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Old 09-22-2009, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Ayahuasca (sacred root) on Travel Channel

Madventures is a new show (new to me,anyway) on the Travel Channel. Two Finnish guys go to the the worst slum in Rio, where gangs, not cops rule. After that they go from the jungles of the city to the jungles of the rain forest. There they find a 92 year old Shaman who guides them into the world of the unknown. He prepares for them the very psychedelic root known as Ayahuasca, where they undergo a very long and intense trip.
If all that wasn't dangerous enough, the next episode they go to Burma, which is as secretive and totalitarian as North Korea.
These guys are real, as evidenced by the very first segment where a doctor implants a 3 carat diamond into one of the boys arm and stitches it up. If they get in a jam, they have a perfectly hidden item they can get a couple thousand dollars, anywhere in the world, in case of emergency.
No camera crew, just two crazy dudes.
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67 TRAV: Tuesday, September 22 2:00 AM
Travel

Brazil: On the River of Shamans
Riku and Tunna travel from Brazil's urban jungles of Rio to the rain forests of the Amazon basin in the footsteps of William Burroughs and Allen Ginsberg.

Original Air Date: Sep 21, 2009

Future Airings:
TRAV Tuesday, September 22 2:00 AM Brazil: On the River of Shamans
TRAV Tuesday, September 22 2:30 AM South East Asia: The Long Road to Burma
TRAV Thursday, September 24 10:00 PM Brazil: On the River of Shamans
TRAV Thursday, September 24 10:30 PM South East Asia: The Long Road to Burma
TRAV Friday, September 25 2:00 AM Brazil: On the River of Shamans

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Old 09-22-2009, 01:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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thanks man i'll fire up the dvr. sounds interesting
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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These guys are fearless, man. They do little sidetrips into Cambodia and North Vietnam too, where they drink Cobra blood,visit the Pol Pot torture museum and shoot off Russian- made grenade launchers.
 
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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they're back

Hey everybody.... get nervous...there on again tonite..TRAVEL CHANNEL, 10pm East.
 
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ummm, I hate when they drink ayahuasca on TV and are like OMG SO CRAZIES.
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ummm, I hate when they drink ayahuasca on TV and are like OMG SO CRAZIES.
Now we know how we look on 1000 micrograms of pharmaceutical acid.
 
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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wtf is pharmaceutical acid?
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Back in the day you used to be able to get pharmaceutical grade acid(made for medical purposes/experiments). Flappy is an old timer.

I like watching the ayahuasca documentaries. It makes me happy to see squares turn into circles .
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Old 09-29-2009, 04:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally all LSD was made by Sandoz Pharmaceutical company, which had developed the chemical and hoped to market it commercially. It came in glass ampules filled with blue liquid, or small tablets in bottles with pharmaceutical labels specifying strength.
By 1965, use had increased sharply. Most acid at this time came in sugar cubes dropped with liquid Sandoz or some type of underground LSD. What percentage of the material was Sandoz is left to future determination. Augustus Stanley Owsley III, unable to obtain any pharmaceutical LSD, began to manufacture his own - first in Los Angeles in '65, then in nearby Point Richmond in '66.

Owsley's fellow alchemist, Tim Scully, admitted to me that the 1965 batch was impure, but claims that Owsley and he perfected a purification process in 1966. Many who used both Sandoz and Owsley - the latter came in tablets of purple (Purple Haze) and White Lighting of 270 micrograms - say that Owsley acid was less mystical and had more stimulant side reactions than the Sandoz product.
Owsley acid was the first large-scale commercialization of LSD. There were other smaller LSD laboratories before Owsley, and there were scores of laboratories that put out LSD at the same time that Owsley did. Some were making LSD of a purer form; the majority made it much worse.

After Owsley was arrested in 1967 at his tabbing facility at Orinda, California, his protege Scully set up a laboratory with Nicholas Sand, another alchemist long involved in the psychedelic scene. They manufactured a quantity of ALD-52 - a cousin to LSD, which they called Sunshine - in large crumbly orange tablets of 270 micrograms or so. [Erowid Note: Though it was claimed at the time that they were producing ALD-52, we now believe that they were, in fact, producing LSD.]

In the spring of 1969, Ron Stark, then a chemist with a European LSD factory and now a fugitive, allegedly began supplying underground acid to the Brotherhood of Eternal Love. Since the Brotherhood was also, by this time, distributing ALD-52, and since both drugs were tabbed into identical pills (except for a few early blue tablets of ALD-52), many people didn't realize that there was more than one kind of Sunshine. Many counterfeit versions soon appeared on the market, most of which were impure, according to Scully.

Sand and Scully ceased manufacturing, but Stark went on to produce over 10 kilograms (over 35 million doses in crystal form) of what became the famous Orange Sunshine - the last of which actually appeared in large red and green tablets called "Christmas Acid."

With the Sunshine boom came increased reports of side effects. In addition to stimulant reactions and symptoms akin to those of strychnine poisoning being reported, there seemed to be something missing in the spiritual dimensions of this new underground acid. Michael Hollinshead, who gave Leary his first taste of acid in 1960, later wrote in The Man Who Turned on the World:

There was now (1968) little good acid around, and what there was - the so-called "street acid" - came mainly from California. There was something wrong with the synthesis; it was not pure. And you were never sure what it was exactly that you were taking, so I only dropped it on those rare occasions when someone gave me "Sandoz" or "crystal" acid.

In 1969, LSD began to appear in microdots, and in 1971, on gelatin sheets of various shapes - dubbed "windowpane." The strength of individual doses swiftly decreased, and so did the purity of the average street dose.

An LSD experience is a complex interaction of five influential factors: set, setting, guide (fellow tripper), purity, and dosage level.

Set refers to the psychological makeup of the LSD tripper, both long term (genetic inheritance and childhood conditioning) and short term (expectations about the LSD experience and how the person feels that morning).

Setting refers to the environment of the trip - indoors or outdoors, "informal suburban house," "formal hospital room," or "windy beach at sunrise."

Set, setting and guide form the fabric of the trip. But before these influences can come into play, alteration in consciousness must occur. Thus, the nature of the biochemical used, its purity and its dosage level are most central in determining the course the session will take.

The manufacturing of the necessary precursors is a long process, and a great many new occasions for impurities can arise. Which contaminants do appear depends on whether the starting material was ergot, ergotamine tartate or morning glory seeds.

Full article see : Erowid LSD Vault : Article #1
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Old 09-29-2009, 04:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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ah. So I wonder if all the acid I've done though the years is some inferior shit compared to what it was like in the 60s.


Hopefully not I had some pretty crazy experiences.
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Old 09-29-2009, 04:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think the real stuff is gone, but it doesn't mean there are not psychedelic experiences. The additives can be huge.The most common additive is PCP (phencyclidine, or Serylan, an animal tranquilizer that causes hallucinogenic delirium reactions), which is also present when street acid is mislabeled "mescaline" or "psilocybin." Synthetic mescaline and psilocybin (usually psilocyn) disappeared from the streets a bit after pure LSD did (around 1969), and the only genuine forms of these drugs on the streets now are the organic staples of mushrooms or buttons of peyote.

As someone who has both injected and smoked PCP, I can say that it is about as high as you can get, I'm sure others here may have tried Special K (ketamine) and may even prefer it to acid.

The psychedelic movement, which has been in eclipse for ten years, will remain dormant until people can get LSD of known strength and purity. Until then, if you are an acidhead, chances are you've never taken LSD.
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What about 4-aco-dmt? It's an ester of psilocin that produces effects very similar to mushrooms.. not the same of course what with there being a multitude of little things happening in an actual mushroom.

I've also heard from a few sources that seem to be in the know that there is a good bit of quality LSD still being produced in vancouver at the very least.
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Old 09-29-2009, 05:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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And I do not prefer Ketamine to acid. The two are not alike.
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Old 09-29-2009, 05:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The psychedelic movement, which has been in eclipse for ten years, will remain dormant until people can get LSD of known strength and purity. Until then, if you are an acidhead, chances are you've never taken LSD.
Uhhhh i dont know about that man

It might not be as pure as the sandoz shit, or the owlsley shit, which was 500 mics a tab mind you, but its definitely LSD-25.

There are alot more research chems floating around, but not many chemicals have the potency that LSD does so there are relatively few you can pass off as the stuff. (DOI for example)
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And I do not prefer Ketamine to acid. The two are not alike.
Never tried it but remember when it appeared underground in 1980. Experimenters were very specific on dosage. Correct dosages can put you in the state mentioned by Carlos Castaneda and native Shamans. Conversations and journeys with great astral beings, many times the same being on each trip.
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What about 4-aco-dmt? It's an ester of psilocin that produces effects very similar to mushrooms.. not the same of course what with there being a multitude of little things happening in an actual mushroom.

I've also heard from a few sources that seem to be in the know that there is a good bit of quality LSD still being produced in vancouver at the very least.
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4-AcO-DMT, O-Acetylpsilocin, Psilacetin
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Psychedelic Tryptamine
CHEMICAL NAME
4-acetoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine
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4-Acetoxy-DMT is an uncommon synthetic psychedelic. Like psilocybin, it is metabolically converted to psilocin and is therefore thought to be nearly identical to psilocybin in effects.

Right on, bro's been doing some homework.
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Uhhhh i dont know about that man

It might not be as pure as the sandoz shit, or the owlsley shit, which was 500 mics a tab mind you, but its definitely LSD-25.

There are alot more research chems floating around, but not many chemicals have the potency that LSD does so there are relatively few you can pass off as the stuff. (DOI for example)
Could be, man. It's real subjective when you're exploring the mind.
Also, I think these factors make a huge difference, as stated before:

An LSD experience is a complex interaction of five influential factors: set, setting, guide (fellow tripper), purity, and dosage level.

Set refers to the psychological makeup of the LSD tripper, both long term (genetic inheritance and childhood conditioning) and short term (expectations about the LSD experience and how the person feels that morning).

Setting refers to the environment of the trip - indoors or outdoors, "informal suburban house," "formal hospital room," or "windy beach at sunrise."

Set, setting and guide form the fabric of the trip. But before these influences can come into play, alteration in consciousness must occur. Thus, the nature of the biochemical used, its purity and its dosage level are most central in determining the course the session will take.
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:22 PM   #18 (permalink)
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^i agree, especially with people new to psychedelics those factors are huge.

theres alot of fake shit out there in general, fake acid, fake e, etc. its always best to know your source and know your body.

cool show btw i wanna find some way to watch it on the internet
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