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Old 07-09-2008, 04:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Senate caves, telecoms saved

A sad day for America. Utterly disgusting.



Senate commits to shielding telecoms from suits

Here is a list of the traitors.

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Wicker (R-MS)
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It seems Feingold is the only one who ever gets it. In the senate, that is.
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Why isn't Obama's name on this list?

He voted for it. Was his name edited out to help him save face?
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Surprisingly (or perhaps not surprisingly) hard to find:

Obama's FISA Vote Goes Against Dem Leadership Grain | The Trail | washingtonpost.com


It looks like Saddam only listed 66 of the 69 "traitors". I don't know if he did the editing or if just got a biased source, but I wonder who else isnt listed there.
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disgusting. equally disgusting is the fact that our government did this in the first place.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Obama's FISA Vote Goes Against Dem Leadership Grain | The Trail | washingtonpost.com


It looks like Saddam only listed 66 of the 69 "traitors". I don't know if he did the editing or if just got a biased source, but I wonder who else isnt listed there.
It looks like you are trying to change the topic again. The mere fact that there was a single YEA vote shows america is headed in the wrong direction regardless of which assholes are voting for it or not.

AS for the full list,

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
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Oh my freakin' lord, I just realized the dem and rep are in cohoots.

I'm still going to vote for Barack.

I don't want to vote for the losing team.

I wanna bet on the winning horse.

I wouldn't want to throw my vote away.
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Saddam,

Whats the story on the edited list you posted?
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It seems Feingold is the only one who ever gets it. In the senate, that is.
Yeah, Feingold's great. He's from my state.

Obama is disappointing a lot of people with this vote. But keep in mind that criminal charges are still at play, this bill blocks civil lawsuits. Unless they ended up amending the bill that I didn't hear about.
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What is this we shit that youre talking about? Its the 'rich' who are paying for the war.

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It's impressive how fast they protected the corportations,
when there is a real bill waiting to be passed that will help

The Morgage Meltdown
the Oil Speculation Price hike


09-17-2007 - Levin Introduces Bill to Close Enron Loophole and Prevent Manipulation and Excessive Speculation in Energy Markets : Senator Carl Levin: News Release




The Enron loophole, included in the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of
2000, has allowed large volumes of energy derivatives contracts to be traded
over-the-counter, OTC, and on electronic platforms, without the federal
oversight necessary to protect both the integrity of the market and energy
consumers.

The legislation has the general support of the CFTC, the electronic exchange
known as ICE, the New York Mercantile Exchange, the Chicago Mercantile,
and the President’s Working Group on Financial Markets.

The legislation also increases transparency in energy markets to deter traders
from manipulating the price of oil and natural gas futures traded on electronic markets.

The bill gives the CFTC new authority to punish manipulation, fraud, and price distortion.




This could fix "everything".
But bush is threatening to veto another recent Mortgage Relief for Families Biill that's even weaker than the Enron Loop hole bill.

So you can see it'll be awhile, before we get any relief.

I didn't even know this bill existed until some caller on c-span's washingto journal mentioned it.

The Enron Loop hole Bill would also help regulate
The Speculation on your Credit Score driving up Loan payments and Morgage payments.

The current computer system calculats your Credit Score.
So, if you sneeze the wrong way your score is fucked!
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