What if Jesus appeared in this lifetime? - Page 3

**v3d4** · 05-16-2008, 09:20 AM

you gonna find out when He come back, and then all your joking around wont seem so funny anymore

how is it that ppl can be so ignorant unless its willful? here is the truth: Jesus will come back, and on that day every knee will bend and every tongue will confess

turmaline · 05-16-2008, 09:22 AM

I'm not joking I love JJesus, it's the truth though when you think about the human population. They won't believe anything unless it was something as in your face as a live talking bird or animal.

Look what happened to the poor guy the first time he came around.

kamikazi89 · 05-16-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by v3d4

you gonna find out when He come back, and then all your joking around wont seem so funny anymore

how is it that ppl can be so ignorant unless its willful? here is the truth: Jesus will come back, and on that day every knee will bend and every tongue will confess

not mine..guarenteed

matthewmunari · 05-16-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Milton Bradley

what if Jesus was a female downsyndrome child?

even more to think about.

thats smoked out

matthewmunari · 05-16-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Milton Bradley

I'm not joking I love JJesus, it's the truth though when you think about the human population. They won't believe anything unless it was something as in your face as a live talking bird or animal.

Look what happened to the poor guy the first time he came around.

i like you m.b. you make me laugh

matthewmunari · 05-16-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by v3d4

you gonna find out when He come back, and then all your joking around wont seem so funny anymore

how is it that ppl can be so ignorant unless its willful? here is the truth: Jesus will come back, and on that day every knee will bend and every tongue will confess

that they will do...

you speak the truth....

kamikazi89 · 05-16-2008, 09:32 AM

seriously though, if it involves penis, i do not get down on my knees.
i do have a soft spot in my heart concerning quakers, however.(just the women)

matthewmunari · 05-16-2008, 10:26 AM

cuz this is some smoked out shit!

josh22_22 · 06-04-2008, 11:00 PM

Thats just SAD. So many people think he is coming back
Think about it.

What are we, as society, going to accomplish if so many people are thinking that the worlds gonna end or something. Sad.

matthewmunari · 06-05-2008, 10:46 AM

we had to be created by something... everything is too perfect for "chance"

spicoli · 06-05-2008, 01:11 PM

He'll come back. i do hope to see it in my lifetime. not only for the beauty and awe He will inspire, but the looks on their faces when non-believers see the truth for themselves, and watching people transition from having no faith to believing. i love a happy 'ending' so to speak.

josh22_22 · 06-05-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewmunari

we had to be created by something... everything is too perfect for "chance"

Okay so we don't know how the Universe came to be. But we do know how we came to be.

I hope by chance you mean the universe and not us. Because we just don't evolve out of chance. As you know, everyone is different to some extent (due to the difference in the genes in different people). And all evolution is that some types of "people"(spices) die off due to a natural change. The remaining reproduce and only those types of people remain (until conditions change again) So its not by chance, it has a reason behind it. By chance you are saying that it randomly occurs.

JcP · 06-05-2008, 05:32 PM

no, what he is saying is that your (and a lot of other people's) theory of how "we" came to be is half-baked.

While you are correct in how humans came to be (evolution) this in no way addresses how there is such a system as evolution, how evolution lead to your unexplainable existance, or more importantly how there is anything to evolve in the first place.

So you're right that we know how we came to be, assuming you mean this in the most basic of ways...because we also don't know how we came to be, since we don't have a CLUE as to why there was anything to evolve in the first place.

josh22_22 · 06-05-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JcP

no, what he is saying is that your (and a lot of other people's) theory of how "we" came to be is half-baked.

While you are correct in how humans came to be (evolution) this in no way addresses how there is such a system as evolution, how evolution lead to your unexplainable existance, or more importantly how there is anything to evolve in the first place.

So you're right that we know how we came to be, assuming you mean this in the most basic of ways...because we also don't know how we came to be, since we don't have a CLUE as to why there was anything to evolve in the first place.

so like are you saying why inorganic turned to organic? Like a bunch of chemicals turned into a cell?

If you are, there is an explanation for that. All DNA and life is a bunch of Amino Acids. And those amino acids can be made by passing a current through water which contains substances to be found in the early stages of the earth. Scientists have actually made life from chemicals to be found on earth back then. Once you have the amino acids, over millions of years those amino acids assemble them selves in random order. The best suited remain on earth and new versions of them come out while the the not so best suited get destroyed. And you might be wondering how do these become separate from the water it self? Lipids(fat) do the trick. Thats all cell membranes are, Oil. And you may have noticed when you put oil and water in jar they do not mix. Once you have basic amino acids you end up with organelles and RNA. That leads to more complexity and everything just keeps on getting more complex as complexity leads to better survival.

I'm no expert on this, so some of my stuff might be wrong. But I have the basic concept right. This is what I learned in Biology two years ago and I don't remember some stuff. You can always research more on the internet if you are interested. PhD professers and people who dedicated their life to this are far better equipped to explain this to you.

So that being said, Biology, or study or life, has been fully figured out. Science is now stuck on problems with physics. As physics is what created everything. Physics leads to Chemistry which leads to Biology.
Physics is hard to understand because it has some laws and conditions that are so crazy that you would be better of believing in fairy tales. The human brain has limitations to what we can understand. Only a few can understand those concepts (i'm not one of them). For example 4 dementional thinking which relativity proposes. And all of those other crzay ideas that you might have heard. Like time is slower in space than on earth.
Like my physics prof. said "physics is the science that is on drugs."

matthewmunari · 06-05-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by josh22_22

so like are you saying why inorganic turned to organic? Like a bunch of chemicals turned into a cell?

If you are, there is an explanation for that. All DNA and life is a bunch of Amino Acids. And those amino acids can be made by passing a current through water which contains substances to be found in the early stages of the earth. Scientists have actually made life from chemicals to be found on earth back then. Once you have the amino acids, over millions of years those amino acids assemble them selves in random order. The best suited remain on earth and new versions of them come out while the the not so best suited get destroyed. And you might be wondering how do these become separate from the water it self? Lipids(fat) do the trick. Thats all cell membranes are, Oil. And you may have noticed when you put oil and water in jar they do not mix. Once you have basic amino acids you end up with organelles and RNA. That leads to more complexity and everything just keeps on getting more complex as complexity leads to better survival.

I'm no expert on this, so some of my stuff might be wrong. But I have the basic concept right. This is what I learned in Biology two years ago and I don't remember some stuff. You can always research more on the internet if you are interested. PhD professers and people who dedicated their life to this are far better equipped to explain this to you.

So that being said, Biology, or study or life, has been fully figured out. Science is now stuck on problems with physics. As physics is what created everything. Physics leads to Chemistry which leads to Biology.
Physics is hard to understand because it has some laws and conditions that are so crazy that you would be better of believing in fairy tales. The human brain has limitations to what we can understand. Only a few can understand those concepts (i'm not one of them). For example 4 dementional thinking which relativity proposes. And all of those other crzay ideas that you might have heard. Like time is slower in space than on earth.
Like my physics prof. said "physics is the science that is on drugs."

theyve peered through telescopes, and now are catching "baby" pics of the universe..by baby pix i mean like 70 million years after the big bang, and its funny that you bring up physics, because i've witnessed things THAT DEFY the laws of physics with my own 2 eyes.....A lighter doesnt propel itself into the air and hit the wall..(it wasnt out of fluid either).....human beings are too perfect (i dont mean beautiful) to have evolved from an ape....we have 2 eyes, ears, reproductive parts, everything is supposed to work flawless..there are exceptions to the rule of course, but even if you aren't a creationist, then explain where the first animals (i mean pre-historic) came from? they were fossilized by chance so we could catch a glimpse of the early years....we are infants in the grand scheme of things, and yet in the last 100 years we've made more progress than the previous eras & eons combined...now I know some of you think I'm a nutjob, but something had to act as a catalyst for our current technology...Why is the U.S. gvt. so secretive about things like aliens, and the like.....there are witnessess that (on their death bed) confessed the U.S. had alien technology.....:bigj oint:

josh22_22 · 06-05-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewmunari

theyve peered through telescopes, and now are catching "baby" pics of the universe..by baby pix i mean like 70 million years after the big bang, and its funny that you bring up physics, because i've witnessed things THAT DEFY the laws of physics with my own 2 eyes.....A lighter doesnt propel itself into the air and hit the wall..(it wasnt out of fluid either).....human beings are too perfect (i dont mean beautiful) to have evolved from an ape....we have 2 eyes, ears, reproductive parts, everything is supposed to work flawless..there are exceptions to the rule of course, but even if you aren't a creationist, then explain where the first animals (i mean pre-historic) came from? they were fossilized by chance so we could catch a glimpse of the early years....we are infants in the grand scheme of things, and yet in the last 100 years we've made more progress than the previous eras & eons combined...now I know some of you think I'm a nutjob, but something had to act as a catalyst for our current technology...Why is the U.S. gvt. so secretive about things like aliens, and the like.....there are witnessess that (on their death bed) confessed the U.S. had alien technology.....:bigj oint:

okay so first i didn't understand the part about the lighter, explain that better.

next you mention we don't come from apes. But do u realize the things that are supposed to work perfect (2 eyes, ears, reproductive parts) the apes also have them. You can see the similarities physically, socially, psychologically, and finally through DNA.

And the stuff about the first animals, I explained how the first cell forms. Cells reproduce asexually if you look at them alone. They are just making copies of themselves. Some cells clumped together and other remained by themselves. Naturally, look at anything, strength lies in number. You can break one stick with ease, but try breaking 50 sticks at once; it doesn't work. So naturally cells that clump together would have a better chance of surviving the extreme conditions of the earth.
Everything kept on getting bigger and bigger more millions of years. Thats why there were those pre-historic animals which were really big. Big birds, Dinasours etc. Until conditions on earth changed (that meteor hit) and there most of the big trees were wiped, the whole landscape was changed, there were massive extinctions. Everything that was still moderate in size was able to survive. Since the landscape couldn't support as big creatures, nature didn't favor their evolution. Instead having more brains, meant you could survive the best. Which leads us to mammals in general, and further monkey and then us.

And I don't know if there are alien's or not. Odds are in favor though. And I do not think the government is capable to hiding such big thing. Do you really believe that aliens are only going to come to the U.S.A. I know other countries have had citing too, but the odds are AGAINST aliens from coming to this planet. Because we have looked around us and nothing seems to have life for a couple of light years away for sure (condering life as we know it). But suppose their was life I don't know some light years away, how would they come here. Nothing can travel at the speed of light, except for light. Not even an electron moves at the speed of light. Light, weighing nothing, is able to travel at light. So anything that wants to travel at the speed of light must weight nothing. But that's not possible because to be something you have to have be made up of atoms and electrons at the molecular level, and since its a know fact that an atom can't go at the speed of light nothing can go at the speed of light.
And just for the hell of, say the aliens can go at the speed of light, why would they be secretive? I mean just showing up on picture slightly? Or just a glance on video with lights. If they have really found a way to come here wouldn't they be interested in us, whether its to do us harm or to do us good (like take our water or something).
I think that people who see aliens are just seeing lights in a random order or things in a random order, and since humans hate the idea of random (evolution) they have to label it to something greater. Just like when people didn't understand rain, they said god created it, but know we know god doesn't, clouds do.
Mostly people tend to believe in conspiracy theories because its more interesting than just some random bullshit talking place. We associate something greater to it because we want to feel important, we want attention, we want to feel as if we are the center of the universe(like they literally used to).

05-16-2008, 09:20 AM	#41 (permalink)
v3d4 sky mind daughter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lartajuna Posts: 5,593 Thanks: 29 Thanked 143 Times in 79 Posts	you gonna find out when He come back, and then all your joking around wont seem so funny anymore how is it that ppl can be so ignorant unless its willful? here is the truth: Jesus will come back, and on that day every knee will bend and every tongue will confess __________________ remember our Governor Ken Gorman

06-05-2008, 01:11 PM	#51 (permalink)
spicoli YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cali Posts: 543 Thanks: 79 Thanked 52 Times in 42 Posts	He'll come back. i do hope to see it in my lifetime. not only for the beauty and awe He will inspire, but the looks on their faces when non-believers see the truth for themselves, and watching people transition from having no faith to believing. i love a happy 'ending' so to speak. __________________ "Bad is never good until worse happens." -Danish Proverb

05-16-2008, 09:22 AM	#42 (permalink)
turmaline YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 252 Thanks: 1 Thanked 24 Times in 17 Posts	I'm not joking I love JJesus, it's the truth though when you think about the human population. They won't believe anything unless it was something as in your face as a live talking bird or animal. Look what happened to the poor guy the first time he came around.

06-04-2008, 11:00 PM	#49 (permalink)
josh22_22 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thats just SAD. So many people think he is coming back Think about it. What are we, as society, going to accomplish if so many people are thinking that the worlds gonna end or something. Sad.