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ESFP 0 0%
ESTP 0 0%
ENFP 3 5.66%
ENTP 2 3.77%
ESTJ 1 1.89%
ENTJ 4 7.55%
ESFJ 0 0%
ENFJ 4 7.55%
ISTJ 3 5.66%
ISFJ 1 1.89%
INFJ 11 20.75%
INTJ 8 15.09%
ISTP 2 3.77%
INTP 5 9.43%
INFP 8 15.09%
ISFP 1 1.89%
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:32 AM   #21 (permalink)
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INTP. I've taken the test 3 times throughout my college life.

The most recent time I was exactly even on the E/I, and you're supposed to favor the I.

I'm strongly weighted towards NTP.
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:16 AM   #23 (permalink)
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INFJ which is pretty convienent given that im studying psychology, and want to be a therapist one day. That was one of the carreer choices listed as a match.
 
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:56 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Interesting on the INTJ's because we only constitute 1% of the general population.

BTW... for other INTJ's.... INTJ Forum (I'm sure they have these forums for all personality types)

-Hedons
for whatever reason i wasn't really surprised to see certain of you also being INTJ.
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:51 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:52 AM   #26 (permalink)
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ENTJ type description by D.Keirsey
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Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:09 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Jung defined 4 archetypes.. mother/rebirth/spirit/trickster... anybody read his works on that?

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Old 12-03-2008, 12:25 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm gonna check this out....
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:06 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Thats a good read about neo-freudian psychology. Im a bigger follower Freuds psychology, which is more cut and dry. Jung gets a little out there with archetypes, and sensing and intuition. Freud was more real life oriented IMO
 
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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sensing and intuition are real life.
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:24 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yes they are real life, but the ways Jung interprets sensing and intuition, involve archetypes and synchronicity, which in my view is nothing more then a made up belief in someones head, not actually connected with anything outside of someones own brain. Freud understood what was at the heart of human behavior better then Jung IMO, although I respect what Jung did.
 
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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If you click on the top left hand side of that jung page that sais "personality theories" in red, you get a whole list of psychology gurus which all offer insightful stuff, like the behaviorist BF skinner who worked on pigeons and rats.
 
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Old 12-13-2008, 12:10 AM   #33 (permalink)
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One of the major reasons that Jung broke with Frued was due inpart to his obsesive ideas of the Father/Daughter realationship. His daughter Anna, who was also a psychoanalist, broke with her father's ideas, because of sexual infatuation. although she did go on to study the ego, and developed ideas in child psychology. Frued said we stop developing at age 6. Most of his patients were sexually abused women, whom he developed his theories on, and most of them were just case studies, Frued never really proved anything. He was a pioneer for sure. He found the land were the resources could be drawn, but he was no miner of the catalyst he created. Mostly Frued is good for what he did to make people draw differnt conclusions.Frued's conclusions were based on studying the 'sick', while Jung's ideas revolved around finding out what makes a person stay well, by studying healthy individuals. In my opinion that too is a better method of study. If I was paying a doctor who told me he learned everything he knew about health from sick people, then I might scratch my head alittle and wonder. It's like looking at the sinner to see what helps people be better people, instead of just looking to the good for wisdom on goodness. Know what I'm saying?

If a doctor stood on a stage today and talked about using strict Fruedian methods they would be laughed off the stage. Jung's is still highly respected, and doesn't have the ethics problems to deal with.

There aren't clinics out there practicing his methods, plain and simple. That speaks for itself.

My personal favourite approach in psycology is Narrative Theropy.

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Old 12-13-2008, 04:51 AM   #35 (permalink)
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ISTP the crafter..cool i got the same traits as Michael Jordan and Bruce Lee..
 
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Old 12-13-2008, 05:44 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Healers present a calm and serene face to the world, and can seem shy, even distant around others. But inside they're anything but serene, having a capacity for personal caring rarely found in the other types. Healers care deeply about the inner life of a few special persons, or about a favorite cause in the world at large. And their great passion is to heal the conflicts that trouble individuals, or that divide groups, and thus to bring wholeness, or health, to themselves, their loved ones, and their community.

Healers have a profound sense of idealism that comes from a strong personal sense of right and wrong. They conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place, full of wondrous possibilities and potential goods. In fact, to understand Healers, we must understand that their deep commitment to the positive and the good is almost boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for someone or something they believe in. Set off from the rest of humanity by their privacy and scarcity (around one percent of the population), Healers can feel even more isolated in the purity of their idealism.

Also, Healers might well feel a sense of separation because of their often misunderstood childhood. Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood-they are the prince or princess of fairy tales-an attitude which, sadly, is frowned upon, or even punished, by many parents. With parents who want them to get their head out of the clouds, Healers begin to believe they are bad to be so fanciful, so dreamy, and can come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. In truth, they are quite OK just as they are, only different from most others-swans reared in a family of ducks.

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One of the major reasons that Jung broke with Frued was due inpart to his obsesive ideas of the Father/Daughter realationship. His daughter Anna, who was also a psychoanalist, broke with her father's ideas, because of sexual infatuation. although she did go on to study the ego, and developed ideas in child psychology. Frued said we stop developing at age 6. Most of his patients were sexually abused women, whom he developed his theories on, and most of them were just case studies, Frued never really proved anything. He was a pioneer for sure. He found the land were the resources could be drawn, but he was no miner of the catalyst he created. Mostly Frued is good for what he did to make people draw differnt conclusions.Frued's conclusions were based on studying the 'sick', while Jung's ideas revolved around finding out what makes a person stay well, by studying healthy individuals. In my opinion that too is a better method of study. If I was paying a doctor who told me he learned everything he knew about health from sick people, then I might scratch my head alittle and wonder. It's like looking at the sinner to see what helps people be better people, instead of just looking to the good for wisdom on goodness. Know what I'm saying?

If a doctor stood on a stage today and talked about using strict Fruedian methods they would be laughed off the stage. Jung's is still highly respected, and doesn't have the ethics problems to deal with.

There aren't clinics out there practicing his methods, plain and simple. That speaks for itself.

My personal favourite approach in psycology is Narrative Theropy.
There are in fact many psychologists that practice psychoanalysis, a form of psychotherapy in which Freud created, and some people swear by it. It is all a matter of preference, one person may like things one way, another person likes things another way.

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Old 12-13-2008, 10:30 PM   #39 (permalink)
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tally another for the INTJ bandwagon...i gotta say though, the description is right on...especially about relationships n shit.
 
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