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Old 10-04-2009, 02:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Burnelli Aircraft Suppression

www.aircrash.org.org/Burnelli

Technical Reports

1935 - The Burnelli Aerofoil Body

The basic principle of the lifting fuselage as developed by V. J. Burnelli since
1919 is now in such an advanced stage that it is extremely important for the
Air Corps to experiment further with it with a view to reducing it to military practice.

General H.H. Arnold's Report
to Secretary of War Woodring


www.aircrash.org.org/Burnelli-American Business Review, March 15, 1930



As you can see, Burnelli's bid was devastating, nearly half of the second
lowest bidder and less than one-third of the competitor's average bid.
Further, Burnelli outperformed all the rest of all phases of the competition.
But instead of being awarded the contract, Burnelli became a target of
outrageous political maneuvering which culminated in the issue issuance of
deprecations of the Burnelli design from a Board of Review, headed by the
infamous General Bennett Myers (later jail for aircraft procurement crimes).


When General Arnold was advised of the Board of Review Report, he refused
to repudiate his original recommendation favoring Burnelli. Consequently the
matter was moved to his political superior, the Secretary of War, who wrote
Burnelli on November 13th, 1941 that his design "does not possess sufficient
merit for military purposes to warrant consideration by the War department."




www.aircrash.org.org/Burnelli-Evidence of suppression and official denial is overwhelming..




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Old 10-04-2009, 08:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Flying wings and lifting body aircraft have never been off the drawing board. Their efficiencies were realized fairly early. Unfortunately lifting body and flying wing designs are inherently aerodynamically unstable. Typically the most efficient designs are also the most unstable. There have been a few semi-successful designs such as the YB-49 which was canceled due to politics. The space shuttle emerged from lifting body research of the 1960's, although it's design is more conventional than lifting body.

The Burnelli design may have been deemed too unconventional or too risky at the time. But I don't see a conspiracy here. The design was probably simply ahead of it's time.

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Old 10-05-2009, 04:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, you convinced me.




www.aircrash.org.org/Burnelli- Sept 27, 1995 - Burnelli requests NASA make a licence agreement

THE ARTIST'S IMPRESSION IS A CLEAR-CUT BURNELLI CONFIGURATION
ALTHOUGH IT IS REFERRED TO AS A "BLENDED WING BODY".
THE PENTAGON USES THIS TERMINOLOGY,
BECAUSE THE "LIFTING BODY" TERMINOLOGY IS PROPRIETARY TO BURNELLI.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't get what you're arguing, that they're suppressing an aircraft design from public knowledge? So what? The SR-71 existed for the best part of two decades before it was public knowledge, I don't doubt for a second that planes (equivalent to the Aurora sketch above) exist, using scramjet technology, but as with the SR71, the main use for something so fast is reconnaissance, ergo: the less people know the better, for it to work as intended.

On a side note, Machrihanish isn't overly far from where I stay, and they definatley were operating a "black" airframe from there at some point, local lore dictates, during the base's operation there was always a blatant, high ranking military organisation security presence, stray too far from the golf course, and get accosted by armed (US) personnel. Plus they, for no apparent reason have the longest european runway, and recently upgraded to methane fuel storage facility's (how many planes use methane...?).
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Stolen for Military Purposes; Not for Public Safety

Suppress, Stole, eh what's the difference right?


As long as it takes twice the money and century to build.

How about some Experts... from Boeing in 1936?

www.aircrash.org.org/Burnelli- What the experts have said

1936--MESSRS. BALL, MINSHALL AND LAUDAN,
technical chiefs of the Boeing Aircraft Company, at the Aircraft Production
meeting of the Society of Automotive Engineers, Los Angeles:--
"Fuselages of the present type would disappear
and all equipment and load would be housed within the centre section of the wing."
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i really doubht the government suppresed a better aircraft design.

why would they?


the b2 and f117 were the first flying wings to be really succesful werent they ? and because of modern flying computers and fly by wire and shit right?

ill bet in the future their will be a commerical flying wing of some kind or another.
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Once again, you're really on top of things, buddy.

How about some kick ass references?
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im not saying this isnt interesting or informative , i guess i should have said that at the start, i just mean like i didnt really sift thru all that can u just explain consisely why the govt would do that?

is it cuz they stood to benefit financially in your view or something ?
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like on the one hand i remember hearing about the old project orion and thinking it was a pretty sweet idea- but then it required the nuke bombs to be used all the way as it rose so it would have ultimately been pretty unfeasible.... i just get the feeling that something like that is the reason why this plane didnt end up working. can u explain elsewise?
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www.aircrash.org.org/Burnelli-American Business Review, March 15, 1930

Really, it's not that much sifting through.

The quotes are short and to the point and dated.


Basicly, he was not apart of the "establishment".


www.aircrash.org.org/Burnelli- Charles F. Mullen Interview

In the late 1930's, after extensive examinations of flight test reports on
Burnelli aircraft and extensive wind tunnel tests of military models, Maj. Gen.
H.H. Arnold, Chief of United States Army Air Corps, signed a report to the
Secretary of War which extolled the excellence of the Burnelli Lifting Body
principle of design. The Arnold report ended with this quote: "in my opinion it
is essential, in the interest of national defense, that this procurement be
authorized." This report culminated in an invitation to Vincent J. Burnelli and
associates being invited to the Oval Office in the White House for a meeting
with President Roosevelt. The purpose was to celebrate the signing of a
presidential directive to order large quantities of Burnelli airplanes. However,
this meeting broke up without President Roosevelt signing the directive, and
it has been alleged that, in the midst of the meeting, President Roosevelt
learned that one of Burnelli's backers was Arthur E. Pew of the Sun Oil
Company. President Roosevelt threw his pen across the room and shouted that Burnelli would never receive any orders.

We at aircrash believe this was a pretext, a cover to destroy the Burnelli
Company for the purpose of transfering the technology to the Air Trust
discussed the introduction of this web-site as Burnelli was not part of the
establishment.
This corruption prevented the production of the superior,
safer and less costly Burnelli airplanes for World War II. The result of this
corruption were many thousands of avoidable aircrew deaths and the waste of
billions of taxpayer dollars in the production of thousands of the inferior
conventional planes. This waste of lives and dollars came about because 1)
more aircraft were downed by the enemy and 2) since the carrying capacity of
these aircraft was less than that of the Burnelli, more of them (including
more aircrew) were required to achieve the same results.



Snoop aroung the index of the main website:

www.aircrash.org/Burnelli Introduction


I didn't know shit about this, until the story of Boeing starting a new "Blended Wing Body" as a "safer" passenger transport.
(And in the middle of the report, something about Burnelli's Wife fighting NASA.)

That small line got my ears up.

and then off we go.
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Just for Fun.

How to Make Paper Frogs: Origami & Paper Crafts | eHow.com

The paper frog I learned in jr. high has the same folds as a glider,
but you use a whole sheet of paper instead of a perfect square.

The body of the frog is the under carrige and the "rest of the paper"
is the upper "one" wing.

It flys better than the old triangle two seperate wing paper plane.



another form of the one wing glider

Origami Glider




another form same basic Frog Body



Fold the nose only 1/3 instead of half and
fold and tuck the under body flap/legs one more time into the 1/3 folded nose.
It should fit snugg.
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Nevermind.

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