With a Mac.. - Page 4

wellfleation · 05-25-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Puffman

This is why nobody respects your opinion. You didn't even come close to answering his question. He asked you to objectively tell him why Mac's are better, and the only answer you could come up with was "OSX IS TEH BESTEST!!!". You forgot to mention why it is better. You are the typical Mac-user (sadly), you are so wrapped up in defending a fucking brand name, while you don't even know why you should be doing so. So, since you are so inept, I'll try and answer the mans question.

But you know what, we don't need a novice explaining why. Just google and some people with credibility will educate you, many, many in fact.

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Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

wow so to sum up this thread : The definition of neat or good features for Mac users is glitzy but useless eye candy. Exposé is a great example of useless.

So you obviously have no idea what you are talking about judging from your stupid comments? Now I'm not going to hold your hand and link the MANY articles from PC magazine and other sources that abound regarding OSX and how it tromps Windows.

You are very naive. Is XP better than OSX? Is Vista? Not according to what I've read nor MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. Maybe you should prescribe to a newsfeed and become more educated? You really sound foolish, may I say, like a dumb-ass.

wellfleation · 05-25-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

wow so to sum up this thread : The definition of neat or good features for Mac users is glitzy but useless eye candy. Exposé is a great example of useless.

It is? Please explain a Windows features that is equal to (e.g. copied badly) to expose that shows what you are looking at, you know, is intuitive.

wellfleation · 05-25-2008, 08:46 PM

In comparison, and in MS cheap rip-off ways, they have an expose version that puts all the folders in a three d format behind one another making the user have to decipher what doc is what. Guinness! How intuitive!

Hey dude, live in your Windows world and I'll live in my Mac. You'll be a problem solving expert and I wont have to be. I'll just be proficient in my software while you keep solving problems and laugh at idiots like you.

Again, I'm not trying to convert, just dispelling stupidity.I would just assume stay at 10% being Mac users. I wouldn't want the rest of you on my team. We have a strong community and more ex-PC users would just ruin what we have.

Dr. ShinDig · 05-25-2008, 09:13 PM

I'm still waiting for an example of your software proficiency that I couldn't out do on my PC

wellfleation · 05-25-2008, 09:54 PM

wellfleation · 05-25-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. ShinDig

I'm still waiting for an example of your software proficiency that I couldn't out do on my PC

Ummmm, The software is better. You may be able to do it on a PC but good luck with that.

What PC centric people feel to realize is that Mac owners are very anal about their 3rd party apps. If they don't work well then they are all done. On the other hand, PC apps are available by the multitude and most of them suck but PC users use then any way and then end up frustrated and they continue. Wow, what an experience! Must me GREAT!

Dr. ShinDig · 05-25-2008, 10:24 PM

thats why it's nice to actually know what you're doing.. so your saying a mac is idiot proof? Hey thats cool man, you have fun feeling smart with your mac.

still no example?? sad.

ionlylooklazy · 05-26-2008, 11:04 AM

i got a couple anecdotes for what its worth.

i game on my pc fairly frequently. some people i play with use a mac. i asked them about a game (age of conan), since it was being released PC only. they said they can emulate windows, but its usually a headache and with the stringent hardware requirments, they didnt even "want to waste my money"

the other bit, I was doing some work at a newspaper company. ever single computer in the facility was a mac. i was fairly impressed. i was talking to the head of the IT department ( i was working with him to set up a VPN on the equipment I had installed) and i commented on the macs. he said the last IT guy was a big mac-head, and if they ever got the budget they were going to switch to PC's (they were having hardware problems on some of their macs)

LetsPlayYourWay · 05-26-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wellfleation

It is? Please explain a Windows features that is equal to (e.g. copied badly) to expose that shows what you are looking at, you know, is intuitive.

You must have a short memory span, because A) windows 3.1 had that feature and it was abolished due to it being USELESS, and B) the exact feature in use by OSX today was ripped from the Linux community. Keep the delusions up my friend.

Oh and i forgot C) Right clicking on the taskbar still lets me tile/cascade windows. I forgot you need a computer that does things for you, otherwise " It Just works" goes out the window.

LetsPlayYourWay · 05-26-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wellfleation

Mac owners are very anal.

Thread over, Thank you, have a good day, that gets added to the sig list.

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Hey dude, live in your Windows world and I'll live in my Mac.

Nah ill take the real world, where marketing means shit to anyone who knows anything about the product being purchased and where Macs are still inferior to Intel/AMD based computers for 99/100 tasks.

wellfleation · 05-26-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

Thread over, Thank you, have a good day, that gets added to the sig list.

Nah ill take the real world, where marketing means shit to anyone who knows anything about the product being purchased and where Macs are still inferior to Intel/AMD based computers for 99/100 tasks.

Macs are Intel. That's the naivety that PC centric people spew and I feel the need to correct. Stupid!

wellfleation · 05-26-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ionlylooklazy

i got a couple anecdotes for what its worth.

i game on my pc fairly frequently. some people i play with use a mac. i asked them about a game (age of conan), since it was being released PC only. they said they can emulate windows, but its usually a headache and with the stringent hardware requirments, they didnt even "want to waste my money"

Duuur, you don't have to "emulate" anything. You can play the game on your Mac running Windows at FULL SPEED, it probably will run better on a Mac depending on the hardware. Only people who know little about what's happening today don't know this and I doubt you would be able to educate him to this fact.

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Originally Posted by ionlylooklazy

the other bit, I was doing some work at a newspaper company. ever single computer in the facility was a mac. i was fairly impressed. i was talking to the head of the IT department ( i was working with him to set up a VPN on the equipment I had installed) and i commented on the macs. he said the last IT guy was a big mac-head, and if they ever got the budget they were going to switch to PC's (they were having hardware problems on some of their macs)

Wow, that's insightful considering most IT people are idiots and were weened on PCs and are terrified of anything different. Our IT people are complete idiots - I have no idea how they got their certs. Your idiot probably didn't know enough to repair Permissions and clear caches. You know, basic maintenance. PCs ensure job security for these IT dopes, of course he wants to go all PC, it's what he's comfortable with. But the trend is quite the opposite for those who want a solid system not reliant on a million IT dopes needed to support their PCs:Here is one example

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As for the VIPS application, Frantz says, "Windows on my Mac runs faster than any PC I've ever seen. It's blazingly fast. One of the main things that stunned me is just how well the Mac hardware runs Windows

How about IBM running Macs
Her is IBM's reasoning behind this move my (wife owns a thinkpad, btw, issued by her business of course):

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Alternative to Microsoft Windows
Less prone to security issues
Widely used in the academic world with which Research has close ties
Many new hires are more comfortable with the Mac and lately asking for it
Growing Mac community in Research and within IBM that finds the development environment on Mac more convenient
Growing acceptance of the Mac as a consumer and business oriented client platform
WPLC strategy includes significant investments in achieving the Mac platform parity

If I were you I would get more familiar with Macs. I hate to break the news to you but Wndows is the past not the feature.

JcP · 05-26-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wellfleation

Guinness! .

Did no one else catch this?

wellfleation · 05-26-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JcP

Did no one else catch this?

You're brilliant!

Typical, attack the messenger and not the message.

If I were to point out all the mistakes made on these boards there would be a separate board dedicated to it. But congratulations, u b smart. See ya in the real would dude. I'm sure you're tasty.

LetsPlayYourWay · 05-26-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wellfleation

Macs are Intel. That's the naivety that PC centric people spew and I feel the need to correct. Stupid!

Sorry worded incorrectly on my part, OSX vs Non OSX. Non OSX wins. We can go over this a hundred times, but each time the result will be the same, performance wise APPLE loses.

Look here from CNET, Apple loses to the bare bottom of the PC market, ACER.

CNET Prizefight: Mac vs. PC laptops - CNET reviews

Not only in performance but battery life oh and usable features like, built in memory card reader, PC card slots etc.

Oh and everything that Ilife contains, already comes with with both XP and Vista in terms of features.

and now to adress the STUPID, look at the benchmarks, Tell me that Mac runs on the same Intel platform as Windows/Linux and i will snap....done looking?

Now before you even bother arguing, It is not the same platform and it is an inferior platform to the one used in "PC" systems. How do we deduct this? By looking at the XP performance specs while running on PC and on MAC. Conclusion : BootCamp sucks.

ionlylooklazy · 05-26-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wellfleation

Duuur, you don't have to "emulate" anything. You can play the game on your Mac running Windows at FULL SPEED, it probably will run better on a Mac depending on the hardware. Only people who know little about what's happening today don't know this and I doubt you would be able to educate him to this fact.

Wow, that's insightful considering most IT people are idiots and were weened on PCs and are terrified of anything different. Our IT people are complete idiots - I have no idea how they got their certs. Your idiot probably didn't know enough to repair Permissions and clear caches. You know, basic maintenance. PCs ensure job security for these IT dopes, of course he wants to go all PC, it's what he's comfortable with. But the trend is quite the opposite for those who want a solid system not reliant on a million IT dopes needed to support their PCs:Here is one example How about IBM running Macs
Her is IBM's reasoning behind this move my (wife owns a thinkpad, btw, issued by her business of course):

If I were you I would get more familiar with Macs. I hate to break the news to you but Wndows is the past not the feature.

i thought the advantage of a mac was that it was intuitive and easy to use?

wellfleation · 05-29-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

Sorry worded incorrectly on my part, OSX vs Non OSX. Non OSX wins. We can go over this a hundred times, but each time the result will be the same, performance wise APPLE loses.

Look here from CNET, Apple loses to the bare bottom of the PC market, ACER.

CNET Prizefight: Mac vs. PC laptops - CNET reviews

Not only in performance but battery life oh and usable features like, built in memory card reader, PC card slots etc.

Oh and everything that Ilife contains, already comes with with both XP and Vista in terms of features.

and now to adress the STUPID, look at the benchmarks, Tell me that Mac runs on the same Intel platform as Windows/Linux and i will snap....done looking?

Now before you even bother arguing, It is not the same platform and it is an inferior platform to the one used in "PC" systems. How do we deduct this? By looking at the XP performance specs while running on PC and on MAC. Conclusion : BootCamp sucks.

Since we are talking portables only with your link: That laptop they compare the MBP to has bluetooth 2.0, wireless card built in (N speed), firewire, a lighted keyboard, a gorgeous led backlit screen, NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 512MB of GDDR3 SDRAM, an ExpressCard/34 expansion card slot, weighs in at 5.6lbs and is an inch thick? Not to mention the Mac comes with OSX (HUGE advantage) and no bloatware. These things are more important to a professional than an ambiguous test that shows a cheap ass machine with limited features, features a pro wants and needs, running 2 seconds faster. But people like you will never get that.

Didn't think so. You get what you pay for. You can drive the Geo and I'll take the Ferrari.

You also get what you pay for with Apple's Pro towers. You pay and get a lot. And their Pro Towers kill almost anything out their. And anything with the same specs usually costs more, from, say, shitty Dell, for example.

LetsPlayYourWay · 05-30-2008, 03:08 PM

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05-25-2008, 08:46 PM	#63 (permalink)
wellfleation YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 1,528 Thanks: 13 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	In comparison, and in MS cheap rip-off ways, they have an expose version that puts all the folders in a three d format behind one another making the user have to decipher what doc is what. Guinness! How intuitive! Hey dude, live in your Windows world and I'll live in my Mac. You'll be a problem solving expert and I wont have to be. I'll just be proficient in my software while you keep solving problems and laugh at idiots like you. Again, I'm not trying to convert, just dispelling stupidity.I would just assume stay at 10% being Mac users. I wouldn't want the rest of you on my team. We have a strong community and more ex-PC users would just ruin what we have. __________________ I may not agree with what you have to say but I'll defend your right to say it to my death

05-25-2008, 09:13 PM	#64 (permalink)
Dr. ShinDig seriously skewed Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Arizona Baby! Posts: 306 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	I'm still waiting for an example of your software proficiency that I couldn't out do on my PC __________________ Putting the High in "High Quality"

05-25-2008, 09:54 PM	#65 (permalink)
wellfleation YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Methuen, MASSHOLE Posts: 1,528 Thanks: 13 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	k __________________ I may not agree with what you have to say but I'll defend your right to say it to my death Last edited by wellfleation; 05-25-2008 at 10:12 PM.

05-25-2008, 10:24 PM	#67 (permalink)
Dr. ShinDig seriously skewed Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Arizona Baby! Posts: 306 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	thats why it's nice to actually know what you're doing.. so your saying a mac is idiot proof? Hey thats cool man, you have fun feeling smart with your mac. still no example?? sad. __________________ Putting the High in "High Quality"

05-26-2008, 11:04 AM	#68 (permalink)
ionlylooklazy no left turn unstoned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: kansas Posts: 3,193 Thanks: 1 Thanked 21 Times in 3 Posts	i got a couple anecdotes for what its worth. i game on my pc fairly frequently. some people i play with use a mac. i asked them about a game (age of conan), since it was being released PC only. they said they can emulate windows, but its usually a headache and with the stringent hardware requirments, they didnt even "want to waste my money" the other bit, I was doing some work at a newspaper company. ever single computer in the facility was a mac. i was fairly impressed. i was talking to the head of the IT department ( i was working with him to set up a VPN on the equipment I had installed) and i commented on the macs. he said the last IT guy was a big mac-head, and if they ever got the budget they were going to switch to PC's (they were having hardware problems on some of their macs)