Vegetarianism

[JainVeganBuddha]

Originally Posted by SweetSativa

Carbs are addictive. When you eat starchy foods, you blood sugar gets higher than normal and then it plummets real low so you feel hungry again and crave the same starchy sugary foods. If you stop consuming breads and sugars and what-not you often have physical withdrawal symptoms (I did) before your blood sugar levels even out. I don't think meat is addictive. It's about balance. It's not good for you to eat too much red meat (some is good as long as it is chewed properly, etc... you get iron and lots of valuable vitamins and minerals... especially from liver). It's also not good for you to eat refined white sugar or white flour. We eat too much meat and not enough veggies and whole grains in this country. We eat way too much white sugar, white flour, and potatoes as well.

eat your own meat if it is so nutrtious. you can also drink straight blood to get all those nutrients and human blood would be the best..baby blood probably being optimum...so go on and vamp out for maximum health and immortal longevity

[TetraHydroCannabinol]

anything that is consumed is about suffering,
only the best food involves suffering.
how about eating a human fetus less then a week old, it has no means to feel pain, no nervous system, and its real high in protein.

[Smaerd]

Don't push your beliefs on other people. I'm a practicing vegatarian, and that is NOT what its about. it's a dietary CHOICE. He was just saying a point. We live in a world were our water is altered. So it doesn't really matter.

Just cuz you were a band shirt and someone doesn't understand their music, and trash talks you for it, doesn't mean you let the blood spill. Because attacking ignorance does nothing but create more ignorance. Educate or STFU. This is FRUITLESS.

Did you guys know that pitty, and praise(just the sensations) are addictive? Does it mean we can't experiance them. You smoke weed to get stoned so your viability of an angelic lifestyle is uncredible because it's well known the ingesting marijuana is A) most spiritual and B)Has less health hazards aside form the shits.

You can't even hate on mcdonalds really I mean atleast 90% of their "meat" is soy filler. I'd be more worried about places like organic food store because the meat they have there is real and whole.

I would eat human flesh because I bet my body knows how to digest it better then anything else...Hence also why I believe DMT is the safest drug.

Go eat turds, you probably also believe that ebign a vegetarian for 5 years is better then someone whose been one for a week. when in reality a vegatarian is a vegetarian and there are no higher levels.

Do you drive a car, are you aware the a car releases carcinogens such as benzene. Your killing people all day asshole.

I hate the aesthetics of neohippies. I only don't eat meat because it makes me rip nasty ass all day. and I tried to start again but I got reallly sick, so the side effects of being vegetarian aren't so great either. STUDIES SHOW THAT PLANTS CONTAIN THE SAME CHEMICALS THAT EXPRESS EMOTIONS IN THE HUMAN BODY HENCE WHY DMT CAN BE SYNTH'D FROM A COMMON GRASS. SO YOUR ALWAYS HURTING SOMEHTING OR SOMEONE BY EXISTING.

Atleast if your a meat eater you can cease; and have experianced both ways of life. Whereas as a vegetarian you can only chose one path. CLOSE MINDED DKJBSDULHSFD

It's only human to love the blood spill, otherwise no one would watch horror movies, gladiators would have never existed. I promote the bacteria that we truely are in this dimension.

[Smaerd]

Do you beleive that to stop the "war on terror" we should stop buying all products that have made any spare change in America? Because America Waged the war. It's the only personal way, to contribute to stopping funding the war. Be a martyr, at least die for it. Maybe someone will write a book about your amazing unique life? Then it'll have meaning.

Dieing can't be that bad, we're constructed of energy. And rememember energy cannot be created nor destroyed. So we're all infinite. Don't be afraid, man up to your convictions. Or live in mediocrity like the rest of us, and learn to DEAL with the fact that everyone is different and stop your half-ass way of life that's only real because the way you dedicate your time to deconstructing others to be "lower" then yourself. THat's more cruel then actually killing something IMO; allowing something to live with no purpose.

[Vik*star*]

This is a stupid argument. All prehistoric ppl used to consume meat. Wivout them we would'nt be here. Nature is designed that way: 1 living being being food for other living being. There;s nothing wrong with it.
The fact is we can't eat non living things like stones, mountains or sand etc. So even if you are veggetarian, you are really consuming a living thing and that to me is same as eating meat.


Though I would add tho, that most ppl these days eat the meat slaughtered by other ppl and MOST of them don't really have balls to kill even a bird let alone cows and pigs.

[Captain Cannabis]

Originally Posted by Smaerd

THat's more cruel then actually killing something IMO; allowing something to live with no purpose.

awesome

[Smaerd]

I'm glad someone cought that little tag-line with-in my other logical point...hahah, sometimes I forget other people do read into things.

[Bud Head]

Originally Posted by JainVeganBuddha

...after my heart surgery...

told you so

now just wait until you reincarnate as a factory farmed animal. then youll really be feeling the effects

Heart surgery wasn't due to what i eat.. It was an inherited disease.. Only a matter of time..

Do you smoke pot?

[Smaerd]

That's straight up a fucked up thing to say. Especially about someone you don't know.

[Mescalito]

I am addicted to asparagus.. is that a bad thing?

M

[©antSEEme]

lol! @ die-hards on both sides of the vegan/meateater food matter

life is all about balance, which includes food imo.

[JainVeganBuddha]

a lot of the discussion has been centered around human health, ecology, economy...thats fine but i would like to point out some other considerations. We should also consider compassion and kindness to animals. Eating animals and animal products as well as wearing them entails so much cruelty, brutality, and violence to animals and their families. they are separated from their families and friends, sold like slaves, imprisoned, and killed--often very cruelly, as in factory farming.

I dont think this kind of behavior is good for our spirits or bodies. As a former big meat eater, I think there are definite effects on the consciousness and subtle qualities. In india it is believed that it takes about 7 years of pure vegetarianism to purify your consciousness (time it takes all body cells to renew).

Comparative biology marks humans as plant and fruit eaters. Our capacity for sensitivity, kindness and compassion may further qualify us. Eating flesh somehow subtly dulls and deadens those qualities in us through some metaphysical pathways. This brings us to dreadful depths and karmic cycles--including aggression, anger, violence, and wars.

Our teeth stomach acid, intestine length, and fingernails all coincide perfectly with vegetarian animals. (human canine teeth will not do jack to an animal hide, and most animals would easily escape of whup our buts if we took them on hand to hand, )

but it is actually a nice feeling to be friends with animals and treat them with honor and respect. Animals are beautiful, have unique personalities just like us, love their families, appreciate help and kindness, can be your friend, want to be free, and are like us in many ways. To those who are conscious of it, they are also a part of us in our collective identity as the great spirit and our one living planet and universe. What we do to them, we do to all.

I challenge anyone to go somewhere and get to know one of the animals you eat. Get to know that animal for a short time or a week and see how your feelings change..i know some wont but some will.

All i am saying guys is that vegetarianism leads to good karma, good health, and higher heavenly worlds and dimensions increasingly free from bad vibes and suffering, thats all.

plus i believe it is good karma, so i recommend it. (i love it)

[JainVeganBuddha]

This has been posted before, but i think that this is an appropriate place to post it up.

[Captain Cannabis]

if you think a cow could somehow defend itself from me if i was hungry i think you are overestimating cows and underestimating me.

[JainVeganBuddha]

this is really a great one too...youre gonna thank me for this

[JainVeganBuddha]

Originally Posted by Captain Cannabis

if you think a cow could somehow defend itself from me if i was hungry i think you are overestimating cows and underestimating me.

think you can go hand to hand with even a large goat? A cow would destroy and crush you. one stomp would break your bones. theyre big animals....that said isnt it nicer just to be friends with them??

[Smaerd]

You totally disregarded my posts. You'd make a great American Politician, disregard valid debate and play propaganda. Worthless.

Last I checked our teeth were once flat(as cavemen when we were simple herbavoires), but due to evolution we developed canines. Teeth made to help aid us in chewing meat. Wait our bodies adapting to eating flesh? Why would they do that, last I checked evolution only kept working traits. You ever see the CIA lie detector tests done on plants?

If a cow dropped dead right in front of you do to natural causes. Would you consider eating it?

You are basing everything on your karmatic beleifs. worthless. I'm a VERY spiritual vegetarian. But vegatarianism has nothing to do with spirit. PS your beliefs have nothing to do with mine so don't spread them.

Think indians? Did they hunt? Think india? wait why did the chinese not eat so many animals...what animals natively range there(chickens and I believe they still do eat every part of them heart brain and all, sounds mildly savage...)? But Japan were and are big fishermen. But wait fish don't have flesh right?

I believe that man kind invented knives and shotguns to puncture and kill murder and sloughter animals helplessly. Find another animal that can do that and we'll call it fair game as to who eats who.

If a coyote RAVAGES your house cat is it going to hell? or "being placed lower spiritually due to it's bad karma". Foolish.

This isn't about you eating meat. It's about you thinking your meat is bigger then everyone elses because you deny your body natural sources of vitamin b-12 and b-6.

I already disregard you as someone I can share any source of information with, so your pretty much worthless too me on this forum unless you prove yourself right now. You might as well be the "DUDE T3H NUGS FROM MEXICO IN T3H BRIX R SO G00D" kid. "OMG WERE DO YOU GET RC'S ONLINE". Because you don't listen, or think beyond yourself. Lower your ego it'll aid your spirituality, that is the point of taking hallucinogens(PS Marijuana is a hallucinogen)

[JainVeganBuddha]

Originally Posted by Smaerd

You totally disregarded my posts. You'd make a great American Politician, disregard valid debate and play propaganda. Worthless.

Last I checked our teeth were once flat(as cavemen when we were simple herbavoires), but due to evolution we developed canines. Teeth made to help aid us in chewing meat. Wait our bodies adapting to eating flesh? Why would they do that, last I checked evolution only kept working traits. You ever see the CIA lie detector tests done on plants?

If a cow dropped dead right in front of you do to natural causes. Would you consider eating it?

You are basing everything on your karmatic beleifs. worthless. I'm a VERY spiritual vegetarian. But vegatarianism has nothing to do with spirit. PS your beliefs have nothing to do with mine so don't spread them.

Think indians? Did they hunt? Think india? wait why did the chinese not eat so many animals...what animals natively range there(chickens and I believe they still do eat every part of them heart brain and all, sounds mildly savage...)? But Japan were and are big fishermen. But wait fish don't have flesh right?

I believe that man kind invented knives and shotguns to puncture and kill murder and sloughter animals helplessly. Find another animal that can do that and we'll call it fair game as to who eats who.

If a coyote RAVAGES your house cat is it going to hell? or "being placed lower spiritually due to it's bad karma". Foolish.

This isn't about you eating meat. It's about you thinking your meat is bigger then everyone elses because you deny your body natural sources of vitamin b-12 and b-6.

I already disregard you as someone I can share any source of information with, so your pretty much worthless too me on this forum unless you prove yourself right now. You might as well be the "DUDE T3H NUGS FROM MEXICO IN T3H BRIX R SO G00D" kid. "OMG WERE DO YOU GET RC'S ONLINE". Because you don't listen, or think beyond yourself. Lower your ego it'll aid your spirituality, that is the point of taking hallucinogens(PS Marijuana is a hallucinogen)

first of all, your post is all over the place. you speak of evolution as some mystical force, but you are just parroting others. evolution is not fact. in my opinion evolution is conscious, a function of the spirit and up to us. do we want to evolve into violent beings who kill and harm? our evolution will continue through many lives and worlds according to our conscious choices and karmic navigation.

when one knows how to navigate in the sensitive, reactive universe, one can control the reactions and future one encounters by controlling one's own actions and effect on other living beings. in this process great kindness and compassion are our compass...yet...eati ng flesh extinguishes the light of great compassion in our hearts.

you are right about those peoples but the peoples of ancient india and africa were the founders of vegetarian civilizations and the richest ancient cultures of humanity. they are the peoples of the sun, the scions of the light of warmth and creation. through them the culture has come down. both were invaded by relatively barbaric peoples... but it still survives in various forms.

i will also say i feel you are speaking on purely earthly terms, but through practices of purification and meditation one will experience -astral- initiations experiences and abilities that make you aware of your ability to live outside the body, see other worlds--both more heavenly and hellish ones, and understand the subtleties of the workings of the universe and thereby master wise and skilled conduct.