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10-04-2009, 06:52 PM
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Zero is right, we will never change a mind here or anywhere. However one can be awakened in a moment , when all things seem to fall together. As far as the Alex Jones tape (left right paradigm) I think it is unsophisticated and I would have done it better. But sophistication can be used (even by the few Yahookan Snobs) as a means to suppess, to dismiss one's opinion as worthless.
For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." -David Rockefeller, from his own book, Memoirs.
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10-04-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by flappy
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Zero is right, we will never change a mind here or anywhere.
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Pretty arrogant to think you could and self righteous to think you should.
And if that's what you came here to do, then it's your mind that needs to be freed, not someone else's.
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10-05-2009, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by zerodown
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You can't change a mind that has already been set on certain beliefs simply by showing them evidence, that is why its so sad.
Thats why one of my favorite sayings is: The best slave is the one who thinks himself free.
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no, the best is one who believes with all his heart that he's a slave but won't do a damn thing about it: he keeps other slaves in line by making lunacy the alternative to a regular life. if we have a slave/police state, alex jones plays prima donna
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10-05-2009, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by verklingen
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no, the best is one who believes with all his heart that he's a slave but won't do a damn thing about it: he keeps other slaves in line by making lunacy the alternative to a regular life. if we have a slave/police state, alex jones plays prima donna
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Thank you for proving my point.
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10-05-2009, 07:45 AM
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likewise, champ
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10-05-2009, 08:20 AM
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Geeze Zerodown, I would think with all the time and thought you have invested in knowing so much about the coming inevitable enslavement of the US and possibly the world, you could be organizing a revolution to fight back against it.
But wait...let me guess...you have a job to go to? Rent to pay? Just too damn scared and lazy? Or perhaps you just are another YouTube armchair patriot?
I'm interested to hear.
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10-05-2009, 09:58 AM
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alterEgo and Verk (one and the same)...always popping out to disrespect and insult anyone with a different point of view. I'm going to cry, in fact, I'll cry all day for these motherfuckers.
"I don't really remember where I was. I remember incidents throughout the day, but not really "where I was." I remember crying a lot that day." (Ego{Mr.Sensitive}Tr ipp).
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10-05-2009, 10:08 AM
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what are you talking about dipshit the guy flat out called me a "mindslave" and continually asserts i lack reason and the ability to think for myself. i went easy on him
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10-05-2009, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by flappy
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"I don't really remember where I was. I remember incidents throughout the day, but not really "where I was." I remember crying a lot that day." (Ego{Mr.Sensitive}Tr ipp).
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Why do you keep posting this? He obviously doesn't think there is anything wrong with men showing emotion. Why should he?
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10-05-2009, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by stoneric
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Why do you keep posting this? He obviously doesn't think there is anything wrong with men showing emotion. Why should he?
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Because his role is the bully and hardass of the room. You think he really cried all day or just said so, to impress you that he is a super pro-American Flag type?
Get hip to these guys that hammer the same old party line at you, and use bogus emotion so you think they actually have some compassion about anything
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10-05-2009, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by verklingen
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what are you talking about dipshit the guy flat out called me a "mindslave" and continually asserts i lack reason and the ability to think for myself. i went easy on him
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Big deal. You and your alterEgo are always calling people "dipshit" and more. Take the high road.
Also you guys have never have said who you support. . . Hannity, Obama, McChrystal, Beck ,etc.?
How about the issues that will affect real people: Healthcare Plan that will fine people or send them to jail for not participating ...good or bad idea?
Cap&Trade which will triple utilitie bills..good for a green planet?
Is Global Warming not open for debate?
Corporate medicine vs natural supplements. Take a stand on something without vague generalities and over-intellectualising.
Bottom line, don't react with ghetto terms when someone hurts your feelings. That's not the NYU Way.
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10-05-2009, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by flappy
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Because his role is the bully and hardass of the room. You think he really cried all day or just said so, to impress you that he is a super pro-American Flag type?
Get hip to these guys that hammer the same old party line at you, and use bogus emotion so you think they actually have some compassion about anything
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He's never impressed me as anything near a "super pro-american flag type". That's one of the reasons I respect him and Verk. They don't follow any party line.
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10-05-2009, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by flappy
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Because his role is the bully and hardass of the room. You think he really cried all day or just said so, to impress you that he is a super pro-American Flag type?
Get hip to these guys that hammer the same old party line at you, and use bogus emotion so you think they actually have some compassion about anything
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you know nothing about this forum or anyone who posts on it, and i'm not sure you know much of anything else because in lieu of presenting compelling thoughts or arguments you quote others. when that doesn't work you resort to personal attacks based on very shallow assumptions about people that even a passing familiarity with their posts would prove to be hopelessly ignorant. you're nothing new here; this place has always been awash with obstacles to good discussion
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10-05-2009, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by flappy
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Because his role is the bully and hardass of the room. You think he really cried all day or just said so, to impress you that he is a super pro-American Flag type?
Get hip to these guys that hammer the same old party line at you, and use bogus emotion so you think they actually have some compassion about anything
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.................... ..the fuck?
This guy is completely bonkers...and obviously doesn't know shit about this forum.
And thanks, stoneric.
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10-05-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flappy
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Big deal. You and your alterEgo are always calling people "dipshit" and more. Take the high road.
Also you guys have never have said who you support. . . Hannity, Obama, McChrystal, Beck ,etc.?
How about the issues that will affect real people: Healthcare Plan that will fine people or send them to jail for not participating ...good or bad idea?
Cap&Trade which will triple utilitie bills..good for a green planet?
Is Global Warming not open for debate?
Corporate medicine vs natural supplements. Take a stand on something without vague generalities and over-intellectualising.
Bottom line, don't react with ghetto terms when someone hurts your feelings. That's not the NYU Way.
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perhaps if you made a thread relevant to these topics a discussion regarding them could ensue. . . . but off the bat i can tell it wouldn't happen easily with all the one-sided assumptions you pasted alongside those issues. you've gotta learn to discuss properly if you want worthwhile answers
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10-05-2009, 11:50 AM
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Thanks for your comments on the issues , VerGoTripp. How you guys pop up at the same time is mahvelous.
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10-05-2009, 11:56 AM
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And perhaps if he didn't want black and white answers. Apparently, you are either a Infowars fan or you're a Glenn Beck Super Pro American.
And no flappy, we're not the same guy. We just happen to have similar sentiments about the world and don't subscribe to any single viewpoint. You're so far up Alex Jones's ass, you somehow think that the members here don't already know 99% of the stuff you recycle. We're all very hip here to conspiracies about global enslavement and the sinister modus operandi of the shadow illuminati government. We just don't believe that's the entire answer. I read and follow a variety of news sources, from MSNBC/CNN/Fox to NPR and Drudge report, to Infowars and PrisonPlanet, all the way to spiritual channellings. We're not the close minded ones here, you are, because for some reason you think you know what's happening. Sorry kiddo, you don't know, just as you don't know anything about the members who post at Yahooka. I'm far from a bully, far from "pro-american" and Verk lives over a thousand miles from me, so it's quite impossible for us to be the same person. You're pretty much wrong about every single assumption you've made. That has to be some kind of record, to be that wrong about that much shit.
So, congrats. Now go away pleeeeeeeeeeaassssee ee and let the forum return to it's standard level of intelligence before you joined and stupified it for a bit.
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10-05-2009, 12:28 PM
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"You're so far up Alex Jones's ass. . ." That's VerkoTripp's "level of intelligence" he talks about ...
Again, a lot of generalities but never any absolutes, never taking an unpopular stand. always the doubletalk smattered with insults.
Keep talking.
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10-05-2009, 12:39 PM
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Stone dig it. . .
Two bully and badger on one, then the person folds
...then the person gets a thank you, then they thank each other.
Watch them work.
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10-05-2009, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by flappy
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Stone dig it. . .
Two bully and badger on one, then the person folds
...then the person gets a thank you, then they thank each other.
Watch them work.
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You haven't exactly let it die. I'd bet my ass you'd get along well with their type in the real world. I can tell you how they feel about hannity,beck, mcchrystal(or any other general),obama or the health care plan. They're very succient on how they feel, you just don't always agree. Anyway, I'm not going to take sides since I think you have made some good comments on our foreign policy and they're 2 of my favorite posters. Bury the hatchet.
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