Religious Tolerance

[Real Corona]

chocolate milk has the same value for you as white milk, it just tastes chocolatey

It has more sugar, and is therefore: not as healthy.

[SweetSativa]

ive run into that same problem trying to explain "religious" or "spiritual" concepts to people who ask questions but then cant/wont accept any kind of answer i give them.
ive noticed that happens with science and logical concepts too.

thats how it is tho, i do my best to feed the baby wholesome nutritious food, but all she wants is chocolate milk and fruit loops

You're good . Yeah, she just doesn't know... she hasn't had the experience of WITNESSing how nourishing the healthy food is for her body. She wont believe you just because you tell her how good it is for her, she likes the chocolate (who could blame her). I try to go for the healthy food that TASTES GOOD... some kids really like grapes and strawberries and apples and bananas.... and some like spinach (i've strange kids) and carrots and broccoli with cheese but the healthy food can be catered to ones liking and the chocolate as a treat occassionally never hurt anyone .
"Dr., it hurts when I do this... what should I do?"

"Don't do that!"

[snapshot]

Why ever start feeding your child unhealthy drinks and foods so they'd want it more? It seems reasonable to me to force them to like healthy foods because its the only choice you should ever give them. Let them find out on their own how great tasting the bad foods are.

[v3d4]

dont miss the point here:
wholesome nutritious food = discipline, morality, truth, goodness
junk food = selfishness, worldliness, waywardness, evil

[SweetSativa]

And so often it is all misunderstood... the healthy child is looked at by her peers with jealousy and even anger because she reverberates what she has witnessed as healthy food and the others believe that she thinks herself better than them. The ones eating unhealthy food are looked at by some others as lower (but the ones who see them this way are eating unhealthy food disguised as healthy food). If we have good food to share, we should just share the good food and not worry about what our dinner guests had last night. Give enough that they too can share.

Well, yeah... my head's always in that utopian cloud. You'll never believe this... but I can't help but share it (no symbolism.... correction... no intended or premeditated symbolism)... so funny... as I finished typing up this paragraph, I hear my four-year-old downstairs yell up at me (no joke), "Mom, can I have something healthy to eat?" lol

[atantricchic]

And so often it is all misunderstood... the healthy child is looked at by her peers with jealousy and even anger because she reverberates what she has witnessed as healthy food and the others believe that she thinks herself better than them. The ones eating unhealthy food are looked at by some others as lower (but the ones who see them this way are eating unhealthy food disguised as healthy food). If we have good food to share, we should just share the good food and not worry about what our dinner guests had last night. Give enough that they too can share.

My sisters, you rock incessantly. You should come with a rocking disclaimer.

Now, I heard from a friendly nutritionist, that sometimes the kids with the junk food can sense it's junky. It's never filling. Never satisfying. The kids that are eating healthy last longer with enrgy and accomplish more because THEY ARE WELL. They also get hungry less and are generally happier.

Some of the junk food bullies, though, often decide to pick on the healthy eater (out of the envy Sis Sativa re: to) instead of simply asking the healthy eater, "Hey! How do you stay so happy with so much energy and always in a good mood?" Cause I'm willing to to betcha anything, the healthy happy kid has already offered this info. And will share it on a dime.

That's how it is with the healthy people. They love to share the good news to others to see them well too. Must have something to do with being fulfilled and happy.

Junk food eaters rarely share... good thing, though. No one wants the misery.

[atantricchic]

Why ever start feeding your child unhealthy drinks and foods so they'd want it more? It seems reasonable to me to force them to like healthy foods because its the only choice you should ever give them. Let them find out on their own how great tasting the bad foods are.

Now, I thought on this awhile and I don't think that children really get to choose thiee content from the beginning. We are given a diet by our parents and healthy or unhealthy it does establish a pattern. But we can choose to continue it or break it.

I think it becomes a soul issue when the children get older ... are they more drawn to a healthier lifestyle and for what reasons is often determined by their own self-will.

Sometimes self-will if so strong and the resistance to change is so strong that we will try to change the entire world around us, to avoid changing a small thing within ourselves.

Sound silly?

It's the human condition for the weak in spirit. To try to torment every other healthy eater on the planet into changing to accomadate a few junkies eaters out of control desires... is insanity at best.

But more children will choose to resent the healthy eaters than will decide to change their own diet until they are happy with themselves.

Ultimately the choice of what you consume is in the hands of the consumer.

[atantricchic]

Not sure how this got into nutrition, but I guess its all related, esp considering how diet can effect changes in conciousness itself,and thus perception of much else.

Now that I thinkm of it, I can't picture a better symbolism to spiritual growth and development than nutrition and health of the human body.

Thanks for another kickass convo!

I'm going back to sleep...BRB

And hey, all the processed foods, ie preservative, colors...even flavours? What exactly do they mean by flavour? Artficial sweetner? See, if you get a cage of rats,and stick a certain chemical they're soft drink supply, and then you find that the rats partake of the drink more and more and in fact seem habituated to it, perhaps consumeing 50% more per day,and a preference for that drink than another with out the said chemical....you simply call the chem a flavour and thats how its all too commonly working these days and so the consumer is not really making that choice entirely, but maybe lulled into actual addictions, or compulsive eating, just as nicotine addicts get hooked too.

Like coca cola, in and of itself, could be behind a hell of a lot of obesity....addictive to some people. Maybe because of whats in it...associations... .certain trigger foods and or subtances that the body seeks out for equilibrium. Just that cigarettes are a very poor dilivery mechanism.

Maybe I should get a syringe and inject some of these "flavours" into Alexis carrots. Then she'll become addicted...lmao. haha, but really, I'm kinda seriously pondering doing that...

[RockyRacoon]

I tolerate alot of shit and religion is no differant. I draw the line when religion is used to make laws(outlawing gay marriage on a religous belief is horseshit) as well as getting preached on the the way to live my life.

[BibleGuy]

How important is it to you? Where do we draw the line? Do you feel that it is safe to practice any religion (or spiritual practice) of your choice?

Neopagan faiths... great-grandmother... herbs that she needed to heal herself...'transcend ental meditation center'... too bad I can't openly express my spirituality... have to worry about not wearing my pentagram in the public

I knew some people once that asked the members of another religious group about their building "is that where the demons sit?" - Offensive ignorance. People freak out when they see a pentagram because they believe propaganda and don't know history. The inquisition burned people like your great grandmother for possessing their herbs - sheer evil self-righteous tyrrants. They scoff at things like TM because they don't understand that "the kingdom of heaven is within you". People believe all kinds of crap about those they see as being "other", and they live and act in fear.

My perspective:
If I try to restrict or suppress your faith, practice or presence then I am the criminal. When I suppress you I suppress myself. I will support your right to your religion, even if it is not my religion, so long as it doesn't harm anyone.

Christian: "And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise."

Hindu: "One should never do that to another which one regards as injurious to one’s own self. This, in brief, is the rule of dharma. Other behavior is due to selfish desires."

Confucianism: "Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself."

Islam: "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you."

Judaism: "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn."

Wiccan: "an ye harm none, do what ye will"

Sikhism: "Whom should I despise, since the one Lord made us all."

Taoism: "Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain, and your neighbor's loss as your own loss."

What would the world be like if all people would live by this universal principle?

Peace

[Juicy_J]

The world would be different is about all I can say. With that said I gots love for one and all.