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Old 07-03-2008, 08:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Based on or subject to individual judgment or preference: The diet imposes overall calorie limits, but daily menus are arbitrary.
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:27 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Sure, just write this off like all the other evidence that indicates significant improvement since the Surge began.

You're backing a candidate thats on the wrong side of the issue. Am I surprised? Not really. A little disappointed though.
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:51 AM   #23 (permalink)
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if your evidence of success is arbitrary benchmarks, it's not very compelling.

and i think you missed my point about "mission accomplished." we are seeing significant improvement in OUR agenda for the nation of iraq, not improvements in the actual situation iraq faces. what of the iraqis' agenda? these benchmarks and all evidence for their completion create an arbitrary sense of success which serves only to lend credibility to our own intentions.
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Old 07-03-2008, 01:47 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Shame on you. This is an extraordinarily serious situation and not only are you completely ignoring any relevant information about the situation, youre making old jokes.
That statement is absolute hypocrisy coming from you as that is the first thing you do in all serious, real world topic based threads.


15 out of 18 benchmarks are satisfactory. Wow i mean fuck if you deducted GOOD, BETTER or STABLE from "satisfactory" then there is no hope for you.

Thats the shit teachers put on Grade 2 report cards when describing the performance of a kid they didn't have the heart to flunk.
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Old 07-03-2008, 01:50 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Sure, just write this off like all the other evidence that indicates significant improvement since the Surge began.
Umm we are dismissing bullshit based on more bullshit. The surge had nothing to do with Sadr pulling his troops off of the streets, Iran talking to him did.

Would you like me to once again post all of the comments made by the "elected" Iraqis accusing the US and coalition forces of causing instability? Or the ones where they praise Ahmedinejad for bringing calm to the streets? You are still basing your opinions on Iraq on what your government is telling you about the situation on the ground, instead on the events and happenings of the actual situation on the ground.
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Old 07-03-2008, 03:05 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Chickenhawk Liars don't require benchmarks GOPervert!

Benchmark? What a fucking joke. Boosh lied numbnuts.
Nothing will justify killing 4000 Americans over a lie.
Nothing you or the other chickenhawks say will ever justify
taking the National Guard and much needed fire fighting equipment
to the middle east dessert to remove a nonissue.
Boosh I gave Sadamn the chemical weapons in the first place.
Now ugly American traitors sell out the treasury to pay for it
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Old 07-03-2008, 03:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Guess what? We never should of fucking gone there. We also have LOST CONTROL OF AFGHANISTAN, have completely underfunded the effort there.

You act like these 15/18 benchmarks were
A) Evaluated by a outside source and not the bush administration. Especially during election time, you think they are going to really going to hold that much scrutiny to these "standards". You think Bush is going to have someone neutral to him analyze these? You know what "satisfactory" means? In the military it means "meeting the standard"
B) Were costfree.1 TRILLION DOLLARS. 4,000+ Dead Servicemen, regional destabilization, and possibly 100,000+ Iraquis dead. A weakened military as well.
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Old 07-03-2008, 03:48 PM   #29 (permalink)
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cant say thanks without asking if you've busted anymore potheads lately though dex?

You really are evolving huh?

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cant say thanks without asking if you've busted anymore potheads lately though dex?

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Let's destroy a country, set benchmarks to decide when that country is no longer considered destroyed, declare we have achieved such benchmarks and then question the unbelievers.
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:51 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Here are the real benchmarks. this comes from top secret US military files, so keep it on the ([{downlow]}) and please do not repost it or tell anyone where it came from...

1) Steal the OIL for US corporations
2) FUNNEL as much money to US MILITARY INDUSTRIAL CORPORATIONS AS POSSIBLE
3) Kill as many SAND NIGGER BABIES as possible
4) Kill as many SAND NIGGER WOMEN as possible
5) Kill as many SAND NIGGER MEN as possible
6) Kill as many SAND NIGGER CHILDREN as possible
7) Make the world cower in fear at US military might
8) Install a ROTHCHILD CENTRAL BANK in Iraq (one of the few nations that still dont have one)
9) RAPE as many SAND NIGGER WOMEN as possible
10) RAPE as many SAND NIGGER MEN as possible
11) RAPE as many SAND NIGGER TEENS as possible
12) TORTURE as many SAND NIGGERS as possible
13) FUNNEL as much taxpayer money to US CORPORATIONS as possible
14) FUNNEL as much MORE money to US MILITARY INDUSTRIAL CORPORATIONS AS POSSIBLE
15) Steal MORE OIL for US corporations
16) LIE, LIE, LIE about the whole fraudulent scam
17) SETUP MORE PERMANENT MILITARY BASES in the middle east
18) Facilitate the PRODUCTION and theft of OPIUM in the middle east.

shhhhhhhhh. keep it on the downlow. the [cia] is watching. you heard it here first.
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:55 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Now those sound like much more realistic US goals to me...
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theyre acing the benchmarks if you ask me. HOOOOOAH!
those old nazi-semites are some keen dictators. they know how to run an emipre thats 4 sure.
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:45 PM   #35 (permalink)
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hey, i wonder when your average german citizen considered the actions of the german nazi government as genocide?

i wonder when the average u.s. citizen will consider what we have done in central asia and the middle east as genocide, or maybe well have to start a few more wars?
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well, im not so sure that the history of these things in germany is really as we know them and have heard. fact is is that the media is highly corrupt and in the wrong hands to expect any accuracy regarding such things. the propaganda is thick.

that being said, it is impossible for the USA, land of the free patriots and home of the brave saints of the Earth to ever commit genocide. even if we kill them all off it is only in the best interest of liberating them from a tyrannical dictatorship. thats what fox news says, our staunch israeli mast...eruuum....all ies will agree, and im stickin with that.
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