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Old 10-26-2009, 02:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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And waiting some more...

Fuck it, it's clear that j isn't here to discuss, just intellectually masturbate.

J, you're a liar and a cheat and you dodge anything that will remove you from your little bubble of belief. Ignorance at it's finest.

And luckily, nobody is listening to you. Byebye.
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Your like a whiny kid kerry...

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Calvina Fay is the Executive Director of Drug Free America Foundation and Save Our Society From Drugs (S.O.S.) From 1976-1985 it was known as Straight, Inc. and had a reputation for abusing kids as a drug rehabilitation program. Mel Sembler and his wife Betty founded Straight, Inc. In 1985 it changed its name to Straight Foundation, Inc. in order to protect its money and its principals from civil suits. In 1995 it was changed again to Drug Free America Foundation. DFAF is a national and international drug policy think tank and provider of services for drug free work places.



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Old 10-26-2009, 02:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry View Post
fyi et im intentionally not replying to you as u are not making a comment worthy of a reply.
Hold one...just one second...

Posting factual polls that prove your original claims of the polls to be false information, is not worth a reply.

One more time...

Posting factual polls that prove your original claims of the polls to be false information, is not worth a reply.

Wow.
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:46 PM   #24 (permalink)
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What is not sensational about what is happening? The history books only cover so many topics, you know. When countries do things like this it tends to change the course of humanity. I don't see what isn't rataional about looking at the big picture.

New Deal, anyone?
it is irrational to conclude that overhauling our country's healthcare system compromises our freedoms. on the contrary, our system as it stands today LITERALLY capitalizes on our weaknesses, draining many of us dry and leaving american families hopelessly in debt while insurance companies announce record profits in a down economy. look at how much emotional baggage you carry to immediately jump to paranoid into delusions when presented with the notion of fixing it, and ask yourself who is being rational. . .
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry View Post
fyi et im intentionally not replying to you as u are not making a comment worthy of a reply.

theres no clearer evidence of the lineup among liberals and far left democrats against the middle of america then the way they strongarm people and shout down the disagreement ALL THE WHILE NOT EVEN BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHY WHAT THEY ARE SO IN FAVOR OF WILL BE GOOD OTHER THAN SOME BULSHIT INACCURATE AND WRONG ARGUMENT ABOUT MORALITY AND FAIRNESS...IT WONT MAKE HEALTHCARE BETTER, CHEAPER OR ANYTHING ELSE - AND THEY KNOW IT, SO THEY DONT ARGUE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL, THEY ARGUE ABOUT THE ARGUMENT!
They do KIND OF have an argument. It's a basic one of helping sick and poor people.
 
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry View Post
its the same exact thing its like bashing our heads against a wall...

lol.

they are the ones who are ramming the proposal that people dont want down our throats.


but then if we try to talk about it, see how angry and upset they get? intead of trying to defend the damn thing they are supporting its just about bashing skulls and trying to strongarm people into accepting something they think is utterly retarded...


why are they like that? damn its frustrating.
You are just one person, your fringe ideals are that of an individual and displacing them onto society as a whole is a red-flag signaling delusion...

You are not the people, us, we or any of those other descriptors that you have been using to try to keep your perspective and lies alive as "the majority opinion"...
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:50 PM   #27 (permalink)
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et what are u on about man? polls show different things everyday


poll and factual dont belong in the same sentence
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ps im enjoying all the comments even the rude ones so keep em comming. its not like any of us control the government so its not like any of us can do much but bitch or agree with what its doing.
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"divided government is by far the best kind of government in america.

so since I and everyone else still gets whet when we see the dear chairman,

I propose- a republican congress- the only path to sanity without waiting 8 years."- a smart person
 
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry View Post
et what are u on about man? polls show different things everyday


poll and factual dont belong in the same sentence
So what the fuck are you basing your opinion on?
 
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:02 PM   #30 (permalink)
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So what the fuck are you basing your opinion on?
One more time j. Come on. Please show us what you base your 'reality' on.
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I think that most people are against it, you can think they are mostly for it if you want, i think most americans who are capitalists are against a communist or socialist plan ... maybe not, but thats what i think, they just fought a cold war i mean damn.

polls can be so easily influenced that i dont buy them usually
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:04 PM   #32 (permalink)
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If querry doesn't want a public option it doesn't have to enroll and can keep whatever firm they choose. But the arrogance and ignorance of GOPervert mouthfarters to think they can dictate what the rest of the country wants is pure Nazism. Just so the $24 million salaries stay in place querry doesn't care about 40,000 Americans dying unnecessarily. Don't want it don't buy it but keep your degenerate mits off the rest of the country's option dirtbag. Like I said, these same tax whiners shelter their responsibility in Cayman Island laundrymats. Then threaten the citizens who pay their share. Weak. Finally, the end of the GOP selfish spoiled Nazi offspring is near. Give em enough rope and they hang themselves real pretty.



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"These corporate executives tended to use the same language as the paid assassins on the Geraldo show, 'I feel fine about this because I'm just doing what the market requires,' " Derber explains. "I develop an analogy between paid assassins on the street and those in the suites. In the most general sense, these corporate executives are paid hitmen who use very much the same language and rationalization. I argue that corporations are exemplifying a form of anti-social behavior which is undermining a great deal of the social fabric and civilized values that we would hope to sustain."
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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry View Post
EXPLAIN WHY WHAT THEY ARE SO IN FAVOR OF WILL BE GOOD
people who can't access care now will be able to

wasteful spending in the industry will be reconsidered and hopefully righted

insurance companies will no longer monopolize entire markets

all leading up to the possibility that people will go to the doctor and things will be caught sooner when they can be treated cheaper and more easily, creating a healthier american workforce who can continue to compete and innovate in a growing world economy.

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OTHER THAN SOME BULSHIT INACCURATE AND WRONG ARGUMENT ABOUT MORALITY AND FAIRNESS...
right

Originally Posted by John F. Kerry View Post
IT WONT MAKE HEALTHCARE BETTER, CHEAPER OR ANYTHING ELSE - AND THEY KNOW IT, SO THEY DONT ARGUE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL, THEY ARGUE ABOUT THE ARGUMENT!
oh you mean exactly what you're doing. . . ? gtfo

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communist or socialist plan
forgive me, you also argue BULLSHIT
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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry View Post
I think that most people are against it, you can think they are mostly for it if you want, i think most americans who are capitalists are against a communist or socialist plan ... maybe not, but thats what i think, they just fought a cold war i mean damn.

polls can be so easily influenced that i dont buy them usually
So you're basing it off your general opinion rather than the ACTUAL POLLS. It's SIX DAYS old. You really think it's shifted the entire other direction? Great. Show me.

Tell you what, moron. Show just one single solitary poll that shows the majority of the people do not want it. Just one. Has to be newer than October 20th. Come on j, stand up for your ideals and find one shred of evidence to show us that what you ever say has any root in actual reality. Otherwise, I move to the idea that you should be ignored by most everyone on the board, as you're just using A&P for an opinion sounding board with absolutely no desire to want to debate the actual facts.
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here ya go

o sorry i forgot the date but otherwise its good
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the unintended irony is insidious and palpable
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:21 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Aight, you're going on ignore. You obviously have no desire to want to talk about things, you just want to spout your Fox News based bullshit and ignore when someone respectfully shows you that your claims are erroneous. You just ignore people when they prove you wrong but I persisted this time and you've shown why you ignore people...because you're lying through your teeth. But you know you're lying and you know we are right, so I take solace in that fact.

I don't think we can ban someone for being a proven liar, but we can ignore. I suggest everyone else does the same and rid of A&P permanently of this vermin.
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Now querry, how you going to rip off the tax payers with your dick armey of teabog dittie horshit if you can't even post a pic? Pitifuckingfools!

 
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oh for christ sake do u have no sense of humor at all ?

ill find a poll for you sir because you seem to think its so fundamental to your point that one poll you found shows a majority when its worded this cerntain way to manipulate people to say yes instead of no to any given poll question.


and there is such broad support for it that there WERENT protests all summer and during town halls about it AND the dems didnt have to try another back door slippery technique to trick their way into getting it done-

but its so popular so they didnt have to do those things i know.
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"your either with us or your against us" ego tripping channeling george bush
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