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Business Ethics 101
It's really remarkable how much business schools focus on ethics and corporate social responsibility these days. I can say from first hand experience that in every single business class I took in my undergraduate career, part of the course discussed ethics. This was not just a coincidence. At my school, the administration made this a requirement for the teachers. Businesses and business people tend to get a very bad rap when it comes to these things because honestly, there are a lot of corporate scandals with scumbag people taking advantage of things. These days it is just as important for people to be prepared to face ethical dilemmas as it is they can read financial statements.
I was lucky enough to have some great teachers who really helped prepare me for these situations. One of my favorite lectures was about this stuff. Many people here and in liberal arts programs make the argument that the corporation is evil and inherently unethical because its sole reason for existing is to raise shareholder value. They cite examples such as Enron and Worldcom scandals where people made morally abhorrent decisions so their stock price could rise a few points. What the people who make that argument don't seem to understand is that unethical behavior is NOT in the corporations best interest. "Bad behavior, once found out, will ALWAYS lead to lower stock prices." Everyone needs to understand that you will face these types of decisions once entering the work force. Bud Head even brought this up a few days ago in a post where he mentioned that financially he is being held back because he wont engage in the unethical practices other people in his field partake in. Situations come up where making the right decision will mean you make less money, advance slower, or even lose your job. What it comes down to is integrity. What is more valuable, that extra money in your pocket or your word as a man. To sum up, I just want to let people know that ethics in business is a major focus of just about every good business school out there. I dont think that was the case 10 or 20 years ago. It's a vitally important part of schooling that is being addressed and I dont think that enough people know just how much training in business ethics that students get these days. Quote:
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i personally think bad business is on its way out. the systems of finance which have engendered such immoral behavior will be molded into a more transparent scheme and be lead by what most befits the prosperity of all parties involved. there will be no such thing as bad deals because doing the right thing is lucrative. businesses rise and fall along with their customers, clients, and, most importantly, workforce. better business practices won't have to be legislated, it's the natural culmination of this capitalist test.
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^ Agreed, it's just that the business practices that are focused on greed and manipulation are still, by and large, the 'norm.'
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what makes me think that it's happening or what makes me think it's the natural culmination of capitalism? i can very plainly see it happening, and this thread provides further proof that it's actually being impressed upon those who would enter the business world while their career is budding. and that's good news! but i see it as a natural culmination because i understand the idea of a process. it's like evolution. . . there are selective pressures for business and the economy as with anything else. practices which end in failure are rooted out because they are not lucrative, while practices which lead to success are reinforced. it just so happens that ethical business yields success more often than unethical business.
i see it as the same mechanism which governed our evolution and the growth of our capacities: working together is more successful than working alone. working as a group to take down that large animal works better for everyone than individually hunting smaller game. but what if someone thought they'd be clever and kill a rival in the hunt? they might end up losing the game or even dying themselves. time and time again life has proven that when you cheat you're really only cheating your self in the end. "Bad behavior, once found out, will ALWAYS lead to lower stock prices." and it will be found out. you'd just be the most recent in a long line of failures, however successful you might think yourself now.
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Hey ET, I remember ages ago you mentioned that you were getting into business for yourself. How has that gone? You seem to have a little bit different perspective on things these days.
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a little cynical voice in me says, oh im sure they are teaching it in schools, but the world is so wicked anyway. people that worship mammon will forget their ethics training in the blink of an eye.
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I agree with verk for one major reason: accountability. Accountability is something that is becoming ever-more required in our shrinking world. Our societies globalization forces everyone into being more open and empathetic. This doesn't mean that the desire for greed or corruption will ever die out completely, it's just that people engulfed in such things will realise that they musn't continue with corrupt practice because of the likelyhood of being caught. Once your caught with your hands red your reputation is shot. Once your shot in todays world, the scar's gonna be in the limelight, believe it.
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you can't explain the rules of tennis to a dog, but he runs after it and plays with it...like the dog playing with the ball, we don't have the necessary tools needed to interpret the afterlife..until we get there, then a whole new universe is given to us. Perhaps 200 billion light years away, there's the next phase of our existance..Remember you cannot destroy energy, which is all we are... -matthew munari rip matt
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My perspective has definitely changed on things, in the respect that I basically gave up buying into the 'Prison Planet' fear mongering as much as I stopped buying into the fear mongering of the Mainstream media as well. I decided to stop assuming I knew what is happening in the world right now, enjoy and make something self-worthy of my life and let the story tell itself. I still believe and recognize a lot of the same things concerning 9/11, the coming/occurring changes happening, the corruption and atrocities happening all around the world, etc.. It's just that instead of being paralyzed by my own mind making assumptions, I chose to be happy now and change the world however I felt I could to fit the world I want to see all around me. I can't change Human Nature in other people, but I can change it in myself and that is really where all changes in consciousness that we've gone through have begun in the first place. Business and capitalism are essential to the world right now but are just not in check with human rights, wealth distribution, sustainability in terms of the Earth and plain out mindfulness. But as per your other post, I feel that changing everyday and I am glad to be a part of that process by maintaining the same ethics in my business as well as finding new ways to give back to the world as much as I consume from it. /rant
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I didn't know any of that, ET. Thats really good to hear. I'm actually getting ready to go into business for myself as well. I'm going to be starting with door to door sales work. I'm still dabling in and out of precisely what kind of company I will eventually open, but for now I'm going to be offering personal financing/accounting help and I'm also going into energy conservation technology. If you have any tips for a newb to the game, get at my PM box or just post up here man!
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Glad you're taking the leap dude. It can be nerve-racking for the first couple of months but once I realized how much freedom I had, it turned into an adventure. My only advice is, maintain integrity and always do your personal best with people. I can't tell you how much residual business comes in from just putting the money secondary to the customer. And 9 out of 10 times, it comes back ten-fold than if I would have just followed the dollar. It's just two ways of gaining status, light vs. dark. I find that if I just help people for the sake of helping them, everything else just falls into place.
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Yea. For sure.
I'm just starting to word my one sentence mission statement for my buisness. This is my first draft... -To increase economically and personally the wealth of the world through honest and intelligent business. I think the wording on this allows for a broad stroke of thought, while at the same time ultimately guiding my startup business in the right direction. BTW: I'm going to be starting up a webpage within a few months and am looking to hire someone to help me construct the page with me. Maybe we can work out something, ET. |
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Definitely dude. Hit me up on email; egotripped@gmail.com and we can discuss it whenever you're ready.
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Hmm looking at the few ethics courses being offered by the top Business schools it is clear why dub loves them. They aren't teaching ethics, rather ways to prevent unethical behaviour from coming to light.
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