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09-03-2009, 05:12 PM
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Baby chicks lives in the egg industry.
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09-03-2009, 05:13 PM
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lol spiritual smoke?
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Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.
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09-03-2009, 05:41 PM
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Thats pretty fucked.
But why do they have to try and convince me to do something I won't? Why not talk about ways to find humanely raised chickens instead of shoving veaganism down my throat.
And though I know its no good to treat creatures like that, there wouldn't be that many chickens to kill/de-beak/etc in the first place if we didnt breed them for it.
And yea, the chicken/eggs would likely taste better/be more nutritious if they were raised more naturally.
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everything in moderarion (especially moderation)
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09-03-2009, 07:47 PM
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This ruined my day.... Wish there was some way I could stop it.
Going vegan won't stop these animals from dieing is the sad part.
Awwwe I just want a tray of them to hang out with...
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09-03-2009, 08:52 PM
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Yeah, there's nothing like a dumpster filled with male chicks to put you off eating eggs.
And, no, you can't stop it by not eating meat or eggs or whatever, but you can choose not to be a part of it.
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09-04-2009, 07:51 PM
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I had two live webcam porn sites pop up when I opened that link. Didn't see anything about chickens.....
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09-05-2009, 11:47 AM
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I only buy local and farm raised organic. Be the change people, it's really not that fucking hard.
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09-05-2009, 01:50 PM
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"Be the change you want to see in the world".
-Gandhi
Unfortunately for some folks, local and organic foods are just plain unaffordable. Do what you can to be the change you want to see in the world, maybe.
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09-05-2009, 02:21 PM
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Not SO hard to do. Learning to care for plants is a step closer to being able to keep a few chickens around for local humane meat.
American's ideas of meat portions are f**ked up. A deck of cards size peice of meat is all we need. It is our insane thirst for meat that is making this industry have to churn out so much product it is impossible to do it humanely. Not that I think Americans (in general) will ever allow themselvs to be told to slow down. But realizing that stripmining animal flesh is just as bad as stripmining ore is a good place to start.
The one good thing that will come out of the possible collapse of our economy and peak oil's bombshell is that it will be impossible to continue mass consumption thay way it is now. Just like supernovas and extinctions, in Natures beauty, destruction opens the door for amazing creation and innovation.
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09-06-2009, 07:28 PM
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Word man. We (my gf and I) eat meat 1-2X a week, and the portion is actually minimal compared to the grain/starch/veggie portions on the rest of the plate. For example, most people eat damn near half a chicken during ONE meal! We do one leg of chicken per the dish, the rest being grains and veggies. This goes beyond humane animal treatment and PETA, this is pure health. We don't need that much cooked flesh in our bodies. We, as Americans, have just been conditioned to think so because it's such a high paying industry for those supplying it to us.
It doesn't have to be giving up meat entirely, just being mindful about how much one is consuming and finding responsible ways to maintain that.
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09-06-2009, 08:39 PM
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you can't feed the whole world on organics.
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09-06-2009, 10:11 PM
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thats why the world needs to get smaller.
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09-06-2009, 10:23 PM
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that's why we need to develope healthy pesticides and sustainable genetic modifications.
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09-07-2009, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamingnun
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lol spiritual smoke?
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I felt it fit, do you have a problem with that?
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09-07-2009, 10:53 PM
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we need to end feed lots and all the bs.
fuck that i'd rather not eat genetically altered shit.
bread, pasta, rice yum
oh yeah and i like rice mixed with scrambled egg.
keep it simple.
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09-08-2009, 04:27 PM
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09-08-2009, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dozer McDozer
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fuck that i'd rather not eat genetically altered shit.
bread, pasta, rice yum
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Not to be too much of a dick, BUT, grains, rice, all domesticated crops are genetically modified. Either by selective breeding to isolate desired genetics for crop yield, or the newer more direct method of physically injecting/altering food crops' genes. We have been eating modified food for thousands of years, that is agriculture.
I would argue that done relatively slowly and across a broad scope, modern genetics have the potential to help corn survive a hotter climate, or to allow rice to boost its yield. I would also argue though, that these crops should be "designed" to be sterile, so that the native and local genetics do not get contaminated by experimental plants. Like what has been happening already unfortunately.
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09-08-2009, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nug_King
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Not to be too much of a dick, BUT, grains, rice, all domesticated crops are genetically modified. Either by selective breeding to isolate desired genetics for crop yield, or the newer more direct method of physically injecting/altering food crops' genes. We have been eating modified food for thousands of years, that is agriculture.
I would argue that done relatively slowly and across a broad scope, modern genetics have the potential to help corn survive a hotter climate, or to allow rice to boost its yield. I would also argue though, that these crops should be "designed" to be sterile, so that the native and local genetics do not get contaminated by experimental plants. Like what has been happening already unfortunately.
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lol give me a little credit man. although i do hardly remember all the stuff from my science classes in hs.
i mean i don't want to eat some "super crop" designed by the government. i'm just wary of this shit... fuckin science.
indeed how unfortunate
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09-08-2009, 09:23 PM
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I'll be eating eggs TO THE END!
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09-09-2009, 12:17 AM
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That shits fucked up, I dont think Ill eat eggs again. Put them in a grinder, wtf kinda messed up person could do that shit everyday? thats not right
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