heard one big diference is butane source.ive been using camp stove bottles[get em at 99 cent stores]seems to take about 80-100 cans to make an ounce.other guys are using a more refined gas.maybey test or insturment grade?shit looks like earwax.blonde,soft,s olid.melt to touch.cant taste gas in mine or theirs,but yet theyre oil tastes a lot cleaner.that gas is EXPENSIVE.guess thaats why it costs 80+bucks/gram.its warm out here and its hard to keep butane cold enough to properly saturate.thus a big waste of gas.if i could figure out how to better contain gas in liquid form in vessel,mite be more cost effective.the gas will not flow into a sealed vessel i dont care much for water extracted hash.just guess im looking for a way to improve what im doing now.thanks again in advance for your input

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Old 10-02-2008, 12:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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as far as using oxygen,the goal would be to keep it in liquid form inside a sealed vessel and agitate from within the vessel.much like making bubble.its not a solvent,but the near freezing liquid temps and agitation should knock off the trics causing them to settle at the bottom.oxygen should dissipate fairly quickly.maybey at this point i should stick to water extraction...just like exploring the possibilities....
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I guess I didn't think about that. Oxygen/C02 might work. I've just never heard of it. it might need some sort of stirring or something however? I'm not sure.
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liquid O2 and CO2 will be extremely cold, far below frezzing and will be more difficult to come by, if you are thinking of trying this it would be best to use liquid nitrogen. Also the butane extraction should work much better as it is dissolving the thc into solution, freezing will only knock the trics off, tch is found all through the plant not just the trics.
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Yeah the butane rig is hella dangerous. I sitting there, extracting about a 1/4 ounce of bud into a metal cup, like a dumbass. I touched the metal, static shock -> flash fire. The butane fumes were swirling around my face, and of course caught on fire. I got face raped and ended up with no eyebrows. At least it didn't burn my honey oil At least I learned something from the whole experience... and now I can churn out awesome oil, but I stay as far away as I can from that shit while its evaporating.
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
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want all u guys out there who are trying to make honey oil to be aware of dangers.first rule is proper ventalation.you should have a fan blowing away from you right next to your collection plate.plus other fans nearby stirring up all air in room.butane is heavier than air.so gas wants to settle to floor and build a pool waiting for source of ignition.as long as all air is moving around you,espcially the floor and you have gasses expelled away from you,shouldnt be any problems with saftey.assuming you dont stare down into collection plate with a joint hangin out your mouth,be smarter than equipment you are working with.be safe be high
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for any oil extraction you should be using quality butane here's a list of good brands Welcome to Keen World Marketing. I mean you're ingesting what you're making so you don't want to be using impure butane. Here's a good guide on making oil https://tokecity.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=45
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thaks gahib.useful info.i do belive only thing im missing is quality of butane.gotta give thanks to that dude@website you mentioned.i gotta figure out how to post some shit like that with pics.hes on rite track but a lil behind the times.trying to hold that can in place while processing trash bags of material can be a pain.i use nearl same method but tore apart a couple of camp stoves to induce the gas hands free also increasing pressure@same time,to help keep butane in liquid form.gonna be buying test grade butane from"AIRGAS"in lg cylinder for next round.dont like thought of metal tube..staic electricty...also using warm water to cure can get into oil,should try common heating pad.just warm enough to get gas out without igniting.thanks to all.will try 2 add pics of what im doin
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