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Old 01-29-2004, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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vedaponics, acid rain, and the bagseed blues

Green Woodland Park has a road that goes thru a corner of it on its meandering way out of baobaobados and on to the rolling hills of the farmlands. on a recent morning, all along the side of the road thru the park there were plastic garbage bags, i mean lots of them. they were all full, and it looked like someone had driven a truck down the road while somebody in the bed pitched these full garbage bags overboard one after another. many of the bags were torn open, and potting soil was spilling out.
whoever it was had to get rid of all this potting soil i guess becuz it was all full of salts and couldnt be used again. i think that was an evil thing to do, and obviously another result of the evil drug war.
sometimes i find old pots and soil and rooty hunks of rockwool dumped in the woods. it makes me unhappy, becuz of the wrongness of doing this, and the wrongness of the circumstances that lead people to feel they have to do these things, or ought to de these things.
so this is why i feel vedaponics is a more enviromentally friendly way to gro. i dont have contaminated waste that i have to get rid of, just water with a little leftover nutrient value that i pour out in the garden, and the rinse water from washing my reusable gro medium gets cleaned up by a kind of wild reedy grass that grows in the bogs and salty marshy areas (also grows well in big supertufa pots)

we have a rain water collection system, and i never worried about the pH before, but recent tests sho the rain comes in around 6.1 or 6.2 i've read that the optimal range is between 5.3 and 5.8, so thr rain isnt that far off. do you think its worth bothering about? is there an easy amendment or buffer i can use to get to the optimal range, or do you think 6.1 -.2 is close enough? i read that anywhere between 4 and 7 is fine, but i also read some complicated thing full of science and ions that was hard to understand and left me all

right now i got the bagseed blues: some kind of unknown Sativa/indica strain that grew up nice and big, and after cuttings were taken, and the light was switched to 12/12 a few of the plants proved to be herms. well, they were free seeds, and there were only a few plants so it was no big deal to go on scissor patrol and snip!snip! whenever any offensive male sex organs were found. after flowering and curing they proved to be a very passable mid grade smoke, so who's complaining?
but those clones now, i planned to just bud them as soon as their roots started showing, but after going into the vedaponic9000(i didnt invent it, but i like to call it that) under the HID i kept thinking, 'ill just gro em a little bigger,' but i didnt really give them much care or attention so a couple bad things happened: first, there was an algae problem that clogged the drippers and several of the plants got dried up and were falling over half dead when i finally got around to checkin em, then when they had recovered, i proceeded to just burn the crap out of em by carefully measuring 1oz of nutrent per gallon of water, which should have been .5oz per gallon. whoops! what can i say? a total brain-fade moment.
now they are recovering from that, and i keep thinking i just wanna flower em and be done with it so we can start over with good seed stock. i dont wanna just dump em after all this time, and i dont wanna flower em when their all feeling sickly, i want em to be happy and healthy. but they're just bagseed clones so i dont want to put a lot of effort into em becuz i kno theyll just go herm. well thats the bagseed blues for ya. youre damned if ya do and damned if ya dont, and ya get what ya pay for.
and thats the end of my report.
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Old 01-29-2004, 06:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you have a big property you can 'feed' the discarded root balls to a nearby bush. I knew someone who would toss 'em to his raspberry bush, and it would happily gobble upthe leftover ferts.

I have a big property now, I thik I have rasperries too So I can do this. Before I'd usually do a mission to a school or restaurant dumpster.
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Old 01-30-2004, 04:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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We compost everything that comes out of the garden and within the year it goes back into the garden again.

I've seen similar things though (piles of dirt not people chucking it out - if I had seen the latter I would have got chatting ) and occasionally it does concern me, particularly the bags themselves. In all honesty though if you need a flat bed to get rid of your dirt then you're probably running a commercial grow and if you're running a comm crop in dirt you're either very stupid or very dedicated. I've seen quite a few commercial grows and almost without exception NFT is flavour of the warehouse.

I can't say I've never dumped a root ball or two though. I remember with fondeness the late night missions when I lived in an apartment in order to find somewhere to ditch them. Same with trim leaves, at university after every couple of harvests we would have bin bags full of unresinated fan leaves and used to take great delight in taking bags of them out late at night to area away from our grow and just scattering them everywhere. Parked cars, pavements, phone boxs, driveways, all dotted with autumnally coloured cannabis leaves!!!

Cha, when everyday we burn enough enough noxious chemicals to make Shaun Ryder high I think there are more severe environmental plights, people are lazy, I've come to accept that.

Incidentally, that whole story reminded me exactly why I dumped my table and went back to 'nature'.

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Old 01-30-2004, 07:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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lol thats a quality idea, im gonna start saving my leaves and dump the things everywhere...

where do you think would be good to start ?
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People used to dump bags of leaf at my HS every year. I've been wanting to countinue the tradition, but I usually chicken out and throw them in a dumpster.
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