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Old 04-01-2008, 03:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"Reefer Madness" was a true story?

I saw the movie "Reefer Madness" on IFC last month. The narrator said it was a true story. Can anyone verify that? If it was true, whatever happened to the people who were portrayed in the movie? Did Ralph actually spend the rest of his life in an institution, having gone insane from smoking pot? At some point I would like to think someone in the medical community confirmed that such was a ridiculous diagnosis, and that Ralph was later tried for murder.

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Old 04-01-2008, 03:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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it was a propoganda movie. not real. very similar to those 1920's prohibition-era 'devil rum' movies that were put out.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That movie was as true as The Blair Witch Project or Fargo. Like 30 said, propaganda, plain and simple.




(Side note, IFC is one of my favorite channels)
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Old 04-05-2008, 04:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That's good to know. I can't imagine a person being institutionalized for life for using "the dreaded marijuana." (I supposed that would make the guy a "Dread Head.")

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Old 04-05-2008, 07:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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That actually happened back in the day^
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah, the legal jibba-jabba that happened to them was commonplace... just the physical/mental symptoms were lies.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The movie came out in the 1930s, right after prohibition. You would think they would be more worried about teens and alcohol.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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originally, it was titled 'tell your children'

Tell Your Children (1936)
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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originally, it was titled 'tell your children'

Tell Your Children (1936)
It's kind of like that old TV series Dragnet where they're always lecturing to hippies about the dangers of getting high. I assume they meant it to be a drama (the comedy unintended). If anyone hasn't seen it it's on the Sleuth Channel.



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^good. another junkie off the streets. that kids has no idea what he's doing to himself.
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Old 04-11-2008, 04:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It is Based on Fact!
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The movie “Reefer Madness” is based on “actual” cases as mis-reported by Hearst newspaper articles of the 1930s that gave wild stories of marijuana’s “dangerous” effects. For example Hearst's American Magazine of July 1937 reported:

An entire family was murdered by a youthful [marijuana] addict in Florida. When officers arrived at the home they found the youth staggering about in a human slaughterhouse. With an ax he had killed his father, mother, two brothers, and a sister.

He seemed to be in a daze. . . . He had no recollection of having committed the multiple crime. The officers knew him ordinarily as a sane, rather quiet young man; now he was pitifully crazed. They sought the reason. The boy said he had been in the habit of smoking something which youthful friends called "muggles," a childish name for marijuana.

Another source for the plot of Reefer Madness was Harry J. Anslinger who headed the Federal Bureau of Narcotics for 31 years. Anslinger kept a file on marihuana known as the "Gore File," from which he took most of his public speeches - given at PTA meetings as a form of scare tactic - and arguments. The Gore File in turn consisted largely of excerpts from Hearst publications, racist statements, and unsubstantiated opinions. Anslinger claimed that marijuana incited “lust and fits of homicidal violence” in its users and that it takes away a man's will to fight, thereby rendering him impotent for war, and open to Communist suggestions.

The most effective illustration of Harry J. Anslinger's propaganda can be found in his own words "Marijuana: Assassin of Youth." This was published in the July 1937 issue of “The American.” It’s not hard to see how the article influenced the plot of the film “Reefer Madness.”


Marijuana - Assassin of Youth
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(The American Magazine, July 1937)


"Not long ago the body of a young girl lay crushed on the sidewalk after a plunge from a Chicago apartment window. Everyone called it suicide, but actually it was murder. The killer was a narcotic known to America as marijuana, and to history as hashish.
Used in the form of cigarettes, it is comparatively new to the United States and as dangerous as a coiled rattlesnake. How many murders, suicides, and maniacal deeds it causes each year, especially among the young, can only be conjectured.

In numerous communities it thrives almost unmolested, largely because of official ignorance of its effects. Marijuana is the unknown quantity among narcotics. No one knows, when he smokes it, whether he will become a philosopher, a joyous reveler, a mad insensate, or a murderer.

The young girl's story is typical. She had heard the whisper which has gone the rounds of American youth about a new thrill, a cigarette with a "real kick" which gave wonderful reactions and no harmful after-effects.

With some friends she experimented at an evening smoking party. The results were weird. Some of the partiers went into paroxysms of laughter, others of mediocre musical ability became almost expert; the piano dinned constantly. Still others found themselves discussing weighty problems with remarkable clarity. The girl danced without fatigue throughout a night of inexplicable exhilaration.

Other parties followed, finally there came a gathering at a time when the girl was behind in her studies and greatly worried. Suddenly, as she was smoking, the thought of a solution to her school problems came. Without hesitancy she walked to a window and leaped to her death. Thus madly can marijuana "solve" one's difficulties.

It gives few warnings of what it intends to do to the human brain. Last year a young marijuana addict was hanged in Baltimore for criminal assault on a ten year old girl. In Chicago, two marijuana-smoking boys murdered a policeman.

In Florida, police found a youth staggering about in a human slaughterhouse. With an ax he had killed his father, mother, two brothers, and a sister. He had no recollection of having committed this multiple crime. Ordinarily a sane, rather quiet young man, he had become crazed from smoking marijuana.

In at least two dozen comparatively recent cases of murder or degenerate sex attacks, marijuana proved to be a contributing cause. In Ohio a gang of seven marijuana addicts, all less than 20, were caught after a series of 38 holdups. The boys' story was typical of conditions in many cities. One of them said they first learned about "reefers" in high school, buying the cigarettes at hamburger stands, and from peddlers who hung around the school. He told of "booth joints" where you could get a marijuana cigarette and a sandwich for a quarter, and of the shabby apartments of women who provided the cigarettes and rooms where boys and girls might smoke them together.

His recollection of the crimes he had committed was hazy. "When you get to floating", he explained, "it's hard to keep track of things. If I had killed somebody on one of those jobs, I'd never had known it. Sometimes it was over before I realized that I'd been out of my room."

It is the useless destruction of the youth which is so heartbreaking to all of us who labor in the field of narcotics suppression."

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Old 04-11-2008, 04:07 PM   #15 (permalink)
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yea that marijuana is pretty dangerous shit.


best send it to me (an expert in handling dangerous shit) if any is found.




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Old 04-12-2008, 08:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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. . .they first learned about "reefers" in high school, buying the cigarettes at hamburger stands, and from peddlers who hung around the school. He told of "booth joints" where you could get a marijuana cigarette and a sandwich for a quarter, and of the shabby apartments of women who provided the cigarettes and rooms where boys and girls might smoke them together.
Ahh, marijuana cigarettes and a sandwich for a quarter, and women providing shabby apartments where you can smoke with friends and have sex with your date.

I born just too fucking late.
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:32 AM   #17 (permalink)
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haha ^ responding to yourself.
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Reefer Madness on TCM tonight:

2:00am -- Reefer Madness (1936)

Drug dealers lure a pair of young innocents into marijuana addiction.
Cast: Dorothy Short, Kenneth Craig, Dave O'Brien. Dir: Louis J. Gasnier. BW-65 mins, TV-14

Tell Your Children (1936) Overview
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:18 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Lol that one with the guy tripping on acid is great. Blue boy. Its great hurray for propaganda. Now Ill never touch a drug again.
I like how the first one says alchohol is much better than weed. Lol
I would like to have had that guy watch me drive drunk then high.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:03 PM   #20 (permalink)