Americans(USA), why do you let evil reign?

[Canuck Wisdom]

Originally Posted by Michigan_Militia

I was taught very respectable geography. It was one of my favorite subjects.


Just because a few "test kids" were dumb, doesn't mean were all dumb.


Would it be fair of me to say, all Canadians are backwoods alcoholics who sodomize each other on a day to day basis?

There was a thread where I witnessed many americans come on and say how lacking their geography education was, thats what I'm going by. I know for sure. And I mean, obviously, even if the institution is lacking doesn't mean people know geography beyond ones own borders, but its a good reason to believe the average citizen doesn't.

I suppose that might of been a bit much of an example for me to try because I dont actually KNOW what the situation is like but I mean, I saw plenty of testimonies on here about how folks from various states only got a half hour once a week in grade 5 for example.

Originally Posted by JcPizwink

I'd like to point out Yacanuck that GWB has never had a mandate from this country.

He's been elected once against the will of the people and then again with a terribly slim majority.

All the more reason for you to be out protesting.


I'll be honest after making these ^^ posts I feel rather extreme. Especially since I am too lazy to find credible sources to back up my claims and I said all these things off the top of my head from knowledge I have accumulated from the media, people and the internet and from social and political courses at university. It needs to be said though, in one form or another and I chose to fulfill that destiny today.

[Waves]

Originally Posted by Snakes on a Plane

Becuase everyone else does it.

If we let evil reign, you're just as guilty as us letting it happen. Perhaps a better arguement on your half would be "americans why do you/your gov't purpotrate evil acts". Last time i checked China was a lot worse than us and does it on a large scale. Just like Switzerland, france, and England (and to some extent the US) are guilty of the Holocuast.

If America is the terrorist, then China is the Bin laden. Everything including iraq is being financed by China.

what?

kid, i tell you this at LEAST once a day:

thats no excuse. stop posting shit you have no clue about. jesus.

your like some little kid being caught by his parents stealing food. all you can yell is "well he did it too!"

we dont give a shit about other people or other countries! we give a shit about the country we live in and pay taxes to and elect leaders for(or not)!

im sorry for this outburst but god damn it sucks seing yet another dumbfuck response from you trying to propegate your CRAP opinion for information. stop pointing fingers and take a second to look around at whats happening and what this administeration is doing. do you know what signing statements are? How about illegal wiretapping? How about taking prisoners from all over the globe and throwing them into prisions without trial? do you pay attention to anything?

theres a pretty simple way to make sure the united states doesnt fuck up anymore countries:

Dont join the military you idiot.
People like you who are willing to risk their lives to propegate the united states foreign policies are what fucks shit up in the first place. If we had no idiots like you who have no other goals in life then we wouldnt have so many young stupid easily influenced kids carrying out rediculous, cruel, evil orders. join the army, give up your freedom, and carry out uncle sams dirty work across the globe. sounds like a great fucking plan

[Flipper]

we aren't having a revolution cause we don't want it. Its no noble thing neccesarily to have a revolution. We like it as it is. Sure life could be better, and sure our civil liberties and whatnot are being fucked, but in America, we got roads to change all this bullshit w/o violence. And our gov't is "run by citizens". Sure there are special interests running amock but w/o the citizens support there is no gov't. Sadly much of America is retarded and supports lots of dumbass mofos' You can see in illinois, how Alan keyes; a black, anti gay, pro mandatory enlistment, religious zealot, talk show host, anti abortion dick got almost 30% of the vote, running against good 'ol Obama. We are losing liberties cause the dumbass citizenes are letting it happen. Not because of special interests, etc.

[sonicwoah]

YaCanuk I'm not gonna quote your whole big thing but im adressing to the one thats long as fuck responding to mine.

You also make a good point. What is someone who would never be incriminated is due to the phone tapping thing. Well im not 100% sure but I'm pretty confident in saying that there has never been an example of such a thing. No offense people but the government doesn't really care enough to go way out of their way to arrest you on a phone because you said you smoke weed and have a plant. I dont think the government (im talking about federal government FBI and shit) is even allowed to do this but maybe im wrong. But seriously. If you are talking about buying pounds of weed from mexico, you are a drug dealer, or you grow a TON, you are an idiot. Catching petty drug dealers is for your local police force not the FBI. Also the government would not harras some arab guy (especialy not if he is a citizen) because if he is an anorchist. However anorchism does sometime rely on the use of terrorism to expose weakness in a government and its leaders. Either way, they would do a backround check first. And i am still sure nothing like this (random arrest) has happend.

If it does start happening, we have a problem and it should be solved. But untill then...i have no problem if somebody is listen to me talk on the phone to my friend about how much tree he has for the party if i remain unaffected. I think of thinks like this, as i said before, a precaution to ensure my safety as a citizen not invade my personal life. The purpose is to discover knowledge about possible terrorist attacks or other things on that nature. If I am safer because of it, why not?

[sonicwoah]

Originally Posted by Waves

what?

kid, i tell you this at LEAST once a day:

thats no excuse. stop posting shit you have no clue about. jesus.

your like some little kid being caught by his parents stealing food. all you can yell is "well he did it too!"

we dont give a shit about other people or other countries! we give a shit about the country we live in and pay taxes to and elect leaders for(or not)!

im sorry for this outburst but god damn it sucks seing yet another dumbfuck response from you trying to propegate your CRAP opinion for information. stop pointing fingers and take a second to look around at whats happening and what this administeration is doing. do you know what signing statements are? How about illegal wiretapping? How about taking prisoners from all over the globe and throwing them into prisions without trial? do you pay attention to anything?

theres a pretty simple way to make sure the united states doesnt fuck up anymore countries:

Dont join the military you idiot.

Anybody else realize that this was a fairly constructive debate before you arrived..?

The amount of times where you have referenced other countries....a lot. Who are you speaking for when you say WE dont give a shit about other countries or other people. I hope your not speaking for SOAP or other people on this forum and you are pretending you know what the government cares about...?

[Waves]

do you even have a point or do you just want to jump into the fight here.

ps- i was speaking for myself and everyone else on the forums who talks about the united states. we talk about the united states because we live here and the shit that happens here affects us. im sure theres some chinaman talking about how evil his government is somewhere. whenever someone explains something bad that the united states has done derexan usually hops in with his obligitory "______________ is worse! they did ______________!" theres a difference between discussing other countries and justifying the actions of our own country with that of another country. i dont think you understand the gist of this thread.

[JcPizwink]

Originally Posted by Snakes on a Plane

Translation: I make a shit wage, The house is owned by the bank and quite possibly the car.


Man, i'll be making better money by the time i'm 26, with full fucking benefits too

hard to make money with no arms or legs, hotshot.

[Frodo]

Originally Posted by Ego Tripping

^^^ Exactly why our freedoms are gone and not coming back. Why revolt? Because we are far too comfortable.

But that comfort can't last much longer. Once Americans can't fill their H3 with gas to go to Starbucks is when you'll see some kind of revolt.

As in "we'll stop buying gas and some other fuel source will take its place"?

Yeah, I agree. VIVA LA REVOLUTION.

Originally Posted by SOAP

Translation: I make a shit wage, The house is owned by the bank and quite possibly the car.


Man, i'll be making better money by the time i'm 26, with full fucking benefits too

Assuming you don't get your head shot off in whatever random foreign country whoever gets elected wants you to go and kill people in, yeah...

Of course, because I'm doing the smart thing and going to college I'll probably be better off than either of you, and without shooting little brown guys for a warmongering asshole of a preisdent, too!

[stoneric]

Originally Posted by sonicwoah

YaCanuk I'm not gonna quote your whole big thing but im adressing to the one thats long as fuck responding to mine.

You also make a good point. What is someone who would never be incriminated is due to the phone tapping thing. Well im not 100% sure but I'm pretty confident in saying that there has never been an example of such a thing. No offense people but the government doesn't really care enough to go way out of their way to arrest you on a phone because you said you smoke weed and have a plant. I dont think the government (im talking about federal government FBI and shit) is even allowed to do this but maybe im wrong. But seriously. If you are talking about buying pounds of weed from mexico, you are a drug dealer, or you grow a TON, you are an idiot. Catching petty drug dealers is for your local police force not the FBI. Also the government would not harras some arab guy (especialy not if he is a citizen) because if he is an anorchist. However anorchism does sometime rely on the use of terrorism to expose weakness in a government and its leaders. Either way, they would do a backround check first. And i am still sure nothing like this (random arrest) has happend.

If it does start happening, we have a problem and it should be solved. But untill then...i have no problem if somebody is listen to me talk on the phone to my friend about how much tree he has for the party if i remain unaffected. I think of thinks like this, as i said before, a precaution to ensure my safety as a citizen not invade my personal life. The purpose is to discover knowledge about possible terrorist attacks or other things on that nature. If I am safer because of it, why not?

Holy fucking shit.

[JcPizwink]

Originally Posted by sonicwoah

YaCanuk I'm not gonna quote your whole big thing but im adressing to the one thats long as fuck responding to mine.

You also make a good point. What is someone who would never be incriminated is due to the phone tapping thing. Well im not 100% sure but I'm pretty confident in saying that there has never been an example of such a thing. No offense people but the government doesn't really care enough to go way out of their way to arrest you on a phone because you said you smoke weed and have a plant. I dont think the government (im talking about federal government FBI and shit) is even allowed to do this but maybe im wrong. But seriously. If you are talking about buying pounds of weed from mexico, you are a drug dealer, or you grow a TON, you are an idiot. Catching petty drug dealers is for your local police force not the FBI. Also the government would not harras some arab guy (especialy not if he is a citizen) because if he is an anorchist. However anorchism does sometime rely on the use of terrorism to expose weakness in a government and its leaders. Either way, they would do a backround check first. And i am still sure nothing like this (random arrest) has happend.

If it does start happening, we have a problem and it should be solved. But untill then...i have no problem if somebody is listen to me talk on the phone to my friend about how much tree he has for the party if i remain unaffected. I think of thinks like this, as i said before, a precaution to ensure my safety as a citizen not invade my personal life. The purpose is to discover knowledge about possible terrorist attacks or other things on that nature. If I am safer because of it, why not?

If you honestly don't know why not, then you deserve every last thing that happens to you, bro.

And it's anarchy not anorchy. Just sayin.

[sonicwoah]

im still waiting for an example of someone who has been arrested because of wiretapping that wouldnt have been otherwise.....

[stoneric]

Originally Posted by Snakes on a Plane

Translation: I make a shit wage, The house is owned by the bank and quite possibly the car.


Man, i'll be making better money by the time i'm 26, with full fucking benefits too

I assume you were talking about still being in the military when you reach 26. Since you're 18 or 19 now I don't see how you can project so far into the future, since you haven't spent one day on active duty. The military recruiters are such good bullshitters that they get young people to loose their perspective on time.

[Waves]

Originally Posted by sonicwoah

im still waiting for an example of someone who has been arrested because of wiretapping that wouldnt have been otherwise.....

im still sitting here watching the point fly way over your head.

[stoneric]

Originally Posted by sonicwoah

im still waiting for an example of someone who has been arrested because of wiretapping that wouldnt have been otherwise.....

How in the fuck would anyone know? Damn man, you actually said you wouldn't have a problem with someone listening in on your phone calls. That's fucking crazy.

[sonicwoah]

no....im still waiting to prove me wrong? If you can give me an example of somebody who was arrested who would not have been if their phones werent tapped "illegaly". I'll admit im wrong just give me an example.

And im not missing the point. You still have the freedom to talk on the phone and say whatever the fuck you want. I just wouldnt make plans to kill the president or blow up a building (you should be doing neither of them fyi). Your freedom is not being restricted unless you feel a repercussion of something you would not have before. AKA...someone who has been arrested who would not have been otherwise because of wire tapping

[stoneric]

Originally Posted by sonicwoah

no....im still waiting to prove me wrong? If you can give me an example of somebody who was arrested who would not have been if their phones werent tapped "illegaly". I'll admit im wrong just give me an example.

And im not missing the point. You still have the freedom to talk on the phone and say whatever the fuck you want. I just wouldnt make plans to kill the president or blow up a building (you should be doing neither of them fyi). Your freedom is not being restricted unless you feel a repercussion of something you would not have before. AKA...someone who has been arrested who would not have been otherwise because of wire tapping

So if my phones were tapped illegally there would be a way of finding this out? If I got busted I guess they'd tell me at trial that they got their info from illegal wiretaps.

[JcPizwink]

Originally Posted by sonicwoah

no....im still waiting to prove me wrong? If you can give me an example of somebody who was arrested who would not have been if their phones werent tapped "illegaly". I'll admit im wrong just give me an example.

And im not missing the point. You still have the freedom to talk on the phone and say whatever the fuck you want. I just wouldnt make plans to kill the president or blow up a building (you should be doing neither of them fyi). Your freedom is not being restricted unless you feel a repercussion of something you would not have before. AKA...someone who has been arrested who would not have been otherwise because of wire tapping

What exactly is your brain fart on this issue.

It doesn't MATTER if someone can point to a case where someone has been arrested because of it.

An unelected group of individuals in the NSA has no right to catalogue information on ordinary...you know what? Fuck this.

Sorry bro, you seem like a pretty chill guy in other threads but you are a complete moron on this issue. Truly shocking the cognitive dissonance your posts are exuding.

[furio]

Originally Posted by Snakes on a Plane

Translation: I make a shit wage, The house is owned by the bank and quite possibly the car.


Man, i'll be making better money by the time i'm 26, with full fucking benefits too

Sometimes I wonder about you tbh.

Are you expecting to join the military to get rich?

I know a few guys from my highschool class that thought like you, one was in ROTC. This was before Iraq/afgan wars mind you. He was killed in a 'training exercise' in Germany.

He is now in the ground.

The other one is an alcoholic in jail for killing someone driving drunk. Both sounded exactly liek you before they joined up. So, don't be dissing others and acting all superior just yet.