Why don't we just grow our own fuel???

[zoltron]

Originally Posted by Snikks

Have you read or heard of Apocalypse 2012? I felt it a good thought provoking book. In it Lawrence E. Joseph talks about how unstable Yellowstone Park is and that it is not a question of if but when it pops it's cork, the entire northern hemisphere will go dark for at 10 years. My point is...Did dubya not say he wants to drill there? 2012 says that it will only take a mere prick, at the wrong spot. Just a side note to further explain the book states that 2012 will mark the end of the Mayan calendar.

I can believe it. Those Mayans predicted a lotta stuff that came true. I can picture the human race ending 12/21/12. Wouldn't bother me in the least. I'll go out tokin my bong!!

[Ego Tripping]

The Mayan Calender doesn't end, it restarts. The only world that is coming to an end is one that is built of greed. That book sounds like fear-based bs.

[Pharm Girl]

Growing our own fuel, cleaning up the Planet.............
Who'd of thought, that within the Mushroom lies the answer.

[kamikazi89]

seriously though, why not hemp ?

[№1]

Originally Posted by kamikazi89

seriously though, why not hemp ?

Because then the U.S. government will have to own up as to why hemp was banned in the first place, besides the fact that the DEA justifies their huge budget by yanking tons of feral ditchweed (AKA non-psychoactive industrial hemp) and calling it a success on the war on drugs, no one has admitted they were wrong since the repeal of prohibition in the government and I'm sure they're not going to start now.

[badgoalie85]

not economically viable to grow crops for electricity? ever heard of a country called Brazil?

Brazil is completely self sufficient when it comes to energy usage (and i'm talking 100% they run their country on renewable fuels). While it is true that corn is pretty much the stupidest crop with which to make ethanol (for various reasons), there are other crops that can produce way more energy way more cheaply. In Brazil, they grow sugar cane. It works for them because of the hot temperatures year round (they can constantly harvest sugar cane all year). While sugar cane may not work in a more temperate climate like that of the US, the point is that there are DEFINITELY ways to produce cheap, renewable energy if a nation truly commits to it.

[Canuck Wisdom]

Originally Posted by badgoalie85

not economically viable to grow crops for electricity? ever heard of a country called Brazil?

Brazil is completely self sufficient when it comes to energy usage (and i'm talking 100% they run their country on renewable fuels). While it is true that corn is pretty much the stupidest crop with which to make ethanol (for various reasons), there are other crops that can produce way more energy way more cheaply. In Brazil, they grow sugar cane. It works for them because of the hot temperatures year round (they can constantly harvest sugar cane all year). While sugar cane may not work in a more temperate climate like that of the US, the point is that there are DEFINITELY ways to produce cheap, renewable energy if a nation truly commits to it.

Thank you! This is exactly what I think when people talk shit about hemp as an aspect to a renewable energy solution. Hemp grows more biomass per acre than any other plant I am aware of that can grow north of mexico.

[Mr.Tree]

i dont like the idea of growing corn for fuel. farmers, being humans, itch to have more money in there pocket, and corn nowadays sells for more than other commercial crops. and so farmers are starting to grow corn, instead of wheat, and others, and so prices are rising.

[Prophet Saddam]

Originally Posted by Xil

I still want to here whats wrong with hemp.

Where did Dub go?

[JainVeganBuddha]

Originally Posted by zoltron

The USA has more coal than any other Country in the world. That could be turned into fuel. Then we should stop sending $$$ to Countries that hate our guts. Become totally self-sufficient. Quit policing the world & start watching out for ourselves.
Send all the illegal aliens on boats to Cuba. All the $$$ that we'd otherwise send to Countries that hate us, give it to our homeless & hungry. All these Muslims, ship them off to Libya & Syria. Close our borders to all the foreigners. Tell every Country that hasn't helped us thru anything we requested, to FUCK OFF!!

Who the hell needs them? If we weren't dependent on the 'dune-coons' for oil, we could tell all them 'sheet-heads' to take a flying fuck off the Brooklyn Bridge. But we need a Leader who isn't afraid of offending anyone. Start by taking care of our own 1st...& if there's a few bucks leftover, toss it to 1 of the nicer Countries [anywhere but France ]

dont forget we need to send all the invading euro-genocidists back to Europe and make them stay there.

[Captdoug713]

Originally Posted by badgoalie85

not economically viable to grow crops for electricity? ever heard of a country called Brazil?

Brazil is completely self sufficient when it comes to energy usage (and i'm talking 100% they run their country on renewable fuels). While it is true that corn is pretty much the stupidest crop with which to make ethanol (for various reasons), there are other crops that can produce way more energy way more cheaply. In Brazil, they grow sugar cane. It works for them because of the hot temperatures year round (they can constantly harvest sugar cane all year). While sugar cane may not work in a more temperate climate like that of the US, the point is that there are DEFINITELY ways to produce cheap, renewable energy if a nation truly commits to it.

Sugar beets can grow in the US well. Brazil isn't run on 100% renewable fuels but they are energy independent.

[badgoalie85]

^well maybe i was going over the top with the "100%"...but still the idea is the same.

[zoltron]

Originally Posted by JainVeganBuddha

dont forget we need to send all the invading euro-genocidists back to Europe and make them stay there.

Yeah, right-on!! Kill them all...let God sort them out!!

[Prophet Saddam]

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

We are working on it. It's just not hemp, because hemp wouldnt work.

Will you please elaborate?

[Prophet Saddam]

bump

Hemp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[DubStyle311]

An interesting stat I heard is that growing biofuels uses ridiculous amounts of water. Thats usually one of the things naysayers complain about with oil shale. Something like 24 barrels of water for ever 1 barrel of oil equivalent.

[Prophet Saddam]

are we just going to go on hearsay, or have you thought about finding out for yourself?

i'd love a link