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Old 04-08-2007, 01:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A question for atheists

Why do I get the impression that some atheists, specifically those who feel the need to consistently attack any sort of religious belief, have made it their job to belittle, criticize, and "prove wrong" people that do have religion in their lives?

It seems rather odd to me. Some of their biggest points seem to be that religion is the the biggest evil on the planet and that religious type seek to impose their will on everyone else. The later complaint seems especially odd to me given that these same people generally do their best to tell you that your religion is nothing more than a creation of you weak mind and that you need to "wake up".
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Old 04-08-2007, 02:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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to keep themselves from feeling kinda guilty for completely disowning god. they need to bring up their points to assure themselves that theyre in fact the right ones. eh i wish i wasn't one of these people

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Well, to be fair.... some Christians are just too easy to tear apart. I don't do that though.

I think it's because to the atheist the concept of god, or humans understanding and knowing god, is laughable at best.

I personally don't give a fuck what people think though. I'm all about riding this sinking ship of a world right down to hell. *Hoping that there is a hell*
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Yeah, thats another thing. If you try to explain to that person that your concept of spirituality and religion is more advanced than the childish "God is an old man with a white beard who lives in a city of cloudy called heaving & Hell is a fiery cave underground" they simply go "No, don't care. You're still a moron".
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't think like that. When i think of god, I think more of an intelligent energy. I'm not even the person in question. I don't really think like that. I think that god may or may not be there, but it's kind of pointless to care. I don't argue with christians.... I just tried to answer your question because I enjoy awswering questions.
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I don't know if I'm atheist I don't believe in anything. But I just like to argue with people who believe in god, and ones who don't. I do the same with politics. No real stance, I just like to argue both ways.
 
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Originally Posted by DubStyle311 View Post
Why do I get the impression that some atheists, specifically those who feel the need to consistently attack any sort of religious belief, have made it their job to belittle, criticize, and "prove wrong" people that do have religion in their lives?

It seems rather odd to me. Some of their biggest points seem to be that religion is the the biggest evil on the planet and that religious type seek to impose their will on everyone else. The later complaint seems especially odd to me given that these same people generally do their best to tell you that your religion is nothing more than a creation of you weak mind and that you need to "wake up".
its more that i don't believe that anyone can say that anyone knows more than each other.

I still prefer the science option when i look at it logically but i do understand the need for spiritual solutions sometimes.

I hate arrogance and ignorance and prefer people to keep their own unfounded beliefs to themselves.
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DubStyle311 View Post
Why do I get the impression that some atheists,.

Why do I get the feeling that you're generalizing?

Of course some do that...and some don't. Those that do are just being what they hate; close-mindedness.
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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to be honest. i think the majority of opinionated groups are like that.

like anti-weed opinionated people.
and pro-life (not picking sides) seems to want to tell everyone how its sposed to be

kinda get what im saying?
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yes, I never understood why SOME atheists feel so. . .evangelical about their lack of beliefs. All the atheists I know tend to keep their disbelief in the supernatural to themselves, and let others have their 'fairytales'.

In my opinion any atheist who would go around arguing and debating regular people who believe in the supernatural is a social retard.
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes, I never understood why SOME atheists feel so. . .evangelical about their lack of beliefs. All the atheists I know tend to keep their disbelief in the supernatural to themselves, and let others have their 'fairytales'.

In my opinion any atheist who would go around arguing and debating regular people who believe in the supernatural is a social retard.
I guess Richard Dawkins is the type of person you're talking about. He apparently feels the need to be quite 'evangelical' about atheism because he thinks it is at the very least a waste for so many people to devote their whole lives to demonstrably false, anti-intellectual or even damaging belief systems.

But atheism should not be lumped in as another belief system being preached. Atheism is not a belief that there is no god, but a lack of belief in any particular god. There's a world of difference and many people don't seem to make the distinction.

Is it 'okay' to believe the tooth fairy will solve all my problems, as long as that belief is socially acceptable? What about when the belief is a little more imposing, like for example the belief that women are inferior to men, or that slaying people who don't believe what you do will get you into heaven?

What's wrong with pointing out irrational belief for what it is?
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very nice. didnt get it at first. but i totally see what you mean.

kinda reminds me of that sp episode, where everyone becomes atheist and then joins a group or whatever.

the point of atheism is there is no organization, theres just nothing.

i think the sp episode does a good job of pointing all that out too.
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Atheist - someone who Doesn't believe in a god.
Antitheist - Someone who opposes religion in general.
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I guess Richard Dawkins is the type of person you're talking about.
No, I don’t mean people like Richard Dawkins. Richard Dawkins is an intellectual who sells books to people who wish to read them, and gives lectures to people who wish to hear them. I have no more trouble with him than a Christian preacher in his church.

What I meant were people at work, or in public who go about annoying other people with their antitheist, or theist ejaculations. While these people have a right to their opinions, whether these opinions be pro or anti religion, as well as a right to express them in public; it annoys me when they chose inappropriate times and places to ambush people who do not wish to hear them.

These people are social retards.
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Why do I get the feeling that you're generalizing?
well he did say 'some'

I wouldn't call myself an atheist, because I don't rule out the possibility of a higher power. I don't buy into mainstream religion either, but if that's your thing more power to you.

I just hate how assholes like bush can trick people into thinking he is a good person just because he says he's a Christian... How can you be a Christian who doesn't care about the less fortunate?? my 2 cents
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Why do I get the impression that some atheists, specifically those who feel the need to consistently attack any sort of religious belief, have made it their job to belittle, criticize, and "prove wrong" people that do have religion in their lives?

It seems rather odd to me. Some of their biggest points seem to be that religion is the the biggest evil on the planet and that religious type seek to impose their will on everyone else. The later complaint seems especially odd to me given that these same people generally do their best to tell you that your religion is nothing more than a creation of you weak mind and that you need to "wake up".
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Well, to be fair.... some Christians are just too easy to tear apart. I don't do that though.

I think it's because to the atheist the concept of god, or humans understanding and knowing god, is laughable at best.

I personally don't give a fuck what people think though. I'm all about riding this sinking ship of a world right down to hell. *Hoping that there is a hell*
yeah. if there was a god, i wonder what he would do about us destroying the earth.
 
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well he did say 'some'

I wouldn't call myself an atheist, because I don't rule out the possibility of a higher power. I don't buy into mainstream religion either, but if that's your thing more power to you.

I just hate how assholes like bush can trick people into thinking he is a good person just because he says he's a Christian... How can you be a Christian who doesn't care about the less fortunate?? my 2 cents
i agree. its the same with every religion though. bush is using christianity to get backing for the war (kind of like the crusades) just like some radicals are twisting islam and interpereting it so they can justify war. if you read the old testament you will find that "god" tells them that they can kill, torture and rape people in his name and its ok.
 
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in my opinion, The concept of a single entity creating and ruling over all is absurd. Religion was created to ease the minds of humans. What is beyond this life? How did we get here? These questions are only answered because of the individual that we claim to be "god". I am spiritual but as said in the post above, dont buy in to the mainstream bullshit. In this modern era, it is basically accepted that one entity is the ruler. In the past there have been a multiplicity of these "gods". How can that be? Well, its because nobody truly knows that answer. We just make shit up to calm ourselves down.
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fuck religion, but at the same time, who gives a fuck what people believe as long as they keep it to themselves. fanatics and people who try to convert\impose religion on others need a swift blow to the temple.
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