BLACKWATER Armory Raided buys ak's for untrained deputys so keep them at the business

[Smaerd]

Cleveland, and if you don't believe it get off of 271 go 90 west get off at martin luther king jr blvd and go on through st clair buddy, and then you might understand what kind of situation I'm talking about.

How bad could it be? just google "Cleveland Murder", see how many pages come up or how about this interesting article on how clevelands gun murders increased by 56% since 2004 this july? a direct quote "In the first four-and-a-half months of 2008, the Cleveland Police Department sent out 104 gun-suppression teams — basically, one a day. The teams made 287 arrests and confiscated 55 illegal firearms" Governing: Urban gun violence/June 2008

Don't you down-talk the potential of FUCKED UP SHIT where I'm from or even try to call it overratted. You know how many people dont get cought for smoking? Imagine that but with guns and violence prostitution you fucking name it. You know what it's like to be taking a piss behind a dumpster near a fence at a friends appartment having hustlers think your a snitch when really your reupping yourself and getting shot at for being white? Do you know how racist towards white people black people are in innercities? probably not. PEACE

[SoothingSmoke]

^ Which is why, my friend, there will always be people like me with concealed weapons permits. Yeah, my 12 rounds of .45 auto and two backup mags might not hold up long against a fully automatic weapon, but I'll take a few racist pigs with me. More on topic, he's right, and cities like Cleveland where it gets that bad really prove the case for less gun control and more carry permits being given to citizens.

[Smaerd]

You should go with a slightly less caliber maybe like .38 for your next piece if your looking to stop an attacker(and keep the power). Cuz 45's cut nice clear wholes in people, but that might not neccesarily stop them from popping back. But from what i've heard a .38 will have a greater chance of knocking the attacker down as well as ripping up their insides.

[stoneric]

Originally Posted by SoothingSmoke

^ Which is why, my friend, there will always be people like me with concealed weapons permits. Yeah, my 12 rounds of .45 auto and two backup mags might not hold up long against a fully automatic weapon, but I'll take a few racist pigs with me. More on topic, he's right, and cities like Cleveland where it gets that bad really prove the case for less gun control and more carry permits being given to citizens.

Man, you are so full of bullshit. I'd bet you'd wet your pants if ever confronted with a gun totin' moron like yourself. You'd think you would have been in such a situation by now.

[Smaerd]

Usually if people know you are packing they aren't going to confront you. Which by establishing that knowledge is risky but the bottom line is no one truly wants to shoot or be shot. But these things happen all the time and the pressure from the media(rap music,movies, etc) certainly will skew vulnerable people in a city who has over 2,300 homeless students(imagine the kids who already dropped out or never even went to school). Education goes down, bad ideas on how to survive get main lined into arteries of our poor cities.

I'll admit pulling a gun at the wrong time can be the end of your life, but at the same time you have to know that if your pulling a gun your shooting not bluffing. Unless you know the person who pulled the first heat is bluffing...best said by one of my old dudes "you know, niggas out here get rushed and just don't think, they just act. Next thing you know nigga got dropped and other dood sitting there head in his hands a couple blocks away like 'what the fuck did i just do'. All over tryin to eat five mo dollas off his work so his kids got somethin' to eat."

I used to be a gun toting moron, but it's just cuz everyone else was too.And FYI when I used to flip shit in that enviornment I was in those situations and I might as well have wet my pants everytime and cried to my mom. Though that's acceptable because YOU HAVE A HIGH CHANCE OF DIEING, dumbass. But I made it out so I don't have any weapons anymore, but I will if I ever go back to where I used to stay.

[stoneric]

Originally Posted by Smaerd

Usually if people know you are packing they aren't going to confront you. Which by establishing that knowledge is risky but the bottom line is no one truly wants to shoot or be shot. But these things happen all the time and the pressure from the media(rap music,movies, etc) certainly will skew vulnerable people in a city who has over 2,300 homeless students(imagine the kids who already dropped out or never even went to school). Education goes down, bad ideas on how to survive get main lined into arteries of our poor cities.

I'll admit pulling a gun at the wrong time can be the end of your life, but at the same time you have to know that if your pulling a gun your shooting not bluffing. Unless you know the person who pulled the first heat is bluffing...best said by one of my old dudes "you know, niggas out here get rushed and just don't think, they just act. Next thing you know nigga got dropped and other dood sitting there head in his hands a couple blocks away like 'what the fuck did i just do'. All over tryin to eat five mo dollas off his work so his kids got somethin' to eat."

I used to be a gun toting moron, but it's just cuz everyone else was too.And FYI when I used to flip shit in that enviornment I was in those situations and I might as well have wet my pants everytime and cried to my mom. Though that's acceptable because YOU HAVE A HIGH CHANCE OF DIEING, dumbass. But I made it out so I don't have any weapons anymore, but I will if I ever go back to where I used to stay.

Why do you use words that I used to describe someone else as if they were used to describe you?

[Smaerd]

my mistake sir.

[generic_hippie]

This:

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

What city are you from?

Is not a reply to this:

Originally Posted by generic_hippie

no thoughts on the social disparity that would cause somebody to feel justified in using violence to obtain what society tells them they must posses and fails totally to provide them with the means to procure it other than minimum wage?

just put more guns in the hands of a corrupt system to sure up that equity of the bland white middle classes

As always Dub, when you're challenged to think critically about a situation, you choose to ignore me.

You're a smug little know-it-all living in a bubble, and you need an arse kicking to improve your empathy for those born without a silver spoon wedged so far up the rectum it appears to be in the mouth.

[DubStyle311]

I think that your entire question is based on false assumptions. And even if they were true, it wouldnt be an excuse to do what they do.

[Prophet Saddam]

This:

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

What city are you from?

Is not a reply to this:

Originally Posted by Prophet Saddam

I still don't know how you go about identifying these people for a violation of their civil rights...

...care to explain?

[DubStyle311]

Intuition.

[Prophet Saddam]

You know this country is founded on certain principles...

[Smaerd]

So dub style you would also agree a cop should be able to search the homes of everyone who looks like that might smoke weed...you know cuz everyones smoked it once, those are some pretty good odds that from your internet history(yahooka) you should then have your house searched weekly(as well as me)? dumb dumb dumb.

[DubStyle311]

Nah, weed smoking, while problematic, is not an epidemic like murders are in Philly and I assume Cleveland.

The shit is just so out of control. Searching ppls homes is going a little too far. But random searches on the street. Fiine with me.

[Prophet Saddam]

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

Nah, weed smoking, while problematic, is not an epidemic like murders are in Philly and I assume Cleveland.

The shit is just so out of control. Searching ppls homes is going a little too far. But random searches on the street. Fiine with me.

Sounds like it would end up being the weed smokers and drug users who would be hassled more than the few thugs with guns.






As I would expect you to know anyways, cops have a lot of leeway in terms of frisking people down for almost any reason.

FindLaw | Cases and Codes

Do some research before thinking you're going to save the world and make us safer through the removal of our civil liberties.

[generic_hippie]

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

I think that your entire question is based on false assumptions. And even if they were true, it wouldnt be an excuse to do what they do.

which assumptions specifically?

I mean, never mind that those assumptions have already been summarily dismissed as irrelevant by you, I would like for you to specify which assumtions you believe I based my statements on are false.

[generic_hippie]

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

But random searches on the street. Fiine with me.

What if through no fault of your own you found yourself on the streets where these searches took place, instead of in your own bubble of safety?

What if, again through no fault of your own, and a genetic inheritance that instead of providing financial security and choices, your genetic heritage provides you with an intellect incapable of rising above menial labour and minimum wage employment?

What if your limited intellect is spoonfed hate propaganda, fear and suspicion, while also being told to rise above your "status" and achieve the american dream of greatness, though yo are presented with nought but minimum wage opportunities, because, quite frankly, you are too limited in intellect to be trusted with anything other than mopping the slops trough at the abatoir?

These people who are told they aren't cool without the best Nikes, the latest and greatest iPod, and what ever the fuck else middle to low class wealthy prats like you take for granted, these people have no choice but to follow the other great american dream of dominance through superior fire power, shock and fricken awe because we know, in reality, no matter how many minimum wage jobs they can hold at once, no matter how they scrip and save, there just is never going to be enough pennies in their pile to buy a home in the indigenous area.

Now quit bitching because some disadvantaged kid pointed a gun at you and made you wet yourself and work toward some real fricken equity in society, snot box.