Interesting Thought

BionicLungSmoker · 07-15-2006, 07:33 PM

If we have had many lives before the ones we are living now, then every one of us is resposible for the history we read about in books. We are reading stories about ourselves. Does this make any sense?

Waves · 07-15-2006, 07:40 PM

Perfect.

What makes even more sense is that this is all happening NOW, with our minds being the thing creating the "time" we percieve!

You are me, in fact.

BionicLungSmoker · 07-15-2006, 07:42 PM

We have all made a dent on this Earth many times over and will continue. We are all famous in a way

Waves · 07-15-2006, 07:46 PM

you are the most famous person in your life

BionicLungSmoker · 07-15-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Waves

you are the most famous person in your life

thats not what I meant. Every person written in the history books could of been you

Waves · 07-15-2006, 09:39 PM

well thats what i meant.

im saying you HAVE been every person in "the books" and you will continue to be. thats infinite. infinite basics. its not a matter of "you could be jesus."

in infinite, you HAVE been jesus and will be jesus an infinite number of times

but really, all you can be is be yourself.

BionicLungSmoker · 07-15-2006, 09:52 PM

ok so your saying we all have been jesus? How could we all be the same person? Im not so sure I follow. All I was thinking is that we all have in one point ni the past been responsible for major historic events. You could of been King Of England, or A President ect ect anything really

Waves · 07-15-2006, 10:04 PM

Right, I agree.

Im saying that in an infinite existence, the only difference in the perception of energy, and in our case "things" (time, space, color, sound, the keyboard you type on etc) is your minds configuration. In infinite, your mind has been configured infinite times. So you have been infinite people. Including Jesus.

The Rev · 07-16-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicLungSmoker

thats not what I meant. Every person written in the history books could of been you

The Tibetan Buddhists take this a step further, with reincarnation as an animal also being possible. They figure that, with everyone having gone through so many lifetimes, that at one point or other, every living thing (animal or human, not plants for some reason) was your mother. When they decide whether to swat a fly, IOW, they think, "Hmmm... at some point, the soul occupying this fly was the same soul occupying my mother in a previous incarnation. Better not swat it."

The Rev

Waves · 07-16-2006, 11:12 PM

We are all energy, and physics is starting to prove this.

Energy is infinite, we are all infinite. It wouldnt make sense for there NOT to be infinite. I can sit and think of a line, and extend that line for infinite in my head. thats truth.

The only difference is how we are configured to percieve things, or the configuration of the energy that defines us and our perception. In infinite, we MUST have been dogs, and cats, and mother teresa, and jesus christ. It just so happens that this person you inhabit right now is the best possible way for you to experience what you intend to experience. Maybe later the life of Jesus or Moses might be appropriate for your choice. But it is important, i think, to realize the value of Infinity and what its implications are.

Ego Tripping · 07-17-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Waves

We are all energy, and physics is starting to prove this.

Physics has proven this for over 20 years.

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Energy is infinite, we are all infinite. It wouldnt make sense for there NOT to be infinite. I can sit and think of a line, and extend that line for infinite in my head. thats truth.

Word. But a Straight Line doesn't change or progress. Instead think of that Straight Line as a Spiral and you're a bit more accurate. To even be more accurate, think of a straight line extending with a spiral going around it. This is the construction of Light.

Blue_Dolphin · 07-17-2006, 11:25 AM

I do not believe in reincarnation. My husband does and it sometimes upsets me. He thinks that the tree outside has a soul... and maybe our cat used to be human... and that our daughter has been a human before because she is so advanced.

I don't think so. I think that we have one chance to believe or not believe in God and that is it.

ziplock · 07-17-2006, 12:02 PM

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I don't think so. I think that we have one chance to believe or not believe in God and that is it.

Why's that?

BionicLungSmoker · 07-17-2006, 12:37 PM

I don't think reincarnatioin transfers to other species. I think if your human you only reincarnate into other people.

ziplock · 07-17-2006, 12:40 PM

So how'd you become human?

Ego Tripping · 07-17-2006, 01:04 PM

^ Bingo, you rock.

BionicLungSmoker · 07-17-2006, 01:22 PM

what does that mean? As soon as man was put or evolved on Earth

We were probably animal like when we first strated but currently I dont think someone dies and comes back as a spider or turtle or whatever animal insect.

Im reading Sylvia Brown and she does make a lot of sense to me. From what I understand from her is people are seprate from animals when reincarnating.

ziplock · 07-17-2006, 01:38 PM

Oh okay. So what I'm getting then is that you believe reincarnation can transfer into other species, as in we evolved from animals, and that once you've achieved being human there is no reverting back to an animal in any form after life. Correct? So, if assuming that for a minute, you would remain human until there was some sort of better vessel for your soul like an evolved human and you would then transfer to that?

verklingen · 07-17-2006, 01:48 PM

You are able to "learn" because you already "know." In other words, we can describe evolution because we've already lived through it. We can describe history because we've already lived through it.

Because infinity renders time irrelevent, we can even describe the future because we have already lived through it. We can define the path of our "story:" because we are writers, and the writer always knows the ending (whether he realizes it or not).

EDIT: I'll expound later to make that a bit more clear.

Beyonder · 07-17-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rev

The Tibetan Buddhists take this a step further, with reincarnation as an animal also being possible. They figure that, with everyone having gone through so many lifetimes, that at one point or other, every living thing (animal or human, not plants for some reason) was your mother. When they decide whether to swat a fly, IOW, they think, "Hmmm... at some point, the soul occupying this fly was the same soul occupying my mother in a previous incarnation. Better not swat it."

The Rev

That's the exoteric view. The esoteric view is that you can't reincarnate into a body wich doesn't have the attributes you've attained through previous lives. bongsmilie

07-15-2006, 07:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
BionicLungSmoker Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Interesting Thought If we have had many lives before the ones we are living now, then every one of us is resposible for the history we read about in books. We are reading stories about ourselves. Does this make any sense? __________________ "Our bodies are prisons, for our souls. All flesh decays... death turns all to ash. And thus, death frees every soul."

07-15-2006, 07:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
BionicLungSmoker Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	We have all made a dent on this Earth many times over and will continue. We are all famous in a way __________________ "Our bodies are prisons, for our souls. All flesh decays... death turns all to ash. And thus, death frees every soul."

07-15-2006, 09:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
BionicLungSmoker Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	ok so your saying we all have been jesus? How could we all be the same person? Im not so sure I follow. All I was thinking is that we all have in one point ni the past been responsible for major historic events. You could of been King Of England, or A President ect ect anything really __________________ "Our bodies are prisons, for our souls. All flesh decays... death turns all to ash. And thus, death frees every soul."

07-17-2006, 11:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
Blue_Dolphin Princess Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,752 Thanks: 65 Thanked 75 Times in 50 Posts	I do not believe in reincarnation. My husband does and it sometimes upsets me. He thinks that the tree outside has a soul... and maybe our cat used to be human... and that our daughter has been a human before because she is so advanced. I don't think so. I think that we have one chance to believe or not believe in God and that is it. __________________

07-17-2006, 12:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
BionicLungSmoker Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	I don't think reincarnatioin transfers to other species. I think if your human you only reincarnate into other people. __________________ "Our bodies are prisons, for our souls. All flesh decays... death turns all to ash. And thus, death frees every soul."

07-17-2006, 12:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
ziplock Dreamer of the dreams Join Date: May 2004 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,002 Thanks: 10 Thanked 47 Times in 32 Posts	So how'd you become human? __________________ If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants.

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Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,545 Thanks: 39 Thanked 201 Times in 119 Posts	^ Bingo, you rock. __________________ I don`t fear the fear, it`s just a state of mind. - farmergiles

07-17-2006, 01:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
BionicLungSmoker Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	what does that mean? As soon as man was put or evolved on Earth We were probably animal like when we first strated but currently I dont think someone dies and comes back as a spider or turtle or whatever animal insect. Im reading Sylvia Brown and she does make a lot of sense to me. From what I understand from her is people are seprate from animals when reincarnating. __________________ "Our bodies are prisons, for our souls. All flesh decays... death turns all to ash. And thus, death frees every soul." Last edited by BionicLungSmoker; 07-17-2006 at 01:24 PM.

07-17-2006, 01:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
ziplock Dreamer of the dreams Join Date: May 2004 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,002 Thanks: 10 Thanked 47 Times in 32 Posts	Oh okay. So what I'm getting then is that you believe reincarnation can transfer into other species, as in we evolved from animals, and that once you've achieved being human there is no reverting back to an animal in any form after life. Correct? So, if assuming that for a minute, you would remain human until there was some sort of better vessel for your soul like an evolved human and you would then transfer to that? __________________ If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants.

07-17-2006, 01:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
verklingen what is Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in the sun Posts: 5,894 Thanks: 232 Thanked 546 Times in 322 Posts	You are able to "learn" because you already "know." In other words, we can describe evolution because we've already lived through it. We can describe history because we've already lived through it. Because infinity renders time irrelevent, we can even describe the future because we have already lived through it. We can define the path of our "story:" because we are writers, and the writer always knows the ending (whether he realizes it or not). EDIT: I'll expound later to make that a bit more clear. __________________ you can't explain the rules of tennis to a dog, but he runs after it and plays with it...like the dog playing with the ball, we don't have the necessary tools needed to interpret the afterlife..until we get there, then a whole new universe is given to us. Perhaps 200 billion light years away, there's the next phase of our existance..Remember you cannot destroy energy, which is all we are... -matthew munari rip matt Last edited by verklingen; 07-17-2006 at 01:52 PM.