With a Mac..

[wellfleation]

Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

Man you are a piece of work. You are living in a land of make believe. Your comparison of Ferrari Vs Geo is off. In this case neither the Mac or the Acer are a geo or a ferrari. In this case we have a bad, child like designed OS, the OSX, that is more unstable than any version of windows that has come out in the last 5 years. We have the throttled down Intel architecture on the Mac, that again doesn't perform at nearly the same performance level as the architecture for the PC.

Now i can deduct that you didn't read that review because you focused on the Performance and then brought up features, MAC LOSES AGAIN, CNET Prizefight: Mac vs. PC laptops - CNET reviews

ANd a lit up keyboard is for emo kids wanting to look cool, not for professionals who need the least amount of possible visible distractions when looking at a screen and who in most cases already know how to touch type...

Here from the website

Audio/video
Apple prides itself on its products' audiovisual capabilities (remember the "digital lifestyle hub"?). But the MacBook Pro includes the bare minimum of A/V features: a microphone and some pretty good speakers, DVI and VGA signal connections (the latter via an included adapter), one four-pin FireWire port, and only two USB 2.0 ports for connecting to external peripherals, such as a camera or a mouse. The TravelMate 8200 easily trumps the MacBook Pro with all of that plus an S-Video output, S/PDIF, and two additional USB 2.0 ports. And while both laptops include a built-in Webcam above their displays, the TravelMate 8200's camera can rotate 225 degrees, letting you snap shots in front of, above, or behind the laptop. Advantage: Acer.

Storage and slots
If you have lots of MP3s or digital video, storage capacity matters, and the TravelMate 8200 provides an extra 20GB of storage space compared to our MacBook Pro test configuration. (It costs an additional $100 to upgrade the Apple's hard drive to match the Acer's.) While both laptops are equipped with DVD burners and ExpressCard slots, the TravelMate 8200 accommodates some additional critical expansion features, including a more traditional Type II PC Card slot, a smart card reader, and a 5-in-1 flash media card reader that recognizes MultiMediaCard, Secure Digital, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, and xD formats. Advantage: Acer.

Networking
The MacBook Pro and the TravelMate 8200 both include Gigabit Ethernet, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR (Enhanced Data Rate), and Wi-Fi connectivity, but only the Acer TravelMate has a built-in 56Kbps modem (Apple sells an optional USB modem for $49). Still, a 56Kbps modem isn't exactly a critical feature in 2006, so we'll let it slide. Advantage: Nil


See again, you ignored the FACTS and went with the Apple marketing line which has now left you fully in the wrong as all those professional features you mentioned were just trumped by those of the Acer. Everything you said the Acer didn't have, and that it should have for a professional computer it has. All the useless shit you listed, it doesn't have.

Well, you show your ignorance by stating that OSX is crash prone and by implying that any version of Windows is more stable. That statement alone discredits you. In fact, that brings you to automatic dumb-ass status. And you're not just paying for the the hardware, BUT AGAIN, the superior OS.

And I guarantee you that if given a choice side by side and after using, 9 out of 10 people would choose a MBP over a Acer. Give me a fucking break.

[JcP]

Originally Posted by wellfleation

You're brilliant!

Typical, attack the messenger and not the message.

If I were to point out all the mistakes made on these boards there would be a separate board dedicated to it. But congratulations, u b smart. See ya in the real would dude. I'm sure you're tasty.

sweetheart, you need to calm down.

I didn't attack you, or the message. Nor will I, as I find your obsessive compulsion to defend the mac brand kind of frightening to me. Not to mention the obvious futility of debate judging by how UNBELIEVABLY defensive you get over a fucking brand of computers...like...W .T.F?!

Spelling genius as gennius or even as far as jeenyus is a mistake, and I wouldn't have posted.



spelling genius as GUINNESS is LOL-worthy, as it's a brand of beer.


so take some ritalin, do whatever it is you do with your amazing macintosh-ness and calm the fuck down.

[LetsPlayYourWay]

Originally Posted by wellfleation

Well, you show your ignorance by stating that OSX is crash prone and by implying that any version of Windows is more stable. That statement alone discredits you. In fact, that brings you to automatic dumb-ass status. And you're not just paying for the the hardware, BUT AGAIN,

You are arguing out of your ass. I said any version of windows made in the LAST 5 YEARS. Xp and on. Get it??? Didn't think so. I have yet experienced a situation where i had to unplug my PC to get it back up and running. I have had 3 different Apple machines that i have used, lock up to the point where killing the power became the ONLY solution. Just works my ass.

And i am not arguing about what the IGNORANT masses would chose, you are.

I am talking about Performance and usability, something that people who use toy looking OSX have no idea about. You need to have things done for you as you DON'T KNOW how to do them, so that is why Windows isn't for you.

Character Portrait of the Average/Typical Apple User --->

[WildWill]

You know, if you want to use a bloated piece of shit operating system that's prone to crashing, hacking, viruses, spyware, malware, bloatware, and doesn't "plug and play" like it's supposed to on a machine made up of third party OEM equipment bought at the lowest price possible, by all means, go right ahead.

I'll sit back, enjoy my MacBook, it's freaking amazing OS, built in everything that doesn't crash.

WINTEL folks who just refuse to accept the fact that it's the OS that makes a computer, and that Windows is just an inferior OS, are plain deluding themselves. In fact, OSX isn't even the greatest OS out there, but among the commercial releases, it's the best option. Any true computer geek is running a dual boot with Linux anyway.

Oh and BTW - your links are from 2006, and all from the same CNET article. I'm sure there are TONS of benchmark comparisons which DO NOT support your hypothesis.

I will give you one thing, bootcamp did suck, a couple of years ago when it was new. Now there are other products which work better, including Parallels, which is what a ton of IT professionals use.




you know what's even funnier? You know what schools buy? I mean K-12 schools? Ain't PCs. I was observing classes in a very, very inner-city school the other day, and the classrooms all had Macs, and the teachers all had Macs. This school was so deep in the 'hood that they've had two recent shooting/lockdown incidents, and they're running Macs. Think about that for a minute, they use Macs to teach to at-risk kids who are notoriously difficult to teach. Not PCs, Macs.

[Flamingnun]

Originally Posted by wellfleation

Funny how I'm so successful. Are you?

Zuess mna, chilli otu nda haev a pnit fo genius.

[Lloydy]

wellfleation shags his mac

[LetsPlayYourWay]

Originally Posted by WildWill

You know, if you want to use a bloated piece of shit operating system that's prone to crashing, hacking, viruses, spyware, malware, bloatware, and doesn't "plug and play" like it's supposed to on a machine made up of third party OEM equipment bought at the lowest price possible, by all means, go right ahead.

I'll sit back, enjoy my MacBook, it's freaking amazing OS, built in everything that doesn't crash.

WINTEL folks who just refuse to accept the fact that it's the OS that makes a computer, and that Windows is just an inferior OS, are plain deluding themselves. In fact, OSX isn't even the greatest OS out there, but among the commercial releases, it's the best option. Any true computer geek is running a dual boot with Linux anyway.

Oh and BTW - your links are from 2006, and all from the same CNET article. I'm sure there are TONS of benchmark comparisons which DO NOT support your hypothesis.

I will give you one thing, bootcamp did suck, a couple of years ago when it was new. Now there are other products which work better, including Parallels, which is what a ton of IT professionals use.




you know what's even funnier? You know what schools buy? I mean K-12 schools? Ain't PCs. I was observing classes in a very, very inner-city school the other day, and the classrooms all had Macs, and the teachers all had Macs. This school was so deep in the 'hood that they've had two recent shooting/lockdown incidents, and they're running Macs. Think about that for a minute, they use Macs to teach to at-risk kids who are notoriously difficult to teach. Not PCs, Macs.

Ok so your posted what he posted and thought you were going to be right? Thanks for admitting that Macs are being used by Kids. I was arguing performance, and again macs lose out. I have yet to have my Windows PC crash on me due to 3rd party /OEM parts, but that is because I chose the right ones. It just works, but thats because I know what i am doing. Wellfleation posted specs/benchmarks not to long ago which he claimed showed the MacBook pro to be the fastest Laptop on the market, well those same benchmarks and the specs on the apple website clearly show that it isn't. Windows running on the Apple set architecture of Intel runs slower than on the standard Intel architecture.

At this moment there is one and only one market where the Apple system outperforms the Windows system and that is Audio production, but that is due SOLELY to the 3rd party vendors who create the 3rd party addons that allow it to do so.

[wellfleation]

Did that Acer have a webcam?

Just asking...

[wellfleation]

Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

Ok so your posted what he posted and thought you were going to be right? Thanks for admitting that Macs are being used by Kids.

Ummm, yeah, doesn't everbody know that most people who use Macs are children.

Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

I was arguing performance, and again macs lose out.

There is more to a laptop than just sheer performance. Weight, size, features, battery life, OS, and I could go on and on. People like yourself will never get this. Using these standards, how does that Acer stand up? Again, those who can afford to due so will pick a MBP over that Acer and most other notebooks every time as one to two seconds is nothing in terms of performance when considering these things. You would be better off comparing the MBP to a similarly well built machine with the same features, slimness, weight, etc. Common sense really.

Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

I have yet to have my Windows PC crash on me due to 3rd party /OEM parts, but that is because I chose the right ones. It just works, but thats because I know what i am doing.

Jeesh, you must be a rocket scientist? Why do you need to be such an "expert" to make something work as it should?

Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

At this moment there is one and only one market where the Apple system outperforms the Windows system and that is Audio production, but that is due SOLELY to the 3rd party vendors who create the 3rd party addons that allow it to do so.

Windows dominate Macs because most PCs are used as glorified word processors and all many businesses look for is the cheapest PC box to get this done. Stupid considering how much such businesses pay for a huge IT team to then keep them up and running. Businesses are even beginning to look at the whole picture in terms of cost savings in the long run (e.g., you get what you pay for) and that is why we are seeing this trend reversing.

[Flamingnun]

Originally Posted by wellfleation

There is more to a laptop than just sheer performance. Weight, size, features, battery life

So maybe you should tell apple?






o wait, it does work after all.

[LetsPlayYourWay]

Originally Posted by wellfleation

There is more to a laptop than just sheer performance. Weight, size, features, battery life, OS, and I could go on and on.

Too bad that Apple hasn't heard of this because they lose out in features, battery life, OS etc.

[LetsPlayYourWay]

Originally Posted by wellfleation

PCs are used as glorified word processors

So by that standard so are Macs. If a PC isn't capable of it a Mac sure as hell isn't. We have gone over this already man you can just stop. There are more studios, photographers etc using Windows than Mac, the difference is that those using Windows aren't Apple fairy's who go around spending more time talking about their computer than they do doing the work on them. You understand that an apple computer is only capable of recording latency free when it has 3rd party HARDWARE in it right? You are aware that a MacBook pro when bought in the top of the line standard setup is actually not equipped for ANY sort of professional music, video or photography work? Right? I hope you won't try arguing against this because if you do you will be wrong. Your precious MacBook Pro comes with a 5400RPM drive as a standard component and you want to talk about usability and performance. It doesn't meet the recommended system specification of ANY professional recording software. I

Get a grip on reality then come back to this topic and ones like it.

[LetsPlayYourWay]

Originally Posted by Flamingnun

So maybe you should tell apple?






o wait, it does work after all.

that from the best damn page in the universe?

[WildWill]

A computer genius who still can't figure out multi-quote on a vbb board. Classic.

[LetsPlayYourWay]

Originally Posted by WildWill

A computer genius who still can't figure out multi-quote on a vbb board. Classic.

Wow a psycology genious who can't figure out the point of breaking up points by topic.

[wellfleation]

Originally Posted by Flamingnun

So maybe you should tell apple?






o wait, it does work after all.

Everything you've written is very funny.

[Flamingnun]

Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

that from the best damn page in the universe?

Encyclopedia-dramatica, and some random site for the hp exec cutting cake. Chances are fairly high they'd steal something from maddox though.

Originally Posted by wellfleation

Everything you've written is very funny.

I know, duh.