Gotta quit, DON'T WANT TO - Page 3

gweetar · 04-12-2008, 02:49 PM

Yes, spicoli, I understand. Trsut me. I am sorry if I get so blunt, sometimes.

And, I agree that medications can help, definitely. Spicoli - my father had severe social anxiety disorder (no one knew what he had at the time) and hid in his room all of his life.

I have done a lot of hiding/avoiding, myself. Anyway, I understand much of what you say.

And, medications can give you strength when you don't have it, while you are working on your head, so to speak. I guess I was just trying to tell you that after 30 years of getting worse, I have been able to help myself to get better, after finally understanding and realizing what the f*ck was going on. And, identifying my "triggers" and changing my mental habits. Seriously. Meaning, a lot can be done w/out meds.

But, I know that sometimes we just need the help, it can be so bad. Sometimes, if you're in pain, you just need it to stop for a while, whatever works.

You really could buy a couple of ounces of mids or shwag, save a lot of money and your lungs, and self-medicate by making yummy cookies or brownies, and the hubby would never know. You know? Bake when he's not around, have your brownies around when you need; hell, eat them right in front of him. And, you'll slowly be getting stoned and he doesn't even know it. And, the stone lasts FOREVER.....

spicoli · 04-12-2008, 03:18 PM

Word, Gweetar. I love the edibles...I'm gonna be an 'ed-head- instead of a 'pot-head.' hahahahaha. I like that. Ed-head.
But on a more serious note, I do look forward to the days when I will not need the Paxil, Xanax, etc.
Your responses did not offend, in any way. I appreciate all of the advice. Especially because you have experienced the anxiety, and understand it. It gives me hope that I will also be able to cope drug free someday, hopefully soon.

Mafoo · 04-12-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spicoli

Boy do I ever need a chat with someone who will listen, but more importanly, someone who will UNDERSTAND.
And I have been seriously considering just converting what I smoke into edibles, yes. Just haven't had the balls to cook pot that costs me $300 an ounce, ya know?

ask your dealer if hes got any stress or shake hell sell you on the cheap...

the quality isnt as important when cooking ive noticed, so you dont have to use your dank expensive nugs

highanddry · 04-12-2008, 09:09 PM

What's wrong with rehab?

spicoli · 04-12-2008, 09:21 PM

Who said anything about needing rehab?

highanddry · 04-12-2008, 09:24 PM

I did. Get it.

spicoli · 04-12-2008, 09:29 PM

Rehab for anxiety meds? Or, better yet, pot?
Wtf r u talking about?

highanddry · 04-13-2008, 01:11 PM

There are a lot of marijuana addicts, and rehab works for them..Your depression and anxiety are "fixed" in the short run, exacerbated over time. If you arn't even aware of a medical model than I guess thats on you. Why don't you get acupuncture or something.

spicoli · 04-13-2008, 01:18 PM

I'm sure there are, and I just may be one of them. But I'm quitting smoking after today, due to a lung problem. Not happy about quitting, but it's just the right thing to do. I take a different approach to addiction than most people.
If something has become a problem for me, I just stop, no matter what the substance. For me, addiction is ALL in the head. I had a little situation with Vicodin for a long while, and when I realized what I was doing, I stopped. Cold turkey. Same with drinking. Same with cigs. Now it's on to quitting pot. I wonder what's next.
Now, crack,heroin, etc...those are different I guess cause I've never done them, so I don't know how they'd affect me, and I don't wanna find out.

highanddry · 04-13-2008, 02:05 PM

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Vicodin for a long while, and when I realized what I was doing, I stopped.

I'm not trying to play doctor, but an addiction specialist might say that these are attributes of the same addiction. The need to get high, even though its through weed sometimes, vicodin sometimes and alcohol is all manifestations of the same addiciton... Believe me, I am the same way. If its so easy to quit and its all in your head, quit! No problems. Makes me wonder what this thread is for in that case though. Good luck

spicoli · 04-13-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highanddry

I'm not trying to play doctor, but an addiction specialist might say that these are attributes of the same addiction. The need to get high, even though its through weed sometimes, vicodin sometimes and alcohol is all manifestations of the same addiciton... Believe me, I am the same way. If its so easy to quit and its all in your head, quit! No problems. Makes me wonder what this thread is for in that case though. Good luck

Well, the point of this thread is and was: I gotta quit and I don't want to. I enjoy smoking pot. The ceremony of it. I enjoy the feeling, the smell, the taste, the looks of it...I have since picked tomorrow (Monday, April 14) to quit. I made the decision to do it, and tomorrow's the day. This thread helped me to do that. And, hopefully, it will help someone else, too. I recognize that I have an 'addictive personality.' However, I do have the power to overcome any of the things I have done. The challenge I have ahead of me is one that I embrace. I know I can do this.

spicoli · 04-13-2008, 09:20 PM

Okay, so I am about to go smoke the last of the weed that I have.
I am also going to eat the candy bar that I have...Gonna be high for the last time tonight. BTW: I do not have intentions of having edibles...at least for 3 or 4 months. I'm not sure I'll ever have them again.

Center · 04-14-2008, 12:18 AM

Props.

Hey, you know something. I want you to try this...

Go to some local place that is pretty populated (book store, grocery store, etc.) . Then I want you to look around at everyone you see then yell some random-stupid-whateverthefuckyouwa nt remark. Let everyone stare at you. Just smile to yourself and realise that it doesn't matter that these people are looking at you! You are yourself. You are fine as you are, and you are here to enjoy your life. Don't be afraid. Make this a fun experiment (mabye go to a non-local one, lol). Also, when your standing in line somewere or something start a conversation with at least 1 stranger. Keep doing this and doing this over and over, I have a STRONG feeling within no time your social anxiety will dramatically decrease. Have fun and check back in with this thread about how it does.

spicoli · 04-14-2008, 12:52 AM

Thanks for the support, Center.
Ya know, it's funny. I am a social person. It's weird. I talk to strangers all the time. I've NEVER had a prob speaking my mind, apparenly from birth.
I only went through that really bad I'm scared to leave the house thing for about 2-3 months last year. Maybe if I go off the paxil, I'll get those feelings again? I hope not. It seemed like there was a 'build-up' to that bad point.
The other way I suffered was with compulsive worry over my kids getting hurt, so I never took them many places. I do take them places now, and I don't panic like I used to. It's great for them, and me.
I'm just curious how my temper and general mood will be this next week...I guess we'll see the general mood later today...

spicoli · 04-15-2008, 12:16 PM

I made it (remarkably) through my first 24 hours smoke-free. It was an extremely difficult day, anxiety-wise, but I did it.
(my middle boy is really sick, doctors, blood tests, xrays...)
I feel really strong, but I have been craving bong tokes like crazy!!

Center · 04-15-2008, 02:55 PM

Good job. Those first three days are the most difficult. If it helps, I just got started a nice long break myself. Im about 1 week in...

Stay persistent; it seperates the winners from losers.

spicoli · 04-15-2008, 03:29 PM

I made sure to smoke everything that I had in the week leading up to my quit date.
That was a good idea; there isn't anything here to tempt me with.
But, it would be so easy to pick up the phone and get a delivery...ahhh. I really want to smoke right now, but it will only make me feel guilty. No, that's not true. It will also make me feel HIGH. Oh well...

Smoke Break · 04-15-2008, 03:49 PM

Once you get a week or two into it, it gets real easy. I'm cleanin up for a hair test and have been a month clean. I kept procrastinating the start of quitting with "Oh just on more toke", or "Meh, I'll stop tomorrow." After you get through the first week, it becomes really easy. I can even chill with my friends who are smoking pot in the same room and I don't even want to hit it.

spicoli · 04-15-2008, 04:03 PM

I could NOT sit next to someone who was tokin up. That would be it for me.
That's why my friends who smoke, aren't smokin around me for a while!
But hey, more power to you, man! That is what's called will power, for those who don't know.

jag8 · 04-16-2008, 10:17 AM

i plan on stopping for awile. im scared ill just be replacing it with large amounts of alcohol though.

oh well. more beer!

04-12-2008, 03:18 PM	#42 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	Word, Gweetar. I love the edibles...I'm gonna be an 'ed-head- instead of a 'pot-head.' hahahahaha. I like that. Ed-head. But on a more serious note, I do look forward to the days when I will not need the Paxil, Xanax, etc. Your responses did not offend, in any way. I appreciate all of the advice. Especially because you have experienced the anxiety, and understand it. It gives me hope that I will also be able to cope drug free someday, hopefully soon. __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-12-2008, 09:21 PM	#45 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	Who said anything about needing rehab? __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-12-2008, 09:29 PM	#47 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	Rehab for anxiety meds? Or, better yet, pot? Wtf r u talking about? __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-13-2008, 01:18 PM	#49 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	I'm sure there are, and I just may be one of them. But I'm quitting smoking after today, due to a lung problem. Not happy about quitting, but it's just the right thing to do. I take a different approach to addiction than most people. If something has become a problem for me, I just stop, no matter what the substance. For me, addiction is ALL in the head. I had a little situation with Vicodin for a long while, and when I realized what I was doing, I stopped. Cold turkey. Same with drinking. Same with cigs. Now it's on to quitting pot. I wonder what's next. Now, crack,heroin, etc...those are different I guess cause I've never done them, so I don't know how they'd affect me, and I don't wanna find out. __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-13-2008, 09:20 PM	#52 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	Okay, so I am about to go smoke the last of the weed that I have. I am also going to eat the candy bar that I have...Gonna be high for the last time tonight. BTW: I do not have intentions of having edibles...at least for 3 or 4 months. I'm not sure I'll ever have them again. __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-12-2008, 02:49 PM	#41 (permalink)
gweetar YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 281 Thanks: 49 Thanked 42 Times in 34 Posts	Yes, spicoli, I understand. Trsut me. I am sorry if I get so blunt, sometimes. And, I agree that medications can help, definitely. Spicoli - my father had severe social anxiety disorder (no one knew what he had at the time) and hid in his room all of his life. I have done a lot of hiding/avoiding, myself. Anyway, I understand much of what you say. And, medications can give you strength when you don't have it, while you are working on your head, so to speak. I guess I was just trying to tell you that after 30 years of getting worse, I have been able to help myself to get better, after finally understanding and realizing what the f*ck was going on. And, identifying my "triggers" and changing my mental habits. Seriously. Meaning, a lot can be done w/out meds. But, I know that sometimes we just need the help, it can be so bad. Sometimes, if you're in pain, you just need it to stop for a while, whatever works. You really could buy a couple of ounces of mids or shwag, save a lot of money and your lungs, and self-medicate by making yummy cookies or brownies, and the hubby would never know. You know? Bake when he's not around, have your brownies around when you need; hell, eat them right in front of him. And, you'll slowly be getting stoned and he doesn't even know it. And, the stone lasts FOREVER.....

04-12-2008, 09:09 PM	#44 (permalink)
highanddry YaHookan Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 613 Thanks: 44 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts	What's wrong with rehab?

04-12-2008, 09:24 PM	#46 (permalink)
highanddry YaHookan Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 613 Thanks: 44 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts	I did. Get it.

04-13-2008, 01:11 PM	#48 (permalink)
highanddry YaHookan Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 613 Thanks: 44 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts	There are a lot of marijuana addicts, and rehab works for them..Your depression and anxiety are "fixed" in the short run, exacerbated over time. If you arn't even aware of a medical model than I guess thats on you. Why don't you get acupuncture or something.

04-14-2008, 12:18 AM	#53 (permalink)
Center YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: on my way up the ladder of greatness Posts: 551 Thanks: 7 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Props. Hey, you know something. I want you to try this... Go to some local place that is pretty populated (book store, grocery store, etc.) . Then I want you to look around at everyone you see then yell some random-stupid-whateverthefuckyouwa nt remark. Let everyone stare at you. Just smile to yourself and realise that it doesn't matter that these people are looking at you! You are yourself. You are fine as you are, and you are here to enjoy your life. Don't be afraid. Make this a fun experiment (mabye go to a non-local one, lol). Also, when your standing in line somewere or something start a conversation with at least 1 stranger. Keep doing this and doing this over and over, I have a STRONG feeling within no time your social anxiety will dramatically decrease. Have fun and check back in with this thread about how it does.

04-14-2008, 12:52 AM	#54 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	Thanks for the support, Center. Ya know, it's funny. I am a social person. It's weird. I talk to strangers all the time. I've NEVER had a prob speaking my mind, apparenly from birth. I only went through that really bad I'm scared to leave the house thing for about 2-3 months last year. Maybe if I go off the paxil, I'll get those feelings again? I hope not. It seemed like there was a 'build-up' to that bad point. The other way I suffered was with compulsive worry over my kids getting hurt, so I never took them many places. I do take them places now, and I don't panic like I used to. It's great for them, and me. I'm just curious how my temper and general mood will be this next week...I guess we'll see the general mood later today... __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-15-2008, 12:16 PM	#55 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	I made it (remarkably) through my first 24 hours smoke-free. It was an extremely difficult day, anxiety-wise, but I did it. (my middle boy is really sick, doctors, blood tests, xrays...) I feel really strong, but I have been craving bong tokes like crazy!! __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-15-2008, 02:55 PM	#56 (permalink)
Center YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: on my way up the ladder of greatness Posts: 551 Thanks: 7 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Good job. Those first three days are the most difficult. If it helps, I just got started a nice long break myself. Im about 1 week in... Stay persistent; it seperates the winners from losers.

04-15-2008, 03:29 PM	#57 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	I made sure to smoke everything that I had in the week leading up to my quit date. That was a good idea; there isn't anything here to tempt me with. But, it would be so easy to pick up the phone and get a delivery...ahhh. I really want to smoke right now, but it will only make me feel guilty. No, that's not true. It will also make me feel HIGH. Oh well... __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-15-2008, 03:49 PM	#58 (permalink)
Smoke Break -Custom User Title- Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 662 Thanks: 89 Thanked 33 Times in 14 Posts	Once you get a week or two into it, it gets real easy. I'm cleanin up for a hair test and have been a month clean. I kept procrastinating the start of quitting with "Oh just on more toke", or "Meh, I'll stop tomorrow." After you get through the first week, it becomes really easy. I can even chill with my friends who are smoking pot in the same room and I don't even want to hit it. __________________ Think for yourself, question authority.

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04-15-2008, 04:03 PM	#59 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	I could NOT sit next to someone who was tokin up. That would be it for me. That's why my friends who smoke, aren't smokin around me for a while! But hey, more power to you, man! That is what's called will power, for those who don't know. __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-16-2008, 10:17 AM	#60 (permalink)
jag8 nug get Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,261 Thanks: 19 Thanked 38 Times in 27 Posts	i plan on stopping for awile. im scared ill just be replacing it with large amounts of alcohol though. oh well. more beer!