Internet2 [Death of the Internet]

BearsysRevenge · 08-29-2008, 03:12 PM

Opinions?

farmergiles · 08-29-2008, 03:55 PM

Sounds like a bunch of chat loosely based on facts with a lot of spin.

Ego Tripping · 08-29-2008, 04:28 PM

Well, two things:

a) It's really ironic that it's 2012 that this is all going down.

b) The reason the internet is so successful is the freedom it has. If they restrict it, it will backfire on them because it will lose all it's appeal. It already was working on this model when it first hit consumers hands and it floundered until they gave unlimited access.

The internet is great because you are in control of whatever sites you want to visit. If it's reduced to basic sites under corporate sponsoring, it will only retain a small percentage of it's current users. Furthermore, it would be a temporary thing at best. TV is not the TV it used to be. Not everything is 'on-demand' along with Tivo in which you can fast forward ads even. I highly doubt this is going to reach any fruition, no matter what model they test.

Dozer McDozer · 08-29-2008, 05:29 PM

how is it ironic?

I guess that internet program that predicted 2012 was right, but lets not make this about 2012, its the same as any doomsday prediction right

srsly tho, internet2 ftl

Tai-pan · 08-29-2008, 06:09 PM

Won't fly. I could go on an on why this won't work but I'll just say this:

First, People have had a taste of the freedom. Restricting them down, even slowly, will cause a backlash.

Second, People don't use just Amazon or E-Bay. They go do Digg, Fark, Boing-boing and other sites like YaHooka. Limiting or cutting off access to these sites may cause a backlash, but it also may cause an issue where people simply stop using internet2. It holds no interest any more out side of IM or e-mails (perhaps youtube or myspace/facebook if you have it).

..and perhaps that is what these corporations want? Like the guy said, it is conceivable that some of the major million and billionares got together and saw that the people were not buying news papers, were downloading their TV shows, movies and music, and were cutting into the profits. Seems far fetched but its possible.

The only thing the guy forgets is that the US is very anti-monopoly. If the telecom industry would do something like this, they would get their asses handed to them by the US Government. Standard Oil, AT&T (ma bell for those of you old enough to remember that bloated company at it's peak), Microsoft.... everyone thought they were untouchable and had too many politicians paid off. I can see the Government bitch slapping the Telecoms with some strong laws if this were to go live.

Ego Tripping · 08-29-2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dozer McDozer

how is it ironic?

I guess that internet program that predicted 2012 was right, but lets not make this about 2012, its the same as any doomsday prediction right

I don't know what internet program you're talking about, but I'm not saying any doomsay related, I just find it ironic because 2012 (through ancient prophecy, for what it's worth) is said to be a huge turning point in mankind's humanity.

CBCOOLEST · 08-30-2008, 08:12 AM

I think its total weird the way he thinks and he says those things. It's totally crap in my opinion

JcP · 08-30-2008, 05:07 PM

the irony of this guy posting his video on youtube and then using youtube's intellectual rights as a condemnation and proof of what's going on is not lost on me.

there would be such a fuckin' backlash for this from so many people, I don't see how this would even remotely take over the "free" internet.

edit: oh, it's Alex Jones. Take it with a grain of salt.

Dozer McDozer · 08-30-2008, 05:15 PM

yep a lot of people will probably say well fuck it like i will if this actually happens

Ego Tripping · 08-30-2008, 05:16 PM

What's weird is that just because Alex Jones is obnoxiously loud and on the internet, people don't seem to realize that he makes his money the same way any tabloid does: overblown drama.

420smokeman · 08-30-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ego Tripping

I don't know what internet program you're talking about, but I'm not saying any doomsay related, I just find it ironic because 2012 (through ancient prophecy, for what it's worth) is said to be a huge turning point in mankind's humanity.

hes talking about "timewave zero" the program terrence mckenna created by useing the I ching that predicted the ebb and flow of time and on 2012 it gos off the chart...i tink thats wha hes talkin about

Cerpin Taxt · 08-30-2008, 06:32 PM

2012 blah blah blah

Nothing is going to happen.

Dozer McDozer · 09-05-2008, 07:56 PM

i wasn't talking about timewave zero but i was aware of it and mckenna

Shamrock910 · 09-06-2008, 02:38 PM

This better not happen, if it does, no more online gaming. I

And DAMN I can't wait for 2012. So much shit is supposed to happen. An asteroid hitting us, aliens, end of the world/new begining, now this.... Should be an exciting year, though most likely just disapointing.

08-29-2008, 03:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
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08-29-2008, 03:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
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08-29-2008, 04:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,504 Thanks: 37 Thanked 178 Times in 103 Posts	Well, two things: a) It's really ironic that it's 2012 that this is all going down. b) The reason the internet is so successful is the freedom it has. If they restrict it, it will backfire on them because it will lose all it's appeal. It already was working on this model when it first hit consumers hands and it floundered until they gave unlimited access. The internet is great because you are in control of whatever sites you want to visit. If it's reduced to basic sites under corporate sponsoring, it will only retain a small percentage of it's current users. Furthermore, it would be a temporary thing at best. TV is not the TV it used to be. Not everything is 'on-demand' along with Tivo in which you can fast forward ads even. I highly doubt this is going to reach any fruition, no matter what model they test. __________________ I don`t fear the fear, it`s just a state of mind. - farmergiles

08-29-2008, 05:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dozer McDozer yahookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: whaa...huh? Posts: 565 Thanks: 60 Thanked 45 Times in 41 Posts	how is it ironic? I guess that internet program that predicted 2012 was right, but lets not make this about 2012, its the same as any doomsday prediction right srsly tho, internet2 ftl __________________ An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody will see it. - Mahatma Gandhi Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. - Albert Einstein It is a great source of error to believe that there is no perception in the soul besides those of which it is conscious – Gotffried Wilhelm Leibniz

08-30-2008, 05:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dozer McDozer yahookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: whaa...huh? Posts: 565 Thanks: 60 Thanked 45 Times in 41 Posts	yep a lot of people will probably say well fuck it like i will if this actually happens __________________ An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody will see it. - Mahatma Gandhi Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. - Albert Einstein It is a great source of error to believe that there is no perception in the soul besides those of which it is conscious – Gotffried Wilhelm Leibniz

08-29-2008, 06:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tai-pan Live and Let Live Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Up North Posts: 165 Thanks: 15 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	Won't fly. I could go on an on why this won't work but I'll just say this: First, People have had a taste of the freedom. Restricting them down, even slowly, will cause a backlash. Second, People don't use just Amazon or E-Bay. They go do Digg, Fark, Boing-boing and other sites like YaHooka. Limiting or cutting off access to these sites may cause a backlash, but it also may cause an issue where people simply stop using internet2. It holds no interest any more out side of IM or e-mails (perhaps youtube or myspace/facebook if you have it). ..and perhaps that is what these corporations want? Like the guy said, it is conceivable that some of the major million and billionares got together and saw that the people were not buying news papers, were downloading their TV shows, movies and music, and were cutting into the profits. Seems far fetched but its possible. The only thing the guy forgets is that the US is very anti-monopoly. If the telecom industry would do something like this, they would get their asses handed to them by the US Government. Standard Oil, AT&T (ma bell for those of you old enough to remember that bloated company at it's peak), Microsoft.... everyone thought they were untouchable and had too many politicians paid off. I can see the Government bitch slapping the Telecoms with some strong laws if this were to go live.

08-30-2008, 08:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
CBCOOLEST Daily Photoshop User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Timisoara Posts: 216 Thanks: 0 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts	I think its total weird the way he thinks and he says those things. It's totally crap in my opinion

08-30-2008, 05:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,504 Thanks: 37 Thanked 178 Times in 103 Posts	What's weird is that just because Alex Jones is obnoxiously loud and on the internet, people don't seem to realize that he makes his money the same way any tabloid does: overblown drama. __________________ I don`t fear the fear, it`s just a state of mind. - farmergiles

08-30-2008, 06:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cerpin Taxt Who?? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 4,688 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	2012 blah blah blah Nothing is going to happen. __________________ "Some songs have a special meaning for a man, in regards to a special woman. But this can backfire. Because maybe the song had deeper meaning to begin with, but now its been cheapened. "We are the world, we are the children, we are the ones who make a better life, so lets keep on givin'..." You remember that song baby? The night I fucked you in the pet cemetary? That's our song!" -Mitch Hedberg

09-05-2008, 07:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dozer McDozer yahookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: whaa...huh? Posts: 565 Thanks: 60 Thanked 45 Times in 41 Posts	i wasn't talking about timewave zero but i was aware of it and mckenna __________________ An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody will see it. - Mahatma Gandhi Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. - Albert Einstein It is a great source of error to believe that there is no perception in the soul besides those of which it is conscious – Gotffried Wilhelm Leibniz

09-06-2008, 02:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Shamrock910 YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 84 Thanks: 13 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	This better not happen, if it does, no more online gaming. I And DAMN I can't wait for 2012. So much shit is supposed to happen. An asteroid hitting us, aliens, end of the world/new begining, now this.... Should be an exciting year, though most likely just disapointing.

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