Gotta quit, DON'T WANT TO

spicoli · 04-06-2008, 11:27 AM

I have a serious problem, folks. I am a very heavy smoker of marijuana. I smoke a 1/2 oz. a week of high grade Kush.
I have asthma, which in the past few months has become very bad.
I keep getting bronchitis, and sinus infections, which is making my life miserable.
I am having the most incredibly hard time just even taking a break to let my lungs heal. Had to go see a pulminologist a few months back, and he told me I need to quit.
I have really bad anxiety, and depression issues that marijuana definately help me with. I am afraid of what mental state I will be in when I quit. I do have some xanax to help, but it's just not the same. I'm already on Paxil, which also helps, but does not work completley on its own.
Not to mention, my husband is at his wit's end with me. He just cannot comprehend why I just don't stop. (he is not now, nor has he ever been a pot smoker). He is afraid I am killing myself, and ruining our lives.
WTF is wrong with me? I quit smoking cigs cold turkey, and when drinking became a prob., I quit that, too. I am not a weak person, at least I don't think. I lost over 100 lbs on my own by working out and eating better...I've been able to do anything I put my mind to so far.
Thoughts?

kamikazi89 · 04-06-2008, 11:29 AM

you are on a lot of drugs..quitting weed due to breathing issues is valid..solution=bake )

omerta · 04-06-2008, 11:40 AM

I use Marijuana TO TREAT MY ASTHMA!

I Have Severe Asthma, And Marijuana Is The Best Thing I Have Found To Relieve My Symptoms.

Marijuana has BENIFITS for asthma sufferers.

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A bronchodilator is a substance that dilates the bronchi and bronchioles, increasing airflow

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Back in the mid-1970s US professor Donald P Taskin found that "recent studies demonstrated significant, acute bronchodilation in healthy young men after they smoked marijuana".

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THE CONCLUSION: MARIJUANA SMOKING IS SAFE FOR LUNGS.

I can’t figure how this news item got so screwed up. It sounds like “Reefer Madness” from Anslinger or the Hearst newspapers.

With my experience with more than 4,000 patients including many who have asthma, I was surprised when patients with asthma came in requesting marijuana permits.

This required considerable thought and consideration because I had heard for years that marijuana caused irritation of lung passages and coughing. It was time for some education for me by my patients.

Cannibinoids, the medicine in marijuana, cause smooth muscle relaxation and smooth muscles are the inside lining of the airways; therefore, marijuana should help asthma patients by enlarging the bore. It does.

When I suffer from asthma, a small hit of weed will help me cough.. and will dialate (open) my passages a bit. After a few minutes I can breath prefectly.

I smoke cigs and weed, I have asthma and do not use an inhaler.

Go figure.

Please research more about this imortant topic.

Who would have thought pot is a good treatment for asthma? lol!

O

generic_hippie · 04-06-2008, 11:43 AM

spicoli my friend, 2nd thread about life trauma, do you need a chat with somebody that can listen?

medical card - self-supply - growing - cooking cookies

four stage solution to your cannabis use problems

spicoli · 04-06-2008, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by generic_hippie

spicoli my friend, 2nd thread about life trauma, do you need a chat with somebody that can listen?

medical card - self-supply - growing - cooking cookies

four stage solution to your cannabis use problems

Boy do I ever need a chat with someone who will listen, but more importanly, someone who will UNDERSTAND.
And I have been seriously considering just converting what I smoke into edibles, yes. Just haven't had the balls to cook pot that costs me $300 an ounce, ya know?

spicoli · 04-06-2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omerta

I use Marijuana TO TREAT MY ASTHMA!

I Have Severe Asthma, And Marijuana Is The Best Thing I Have Found To Relieve My Symptoms.

Marijuana has BENIFITS for asthma sufferers.

When I suffer from asthma, a small hit of weed will help me cough.. and will dialate (open) my passages a bit. After a few minutes I can breath prefectly.

I smoke cigs and weed, I have asthma and do not use an inhaler.

Go figure.

Please research more about this imortant topic.

Who would have thought pot is a good treatment for asthma? lol!

O

I totally have done the research, man.
The doc that gave me my last breathing treatment said to just put ice in the bong, and use less.
I smoke pot like most cig smokers do. All day long, every day. That is not good for lungs that are diseased, this much I know, because I am living it. Pot is usefull to asthma sufferers during an attack, this is proven. But everyday all day use, is not helpful. (for asthma) It is helpfull in making me feel happy and a lot more easy going.
My violent coughing all night long and waking up my family is certainly taking its toll.

generic_hippie · 04-06-2008, 12:42 PM

have you considered/do you have the resources to acquire a vaporiser?

it will take a bit of adjusting in your psycholigical routine of consumption, (the routine of packing the bong/rolling the joint or blunt) can be as calming as the actual herb in some cases

sending good vibes to you

№1 · 04-06-2008, 12:50 PM

How about just slowing down?

You can only get so high during the day, take a toke or two of your high grade pot and fuckin' relax, let the buzz run its course. Soon you'll find you need less and less of the weed to get a decent high going. Its called tolerance, slow down, take it easy...

bongsmilie

kamikazi89 · 04-06-2008, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omerta

I use Marijuana TO TREAT MY ASTHMA!

I Have Severe Asthma, And Marijuana Is The Best Thing I Have Found To Relieve My Symptoms.

Marijuana has BENIFITS for asthma sufferers.

When I suffer from asthma, a small hit of weed will help me cough.. and will dialate (open) my passages a bit. After a few minutes I can breath prefectly.

I smoke cigs and weed, I have asthma and do not use an inhaler.

Go figure.

Please research more about this imortant topic.

Who would have thought pot is a good treatment for asthma? lol!

O

quit the cigs: not good for the lungs .

spicoli · 04-06-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by generic_hippie

have you considered/do you have the resources to acquire a vaporiser?

it will take a bit of adjusting in your psycholigical routine of consumption, (the routine of packing the bong/rolling the joint or blunt) can be as calming as the actual herb in some cases

sending good vibes to you

Yes, actually, I have considered a vape. But unfortunetely, it never went beyond asking questions in the smoke shop.
I hear in addition to the benefits of removing the toxins in the smoke, you don't have to smoke as much, or as often?
I think what stopped me was the price, of all things.
But I guess my health and my lungs are worth the price of a vape if I insist on smoking still.
I only smoked once today, and it was in hiding...I feel like a damn teenager again...My hubs would kick my butt if he knew. I feel like shit for hiding anything from him.

Rubix · 04-06-2008, 05:49 PM

just bite the bullet and vape

InAJar · 04-06-2008, 05:56 PM

Spicoli:
I had the same problem. I was frying my lungs and I could feel my bronchial tubes throbbing. I don't smoke cigarettes, but I still had tarry ol' lungs. I kept trying to quit because it hurt to smoke, but I didn't want to.

So, I got a Volcano vaporizer and I never looked back. I do not work for the Volcano company. I have heard people bitch about how they hate vaporizers. But I LOVE mine. I don't even WANT to smoke again.

WHen you light bud up with a lighter, the heat can get up to 900C. That heat actually destroys a good portion of the THC. It also combusts the vegetable matter releasing over a hundred nasty chemicals to tar up your lungs. But when you put the weed in a volcano, it is impossible to burn the weed but it gets hot enough (around 250C or something) to vaporize ONLY two chemicals: THC and the oil that gives it flavor. This cloud fills up in this oven bag. It,s great. Much more efficient than smoking. Plus, the high is better. You don't get the tiredness that you get from smoke inhalation. I can toke and then go running.

Vaporization as a smokeless cannabis delivery syst...[Clin Pharmacol Ther. 2007] - PubMed Result
Evaluation of a vaporizing device (Volcano) for th...[J Pharm Sci. 2006] - PubMed Result

spicoli · 04-06-2008, 06:27 PM

alright already.
I'll get the vape. But, it will be really hard to convince my husband...He is hellbent on me just quitting.
I'm gonna have to use my feminine powers of persuasion...by powers of persuasion I mean a really good bj. hahahahahahahaha

Edit: My next post on this thread will be after my 1st vape session.

InAJar · 04-06-2008, 06:45 PM

go ahead and let your husband quit. more for you.

Shaggy_420 · 04-06-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spicoli

I totally have done the research, man.
The doc that gave me my last breathing treatment said to just put ice in the bong, and use less.
I smoke pot like most cig smokers do. All day long, every day. That is not good for lungs that are diseased, this much I know, because I am living it. Pot is usefull to asthma sufferers during an attack, this is proven. But everyday all day use, is not helpful. (for asthma) It is helpfull in making me feel happy and a lot more easy going.
My violent coughing all night long and waking up my family is certainly taking its toll.

dont smoke out of a bong

bongs are whats probably killin you
'cus your getting pretty much full lungs of regular air...and then having to suck in a shitload of smoke as well
just get a vaporizer or even just a simple bubbler

and for the not wanting to bake with $300 worth of weed,
just buy an oz of shitty weed and bake with it
it'll save you around $250

spicoli · 04-06-2008, 07:01 PM

I lied. I haven't vaped yet.
But I'm posting anyway.

But my man does not smoke. Has only tried it once, when he was a kid, did not like it, and will never try it again.

spicoli · 04-06-2008, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy_420

dont smoke out of a bong

bongs are whats probably killin you
'cus your getting pretty much full lungs of regular air...and then having to suck in a shitload of smoke as well
just get a vaporizer or even just a simple bubbler

and for the not wanting to bake with $300 worth of weed,
just buy an oz of shitty weed and bake with it
it'll save you around $250

Yeah. A friend just hooked up an ounce of GDP for $320. Since that is almost half price of what I usually pay, I might have to use that. Crazy, I know. I just love the TASTE of pot smoke, ya know?
But edibles last so damn long and the high is bangin.bongsmilie

gweetar · 04-09-2008, 05:18 PM

spicoli - Im a very blunt person and usually just say it as it is. So, sorry about this - have the damn will power and slowdown! Smoke Less! Sorry, but don't look for every excuse to keep getting stoned everyday. Using/abusing anything like that everyday is not good for you. Anything, especially something you're passing through your lungs everyday.

Do the baking thing, sure. I'm with Shaggy 420. I'm telling you, even with just shwag you can get stoned beyond belief. I've been so stoned off of just shwag by baking cookies, I truly didn't think it was possible. Seriously. I know you're used to the good stuff (send me some!), but maybe you can smoke some chronic, cook with some mids or shwag, spend a little less...

I'm like you - I put my mind to something -exercise, self-discipline, etc. and I do it!

I think pot has so many damn great benefits and experiences from using it that alcohol and cigs can't even touch. You've obviously made it a habit, and it's habit that does great things for your mind. I don't know - maybe that's part of the reason you have so a hard time quitting?

but, look at what else i

04-06-2008, 11:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	Gotta quit, DON'T WANT TO I have a serious problem, folks. I am a very heavy smoker of marijuana. I smoke a 1/2 oz. a week of high grade Kush. I have asthma, which in the past few months has become very bad. I keep getting bronchitis, and sinus infections, which is making my life miserable. I am having the most incredibly hard time just even taking a break to let my lungs heal. Had to go see a pulminologist a few months back, and he told me I need to quit. I have really bad anxiety, and depression issues that marijuana definately help me with. I am afraid of what mental state I will be in when I quit. I do have some xanax to help, but it's just not the same. I'm already on Paxil, which also helps, but does not work completley on its own. Not to mention, my husband is at his wit's end with me. He just cannot comprehend why I just don't stop. (he is not now, nor has he ever been a pot smoker). He is afraid I am killing myself, and ruining our lives. WTF is wrong with me? I quit smoking cigs cold turkey, and when drinking became a prob., I quit that, too. I am not a weak person, at least I don't think. I lost over 100 lbs on my own by working out and eating better...I've been able to do anything I put my mind to so far. Thoughts? __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

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generic_hippie question authority Join Date: May 2003 Location: 20 km's from Nimbin, Australia Posts: 4,180 Thanks: 61 Thanked 190 Times in 139 Posts	spicoli my friend, 2nd thread about life trauma, do you need a chat with somebody that can listen? medical card - self-supply - growing - cooking cookies four stage solution to your cannabis use problems __________________ All we are saying is give POT to everybody all the time...

04-06-2008, 12:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
generic_hippie question authority Join Date: May 2003 Location: 20 km's from Nimbin, Australia Posts: 4,180 Thanks: 61 Thanked 190 Times in 139 Posts	have you considered/do you have the resources to acquire a vaporiser? it will take a bit of adjusting in your psycholigical routine of consumption, (the routine of packing the bong/rolling the joint or blunt) can be as calming as the actual herb in some cases sending good vibes to you __________________ All we are saying is give POT to everybody all the time...

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№1 Knock knock... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: out there Posts: 8,882 Thanks: 28 Thanked 95 Times in 72 Posts	How about just slowing down? You can only get so high during the day, take a toke or two of your high grade pot and fuckin' relax, let the buzz run its course. Soon you'll find you need less and less of the weed to get a decent high going. Its called tolerance, slow down, take it easy... bongsmilie __________________ "You can't play in the middle of the road if you've never seen the far curb..." Doug Stanhope --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Purgatory

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04-06-2008, 05:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
InAJar Ohm Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 343 Thanks: 26 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	Spicoli: I had the same problem. I was frying my lungs and I could feel my bronchial tubes throbbing. I don't smoke cigarettes, but I still had tarry ol' lungs. I kept trying to quit because it hurt to smoke, but I didn't want to. So, I got a Volcano vaporizer and I never looked back. I do not work for the Volcano company. I have heard people bitch about how they hate vaporizers. But I LOVE mine. I don't even WANT to smoke again. WHen you light bud up with a lighter, the heat can get up to 900C. That heat actually destroys a good portion of the THC. It also combusts the vegetable matter releasing over a hundred nasty chemicals to tar up your lungs. But when you put the weed in a volcano, it is impossible to burn the weed but it gets hot enough (around 250C or something) to vaporize ONLY two chemicals: THC and the oil that gives it flavor. This cloud fills up in this oven bag. It,s great. Much more efficient than smoking. Plus, the high is better. You don't get the tiredness that you get from smoke inhalation. I can toke and then go running. Vaporization as a smokeless cannabis delivery syst...[Clin Pharmacol Ther. 2007] - PubMed Result Evaluation of a vaporizing device (Volcano) for th...[J Pharm Sci. 2006] - PubMed Result __________________ He'll give you breathing holes and you'll think you're happy. Last edited by InAJar; 04-06-2008 at 06:00 PM.

04-06-2008, 06:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	alright already. I'll get the vape. But, it will be really hard to convince my husband...He is hellbent on me just quitting. I'm gonna have to use my feminine powers of persuasion...by powers of persuasion I mean a really good bj. hahahahahahahaha Edit: My next post on this thread will be after my 1st vape session. __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

04-06-2008, 06:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
InAJar Ohm Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 343 Thanks: 26 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	go ahead and let your husband quit. more for you. __________________ He'll give you breathing holes and you'll think you're happy.

04-06-2008, 07:01 PM	#16 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 555 Thanks: 80 Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts	I lied. I haven't vaped yet. But I'm posting anyway. But my man does not smoke. Has only tried it once, when he was a kid, did not like it, and will never try it again. __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb