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Old 10-08-2009, 12:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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any idea whats happening in honduras right now?

honestly, why isnt honduras in the news?
if the media is so full of liberal activists, why is this being ignored?
or even the war in mexico?
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I hate to be ignorant but I have no idea whats going on in Honduras ?

American media is very crooked and designed to be poisonous to the citizens funded by politics go figure :'(.
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Honduras?

If you didn't mention it I'd almost forget there's a country called like that.
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You're right that the liberal media outlets have been ignoring Honduras. The conservative news outlets that I sometimes read have not been ignoring the story. Depends who who wants you to see and who does not.

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Old 10-08-2009, 11:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Recently, Republicans Congressmen were visiting the New Coup President of Honduras, while the people rioted out side.

Seems they are backing the coup, in favor of anti-socialism and Hugo "let's do coke" Chavez.

I wouldn't be suprised if the CIA were to over-run the Brazilian Embassy, via local paid thugs, and oust the "President" again, or kill him.

LIke that Iranian "Nukular" Scientist that dissappeared in Saudi Arabia on a pilgramige.

The Coup will succeed, as long as you let it.



Google.News: "Honduras, Republican"

Are Republicans Breaking US Law in Honduras?
CounterPunch - Brendan Cooney - ‎Oct 7, 2009‎
“He is the president of Honduras,” said Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the ranking
Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, on Monday. ...

South Florida Republicans, back from Honduras, call for US backing of elections MiamiHerald.com

Battle over Honduras policy heats up Foreign Policy
Fla. GOP lawmakers to visit new Honduras president The Associated Press

Examiner.com - Christian Science Monitor

all 1,890 news articles »Email this storyHonduras talks struggle with issue of Zelaya return
Reuters - Alan Elsner - ‎5 minutes ago‎

Republicans in the United States have criticized Obama for supporting
Zelaya's return. The ousted leader allied Honduras with leftist Venezuelan
President ...BBC NewsRepublicans visit Honduras despite US coup policy
The Associated Press - Ben Fox - ‎Oct 2, 2009‎

Florida Congressman Connie Mack, the ranking Republican on the US House
Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere, was the first US lawmaker to visit Honduras ...

Kerry, GOP senator tussle over Honduran trip Boston Globe

Defying Obama, Republican Senator Making Honduras Trip CBS News

Kerry's Attempt to Block DeMint's Honduras Trip Reveals Policy Feud
Washington Post

Brendan Cooney: Are Republicans Breaking US Law in Honduras?

Are Republicans Breaking US Law in Honduras?
By BRENDAN COONEY

As if the right needed to add to its anti-democratic pedigree, Republican
leaders have flocked to Tegucigalpa to bolster the junta in Honduras.

Nine Congressional Republicans – including seven in the past week as the
crisis heats up -- have now met with Roberto Micheletti, who took power
after a military coup June 28.

This is a coup that has been denounced by everyone from the Organization
of American States to the United Nations, which passed a resolution
calling “categorically on all states to recognise no government other than
that” of the elected president, Manuel Zelaya. No state has recognized Micheletti as president.


But U.S. Republicans have.

“He is the president of Honduras,” said Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the ranking
Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, on Monday. “Some
people tell me 'de facto' government, but under the Constitution of the
Republic I am seated here with the president of this country and it’s a great
honor.”

Leading us further down the rabbit hole is South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint,
a member of the Foreign Relations committee, who visited Micheletti and his
backers Oct. 2: “We saw a government working hard to follow the rule of
law, uphold its constitution, and to protect democracy for the people of
Honduras.”

Consistent with every other country, from Venezuela on the left to Colombia
on the right, U.S. President Barack Obama’s policy has been to not recognize
or meet with Micheletti.

Since contact with Micheletti is in direct conflict with stated U.S. interests,
these nine Republicans, as well as Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell,
who has aided them, seem to have broken U.S. law. The Logan Act says that
anyone who without government authorization “directly or indirectly
commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign
government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the
measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent
thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States,
or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title
or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

Tomas Ayuso, a research fellow at the Council on Hemispheric affairs who
spent the summer reporting on the crisis from Tegucigalpa, agrees. The
members of Congress meeting with Micheletti “are in violation of the Logan
Act,” he said.

washingtonpost.com
Kerry's Attempt to Block DeMint's Honduras Trip Reveals Policy Feud
By Mary Beth Sheridan
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 2, 2009

A simmering feud over U.S. policy toward Latin America burst into the open
Thursday when Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) tried to prevent a fact-finding
trip to Honduras by a Republican senator who is blocking two important
diplomatic appointments.

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) denounced Kerry's move on the
Senate floor and sought the intervention of the minority leader, Sen. Mitch
McConnell (R-Ky.). The Republican leader appealed to the Defense
Department to provide an aircraft for DeMint's trip and the Pentagon agreed
to do so, according to the South Carolina senator's office.


"These bullying tactics by the Obama administration and Senator Kerry must
stop, and we must be allowed to get to the truth in Honduras," DeMint said in
a statement. His spokesman, Wesley Denton, called Kerry's action "unprecedented."


Kerry fired back in a news release: "Senator DeMint's statement wins an A
for 'audacity.' Thanks to his intransigence, the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee can't even hold hearings on our policy in Central and South
America."

The statement, issued by Kerry's spokesman, Frederick Jones, added that
when DeMint allows a vote on the appointment of the two diplomats, "the
Committee will approve his travel to Honduras."

DeMint and a handful of other conservative Republicans have
said Zelaya's removal was legal because he had violated a constitutional ban
by trying to extend his presidential term. They have protested that the
Obama administration is supporting a politician with close ties to Venezuela's
leftist president, Hugo Ch?vez.


For weeks, DeMint has held up a critical Senate vote on Arturo Valenzuela,
Obama's choice to be assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere
affairs, and Thomas A. Shannon Jr., the nominee to be ambassador to Brazil.


DeMint aides said he was preparing to travel to Honduras on Friday with
three Republican House members -- Aaron Schock (Ill.), Peter Roskam (Ill.)
and Doug Lamborn (Colo.) -- when they learned that the trip had been nixed
by Kerry.

As head of the Foreign Relations Committee, Kerry can withhold committee
funds for travel and deny permission for the use of military aircraft. But he
had never before used that power to block another senator's travel, his aides said.

DeMint's office said Thursday evening that thanks to
McConnell's intervention, the trip would go forward. DeMint's statement
accused the State Department of being part of the effort to block his trip.


But Philip J. Crowley, a State Department spokesman, denied that it had
played any such role.
"We don't control congressional travel," he said.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I only watch the BBC so I would say I get a decent amount of information on the situation, though it isn't suprising American outlets are ignoring it. What I find ironic is a news agency thousands of miles away is more interested than our own media, which is practically neighbor to the country in question.
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well I know a bit about it, I'll tell you what I know:

The elected president was thrown out by the country militia(who later was discovered were funded by hilary clinton), exiled, the people who voted for him are pissed off about it and the country is a total chaos after the coup. The militia even shut down news stations that supported president zelaya. Last I heard he returned to the country, but I lost track on the issue.

If you want to get the full story read from this site: The Field: Al Giordano Reports the United States

this guy has been covering the issue since it began, notice I linked to page 15 on his website, cause thats the first news which reads:

Obama: "Deeply Concerned" Over Kidnapping of Honduran President

A statement by US President Barack Obama just sent out by the White House:


"I am deeply concerned by reports coming out of Honduras regarding the detention and expulsion of President Mel Zelaya. As the Organization of American States did on Friday, I call on all political and social actors in Honduras to respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic Charter. Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference."



As Kristin Bricker has been reporting the past few days here on Narco News, there have been mounting threats of military coup d'etat against democratically elected Honduran President Manuel Zelaya (photographed above with Obama at the April Summit of the Americas in Trinidad). Today is a national election day and the bone of contention is Zelaya's placement of a non-binding referendum that asks the Honduran people if they want another referendum in November to decide whether to reform the Constitution.

Truth is, Honduras has long been run by an oligarchy (rule by a select wealthy class) and the popular Zelaya has had to contend with a military brass, a judiciary and a legislature (and its corrupt political parties) that is openly hostile to his center-left government. While reasonable folks can disagree over whether the non-binding referendum should have gone to ballot today over the objections of the country's Supreme Court, the oligarchy lined up against that vote has just reportedly overplayed its hand by kidnapping the President:

Honduran army troops seized President Manuel Zelaya early today and sent the leftist president into exile in an apparent coup, reports from the Central American country said.

Troops moved through the Honduran capital, Tegucigalpa, and surrounded the presidential palace and other government buildings. The state television network was off the air as hundreds of angry Honduran citizens poured into the streets and shouted support for Zelaya. "The fact is, this is a coup d'etat and the president of Honduras has been kidnapped and beaten up," Honduras' ambassador to the Organization of American States, Carlos Sosa Coello, told CNN's Spanish-language network.

When similar events occurred in 2002 in Venezuela, the Bush White House blamed the kidnapped president for his own abduction and gloated, cheering the coup d'etat. (Over the following three days masses of Venezuelan citizens overpowered the coup, took back the public television station and broadcast to the people that their president had not resigned but had been abducted. Venezuelan President Chavez was brought back to power by a nonviolent civil resistance movement.)

What is happening in Honduras, though, has got to be the most boneheaded coup attempt in Latin American history: to kidnap a president on an election day, and without the support that Washington historically gave past military coups from Santiago to Caracas, is not likely to work out as planned for today's coup plotters. Presuming that Zelaya is still alive and not critically wounded, it's a good bet that he'll be back in a matter of days, if not hours, more popular than before.

(Note: I'm about to get on an airplane. Will be back in the newsroom this afternoon. Check with Narco News for updates over the course of the day.)
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