President-Elect John McCain's Lead Widens, GOP finally opening up....

[LetsPlayYourWay]

Originally Posted by Snownuts

wow i had no idea ron paul was 73- i will say the man looks great for his age.

but that about all i will say about him.

Finally doing something good, having noting nice or true to say so not saying anything at all. Good job.

[Sofisticated]

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

Sofisticated is noones alt. His writing style is indeed different from OOTF and his Ron Paul zealotry doesnt match any other posters as far as I can tell.

Can we agree that me being called a zealot is name calling? Dubstyle clearly says it to defame my character and in the hope of making my arguments null. I'll take the high road. Read my responses to your "Ron Paul is Indeed Wrong Thread". Am I really a zealot? Am I uncompromising? Not at all, but you have clearly run out of ways to attack me. You came at me with some legitimate issues you believed in, and I rebutted. Is there a particular reason that you stopped posting in that thread after I rebutted? Ran out of things to say?

In the "Ron Paul is indeed wrong thread", I even gave you some concessions.

I'm getting sick of defending myself against people who don't understand the definition of the words they use. FYI, your credibility as a mod is going down when you must resort to calling me a zealot.

And, again, as far as national debt goes I would like you to discuss how candidates other than Ron Paul plan to approach eliminating some of the debt. Simple task. Get to it.

[DubStyle311]

zeal (zēl) pronunciation
n.

Enthusiastic devotion to a cause, ideal, or goal and tireless diligence in its furtherance. See synonyms at passion.

Sounds about right to me, no? You're the one taking it as a pejorative. It was never meant to be. I think it aptly describes Ron Paul followers. Theyre a different breed.

[Sofisticated]

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

zeal (zēl) pronunciation
n.

Enthusiastic devotion to a cause, ideal, or goal and tireless diligence in its furtherance. See synonyms at passion.

Sounds about right to me, no? You're the one taking it as a pejorative. It was never meant to be. I think it aptly describes Ron Paul followers. Theyre a different breed.

More so McCain followers, or even Hillary supporters. I say this because I see far fewer reasons to follow them with tireless diligence. If any.

Oh, and sorry if I have to keep repeating this until the words sink in: I believe in RP's issues. I've already stated I don't like cults of personality, so quit trying to paint me a mindless RP "follower". That label is far more apt for supporters of Huckabee or McCain, even, both of whom are perfect media darlings.

EDIT: Oh, and who are you kidding? Certain words have certain ingrained connotations. Synonyms do not all have the exact same intent in use. You were insulting me by calling me a zealot, as nowadays few people use that term in a complimentary fashion. Pretty transparent, man.

Also, it's quite interesting how posters who agree with RP are 'followers' while all other candidates have 'supporters'. I'm not sure if you're just hiding behind semantics, or if you really don't realize how your assumptions and biases are reflected through your choice of words.

How's your rebuttal on the debt coming along, though?

[Snownuts]

wait so are u backtracking because before u said that he didnt understand what zeal meant?

[Sofisticated]

Originally Posted by Snownuts

wait so are u backtracking because before u said that he didnt understand what zeal meant?

Well... Again, he claims that he knows, yet I see no evidence of that as he uses it in a preposterous fashion. Differences in connotations of synonyms is an important aspect of persuasive writing, and analytical writing. Something taught in most first-year university English courses. If Dubs truly thinks "zealot" and "passion" are the same, he clearly DOESN'T know how to use the words properly. Furthermore, if you guys want to keep delving into bullshit minutae, the word "zeal" and "zealot" also have slightly different connotations. When something is done WITH ZEAL, that actually does come close to words like "passion" or "enthusiasm". The word ZEALOT has a markedly different connotation.

Had he said "passionate", I would have no issue. "Unwavering"? "Unrelenting"? Again, all fine. However, it is INDISPUTABLE that in this day and age, one only throws out the word "zealot" in the pejorative sense, and mostly to discredit someone's sense of reason.

Still focusing on bullshit, and trying to defame me when I refute your unfounded opinions? Well, go ahead. That would be your and Dubs' domain.

Anyone wanna talk about Nat'l Debt? Or can we get another mod in here to hypocritically admonish me for attacks on character?

So far, McCain's notions on Iraq have been to shot to hell on here. Same goes for his supposed knowledge of economics. If the very troops that candidates are hiding behind show strong monetary support for Paul, why should McCain's POW stint automatically make him exalted?

You guys have really been reaching lately. And no one wants to touch the debt issue. Care to tell me why?

[DubStyle311]

Now that you've given me a specific aspect of the debt to address, we can talk about debt when I have the time to thoroughly educate you on the subject. It's gonna take more than 5 min to do properly. Ill write something up in the next 36 hours. I mean its late saturday afternoon, I got lots to do yet.

[kamikazi89]

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[Sofisticated]

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

Now that you've given me a specific aspect of the debt to address, we can talk about debt when I have the time to thoroughly educate you on the subject. It's gonna take more than 5 min to do properly. Ill write something up in the next 36 hours. I mean its late saturday afternoon, I got lots to do yet.

Thanks. I look forward to it. Just a question, though. Is this write-up going to be just like the "Ron Paul is Indeed Wrong" write-up? Cause I refuted what you said, and not to yank my own chain, I think I did so with some valid points (as did some others). Like the zealot I am, I even granted you some concessions (sarcasm, to remove any doubt). Are you just going to stop posting and hope the thread slides off the map so as to not look like a tool in your future thread, too?

Oh, and I'm sorry if I missed it, but who are you supporting? You posted this on the first page of this thread: "McCain would pwn Hilary in a general election. Id lvoe to see that."
So you support McCain? Just trying to clarify.

The only reason that I ask is that aside from you scathingly calling me a zealot, the above speculation was the only thing you thing you contributed to this thread. Any time you actually discuss issues, you choose to disregard any holes in your reasoning. That much is clear. How enthusiastic. How passionate. Pfft.

[Snownuts]

Here he goes niggas...

mr president. johnatho Q mccain !

[Sofisticated]

Originally Posted by Snownuts

Here he goes niggas...

mr president. johnatho Q mccain !

Can't deny he's doing well. Though I'm not as enthused about that as you are.

[LetsPlayYourWay]

Originally Posted by Snownuts

Here he goes niggas...

mr president. johnatho S mccain !

Fixed...
wow he wins one state...Have a look who he came behind in the other state today?

[Frodo]

Originally Posted by Snownuts

Here he goes niggas...

mr president. johnatho Q mccain !

He's ahead by 3-5% currently (heard it on NPR not five minutes ago), and some of Huckabee's biggest predicted support will come from precincts that aren't currently reporting.

He also lost in Nevada, but you seem to be having a hard time with that fact.

Remember though, this means the Democrats are split and the Republicans aren't.

[stoneric]

I thought it was john POW mccain.

u know the man can't bring his arms above his shoulders.... its because of the torture he faced in vietnam.


a small digress:

u know that mccains father was a general or similar high rank in the military,

so that when john was captured by the vietcong they wanted to relase him early to gain the generals good graces.

can u imagine that? they tell u that they want u to leave-

the problem is : the honor and rules of pows require that prisoners be released in the order they are captured. mccain REFUSED TO BE RELEASED AHEAD OF HIS FELLOW AMERICAN POWs.... FOR THIS DEFIANCE HE WAS TORTURED AND BEATEN EVEN WORSE THAN THE OTHER POWs.....

Now he cant move his arms above his shoulders....

what the fuck has hillary ever done to deserve to be president?

Originally Posted by LetsPlayYourWay

Fixed...
wow he wins one state...Have a look who he came behind in the other state today?

u obviously dont know much about nevada , or the difference between a primary and a caucus.

.... have a look at connecticut, florida, new jersey, ohio, or like 20 other states to see whos gonna with the nomination.

i think paul is beaing guiliani nationwide, but thats takes like 6%

[Sofisticated]

I am watching McCain on CNN 1:09 PM Eastern Time.

He's actually talking about deficits and Chinese ownership. He actually mentioned restraining spending (+1), but I didn't hear any specifics.

Can anyone fill me in on his particulars? If they're available?

I'm not sure if this changes my opinions of him really though, because he changed his position on the economy in the span of a week. I'll have to look more at this.