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Old 10-03-2009, 11:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jew-cy story here: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a Jew

Yes, you read that right.

No, this is not an early April Fools prank.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.

Alerted to me by someone who visits holocaust survivors' son Norman Finkelstein's website.



By Damien McElroy and Ahmad Vahdat
Published: 7:30AM BST 03 Oct 2009

Ahmadinejad showing papers during election. It shows that his family's previous name was Jewish

A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.

A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.

The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.

The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.

Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past.

Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him.

"Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith.

"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society."

A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews.

"He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran."

A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman.

The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for the switch.

Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four.

The Iranian president grew up to be a qualified engineer with a doctorate in traffic management. He served in the Revolutionary Guards militia before going on to make his name in hardline politics in the capital.

During this year's presidential debate on television he was goaded to admit that his name had changed but he ignored the jibe.

However Mehdi Khazali, an internet blogger, who called for an investigation of Mr Ahmadinejad's roots was arrested this summer.

Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly levelled bitter criticism at Israel, questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.'

Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations."

Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Jewish history is replete with Jews who renounced or denounced their Judaism and then became its harshist critics.

What (and who) is a self-hating Jew?

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Old 10-05-2009, 04:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Genesis chapter 25 (NLT)

19 This is the history of the family of Isaac, the son of Abraham.

20 When Isaac was forty years old, he married Rebekah, the daughter of Bethuel the
Aramean from Paddan-aram and the sister of Laban. 21 Isaac pleaded with the LORD to
give Rebekah a child because she was childless. So the LORD answered Isaac's prayer,
and his wife became pregnant with twins. 22 But the two children struggled with each
other in her womb. So she went to ask the LORD about it. "Why is this happening to
me?" she asked. 23 And the LORD told her, "The sons in your womb will become two
rival nations. One nation will be stronger than the other; the descendants of your older
son will serve the descendants of your younger son."
24 And when the time came, the
twins were born. 25 The first was very red at birth. He was covered with so much hair
that one would think he was wearing a piece of clothing. So they called him Esau. 26
Then the other twin was born with his hand grasping Esau's heel. So they called him
Jacob. Isaac was sixty years old when the twins were born.

The Beginning Of The Jewish Race (continued)
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Citing bible verses?!?

WTF??

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Guardian Debunks Report Ahmadinejad Is Jewish

Monday, October 5, 2009 5:42 PM

The Guardian debunked the claim of a rival newspaper that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is of Jewish lineage.

Guardian columnist Meir Javedanfar quoted experts in a column Monday that rebutted the claims in the London Daily Telegraph that Ahmadinejad's family converted to Islam after his birth.

The claim is based on a number of arguments, especially that his previous surname was Sabourjian, which "derives from weaver of the sabour, the name for the Jewish tallit shawl in Persia."

Professor David Yeroshalmi, author of "The Jews of Iran in the 19th Century" and an expert on Iranian Jewish communities, disputes the validity of the argument, Javedanfar wrote.

" it claims that his family converted to Islam after his birth. The claim is based on a number of arguments, a key one being that his previous surname was Sabourjian which 'derives from weaver of the sabour, the name for the Jewish tallit shawl in Persia'. Professor David Yeroshalmi, author of and an expert on Iranian Jewish communities, disputes the validity of this argument. 'There is no such meaning for the word 'sabour' in any of the Persian Jewish dialects, nor does it mean Jewish prayer shawl in Persian. Also, the name Sabourjian is not a well-known Jewish name,' he stated in a recent interview. In fact, Iranian Jews use the Hebrew word 'tzitzit' to describe the Jewish prayer shawl. Yeroshalmi, a scholar at Tel Aviv University's Center for Iranian Studies, also went on to dispute the article's findings that the '-jian' ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews. 'This ending is in no way sufficient to judge whether someone has a Jewish background. Many Muslim surnames have the same ending,' he stated. Upon closer inspection, a completely different interpretation of 'Sabourjian' emerges. According to Robert Tait, a Guardian correspondent who travelled to Ahmadinejad's native village in 2005, the name 'derives from thread painter sabor in Farsi a once common and humble occupation in the carpet industry in Semnan province, where Aradan is situated'. This is confirmed by Kasra Naji, who also wrote a biography of Ahmadinejad and met his family in his native village. Carpet weaving or colouring carpet threads are not professions associated with Jews in Iran."
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That's funny Mahmoud, you don't look Jewish.

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It's a parable on how we are all the same, sorry.
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