This REALLY trips my trigger

Snikks · 07-05-2008, 09:16 AM

The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy reported last month that a teenager who has been depressed in the past year was more than twice as likely to have used marijuana than teenagers who have not reported being depressed (25 percent compared with 12 percent). The study said marijuana use increased the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent. So much for the "harmless" nature of pot.

Read more here................ ..
Townhall.com::"Weeds" and Marijuana Chic::By Brent Bozell III

Warning, by clicking the link above, you agree to stay calm.

DubStyle311 · 07-05-2008, 09:25 AM

I take it you think this is untrue?

From the way its worded it seems that drug use is the independent variable. I would not surprise me at all to hear depressed kids smoke pot moreso than happy kids. I also thing that using any drug will increase the risk of developing mental disorders. It happened to one of the posters here that I knew irl.

Smaerd · 07-05-2008, 10:19 AM

I know of a whack dude who devoloped a weird form of OCD from anxiety thinking marijuana ruined his life because of the propaganda he had received.

Did anyone ever stop to think, these teenagers tried marijuana because they already were depressed just looking for a life change. Depressed people are more likely to try anything to change their situation. Hence why young developing minded teenagers shouldn't frequently use marijuana.

and when you misuse marijuana (anytime you use a substance to "solve" a problem is misuse) to try to solve the problem of depression. It only harms the users mental state further. It is not the Marijuana that is pushing depression into a worse figure, it is the users inhabitions and thoughts of what marijuana is, and their frequency of escaping reality. That link is honestly just more propaganda, once again dub-style? Why are you here?

I know the first time I smoked marijuana I was not ready to continuosly use, and still did. Luckily it has no mental bearing on me. But marijuana can be confusing to children as it should be.

ziplock · 07-05-2008, 10:43 AM

Yay another useless study.

Snikks · 07-05-2008, 10:50 AM

:Quote:

That link is honestly just more propaganda,
*******
My point exactly! How is it possible to combat straight out lies with the truth?

"Human beings can always be counted on, to assert with vigor their God-given right to be stupid."

LetsPlayYourWay · 07-05-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

I take it you think this is untrue?

From the way its worded it seems that drug use is the independent variable. I would not surprise me at all to hear depressed kids smoke pot moreso than happy kids. I also thing that using any drug will increase the risk of developing mental disorders. It happened to one of the posters here that I knew irl.

GTFO already.

Smaerd · 07-05-2008, 11:05 AM

If pot were to be legalized I'm sure there would be an age limit on it anyways.

stoneric · 07-05-2008, 11:05 AM

I don't get the point of these studies. I see no MJ advocate group condoning the us of MJ by 12 year olds. And the fact that it was done by the white house office of national drug policy makes it a joke to start with.

Smaerd · 07-05-2008, 11:11 AM

dub-style thinks it's pure though so maybe we should look into it further... Nah I'm still not getting it. Anyone else?

The culture that you deemed "doomed" even supports what I said, "Young niggas try and solve problems by smoking reefer, your only getting high, and your problems become bigger".

Project Pat - Purple
that line starts at 1:11 -

Dozer McDozer · 07-05-2008, 01:56 PM

ok wow smoking weed and doing other shit does not cause depression, there are so many factors that can cause someone to be depressed. This is fuckin bullshit.

But if you smoke everyday and do when you feel bad and stuff, you aren't helping yourself one bit. Procrastination can further your problems and make you feel worse.

DubStyle311 · 07-05-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dozer McDozer

weed and doing other shit does not cause depression, there are so many factors that can cause someone to be depressed.

This makes no sense. There are so many factors that cause someone to be depressed...but not weed.

Flamingnun · 07-05-2008, 04:16 PM

you've both just said exactly the same thing using different wording.

generic_hippie · 07-05-2008, 04:28 PM

The ignorance being displayed in this thread is astounding.

It is just as statistically likely that people who are depressed use drugs as it is that drug use causes depression.

The idea that one toke on a joint will fuck you up for life though, 25+ years of introducing virgin smokers to my culture tells me its very unlikely, not to mention the notion is empirically unprovable.

Weed, if used appropriately, has the opposite effect of depression in most cases, euphoric feelings abound.

If you begin your weed usage (or any drug), as a means of escaping reality, then chances are it will fuck you up. I suggest though, it would be more appropriate to consider the pattern of and motivation for use as the problem, rather than the drug of choice.

DubStyle311 · 07-05-2008, 04:29 PM

I was being sarcastic.

generic_hippie · 07-05-2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

I was being sarcastic.

Schtik to the topic please dubstyle311, dont derail the conversation because people are disagreeing with you.

stoneric · 07-05-2008, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

I was being sarcastic.

No shit?

Jimmy Coonan · 07-06-2008, 12:57 PM

It shouldn't come as a shock to anyone that people who don't like their reality are more likely to do things to try to escape it.

WildWill · 07-06-2008, 07:19 PM

Brent Bozell is an idiot who's word means very, very little - plus anyone with half a brain read that article and said 'well, he's a frackking idiot.'

The logic they used was faulty - then again, it's the government, when have they used quality logic?

Prophet Saddam · 07-08-2008, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubStyle311

I take it you think this is untrue?

From the way its worded it seems that drug use is the independent variable. I would not surprise me at all to hear depressed kids smoke pot moreso than happy kids. I also thing that using any drug will increase the risk of developing mental disorders. It happened to one of the posters here that I knew irl.

Got anything to back this up, or is it just guesses and limited personal life experience?

Roach · 07-08-2008, 08:27 AM

mental disorder = treatable medical condition = marijuana addiction

prescription = copious amounts of marijuana

07-05-2008, 09:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Snikks Twist it up! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 20 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	This REALLY trips my trigger The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy reported last month that a teenager who has been depressed in the past year was more than twice as likely to have used marijuana than teenagers who have not reported being depressed (25 percent compared with 12 percent). The study said marijuana use increased the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent. So much for the "harmless" nature of pot. Read more here................ .. Townhall.com::"Weeds" and Marijuana Chic::By Brent Bozell III Warning, by clicking the link above, you agree to stay calm.

07-05-2008, 09:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
DubStyle311 YaHookan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: down the highway Posts: 7,323 Thanks: 0 Thanked 72 Times in 62 Posts	I take it you think this is untrue? From the way its worded it seems that drug use is the independent variable. I would not surprise me at all to hear depressed kids smoke pot moreso than happy kids. I also thing that using any drug will increase the risk of developing mental disorders. It happened to one of the posters here that I knew irl. __________________ I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

07-05-2008, 10:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Smaerd observations kill me Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vagrant Status Posts: 1,900 Thanks: 236 Thanked 289 Times in 213 Posts	I know of a whack dude who devoloped a weird form of OCD from anxiety thinking marijuana ruined his life because of the propaganda he had received. Did anyone ever stop to think, these teenagers tried marijuana because they already were depressed just looking for a life change. Depressed people are more likely to try anything to change their situation. Hence why young developing minded teenagers shouldn't frequently use marijuana. and when you misuse marijuana (anytime you use a substance to "solve" a problem is misuse) to try to solve the problem of depression. It only harms the users mental state further. It is not the Marijuana that is pushing depression into a worse figure, it is the users inhabitions and thoughts of what marijuana is, and their frequency of escaping reality. That link is honestly just more propaganda, once again dub-style? Why are you here? I know the first time I smoked marijuana I was not ready to continuosly use, and still did. Luckily it has no mental bearing on me. But marijuana can be confusing to children as it should be. Last edited by Smaerd; 07-05-2008 at 10:22 AM.

07-05-2008, 10:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
ziplock Dreamer of the dreams Join Date: May 2004 Location: British Columbia Posts: 1,979 Thanks: 10 Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts	Yay another useless study. __________________ Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about. Rumi Those who hate most fervently must have once loved deeply; those who want to deny the world must have once embraced what they now set on fire. Kurt Tucholsky a spoken silence

07-05-2008, 11:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
Smaerd observations kill me Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vagrant Status Posts: 1,900 Thanks: 236 Thanked 289 Times in 213 Posts	If pot were to be legalized I'm sure there would be an age limit on it anyways. __________________ Peace, Love, Unity, Respect.

07-05-2008, 10:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Snikks Twist it up! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 20 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	:Quote: That link is honestly just more propaganda, ******* My point exactly! How is it possible to combat straight out lies with the truth? "Human beings can always be counted on, to assert with vigor their God-given right to be stupid."

07-05-2008, 11:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 171 Times in 131 Posts	I don't get the point of these studies. I see no MJ advocate group condoning the us of MJ by 12 year olds. And the fact that it was done by the white house office of national drug policy makes it a joke to start with.

07-05-2008, 11:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Smaerd observations kill me Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vagrant Status Posts: 1,900 Thanks: 236 Thanked 289 Times in 213 Posts	dub-style thinks it's pure though so maybe we should look into it further... Nah I'm still not getting it. Anyone else? The culture that you deemed "doomed" even supports what I said, "Young niggas try and solve problems by smoking reefer, your only getting high, and your problems become bigger". Project Pat - Purple that line starts at 1:11 - __________________ Peace, Love, Unity, Respect. Last edited by Smaerd; 07-05-2008 at 12:30 PM.

07-05-2008, 01:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dozer McDozer yahookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: whaa...huh? Posts: 507 Thanks: 54 Thanked 40 Times in 36 Posts	ok wow smoking weed and doing other shit does not cause depression, there are so many factors that can cause someone to be depressed. This is fuckin bullshit. But if you smoke everyday and do when you feel bad and stuff, you aren't helping yourself one bit. Procrastination can further your problems and make you feel worse.

07-05-2008, 04:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Flamingnun dot dot dot Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 16,866 Thanks: 37 Thanked 243 Times in 134 Posts	you've both just said exactly the same thing using different wording. __________________

07-05-2008, 04:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
generic_hippie question authority Join Date: May 2003 Location: 20 km's from Nimbin, Australia Posts: 4,180 Thanks: 61 Thanked 190 Times in 139 Posts	The ignorance being displayed in this thread is astounding. It is just as statistically likely that people who are depressed use drugs as it is that drug use causes depression. The idea that one toke on a joint will fuck you up for life though, 25+ years of introducing virgin smokers to my culture tells me its very unlikely, not to mention the notion is empirically unprovable. Weed, if used appropriately, has the opposite effect of depression in most cases, euphoric feelings abound. If you begin your weed usage (or any drug), as a means of escaping reality, then chances are it will fuck you up. I suggest though, it would be more appropriate to consider the pattern of and motivation for use as the problem, rather than the drug of choice. __________________ All we are saying is give POT to everybody all the time...

07-05-2008, 04:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
DubStyle311 YaHookan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: down the highway Posts: 7,323 Thanks: 0 Thanked 72 Times in 62 Posts	I was being sarcastic. __________________ I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

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