Lions & Christians (PB)

ok...

so veins are starting to hide, and collapse.

i saw it coming, yeah i know, no need for shame talk.

lets just cut to the chase, is there any drug i can take orally that will help slow this process down? i know it's eventually going to happen one way or another, however there has to be something that will slow this down...

nitrous glycine?

atenol?

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The most dangerous drug on this planet has to be oxygen.

A gateway drug to say the least, further more people use without even consideration, not consenting to moderation in the least, and dont even get me started on the withdrawels.

the goal of alchemy is to turn lead into gold. to take a substance and combine it with another substance that makes it more than it's origenal worth. in this sense, you really need to start making bronze statues of your pharmacist or local chemist, for they have made gods own medicine, morphine, and in contrast, a shiney rock doesnt seem to compete.

osirus2020

umm, your veins are collapsing?

you might wanna goto the hospitol

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Lions & Christians (PB)

chemo patient, dont worry, well taken care off.

their talking other means of ingestions now, if you get my drift, and i really want to push that off...


but yeah, im seen by a doctor daily, dont worry about that.

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The most dangerous drug on this planet has to be oxygen.

A gateway drug to say the least, further more people use without even consideration, not consenting to moderation in the least, and dont even get me started on the withdrawels.

the goal of alchemy is to turn lead into gold. to take a substance and combine it with another substance that makes it more than it's origenal worth. in this sense, you really need to start making bronze statues of your pharmacist or local chemist, for they have made gods own medicine, morphine, and in contrast, a shiney rock doesnt seem to compete.

drunken13astard

just stop?

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Lions & Christians (PB)

i'll repeat, im a chemo patient.

these drugs are perscribed for pain, and they've been uped since now i'm up to schedule 4 where i have a lymphnoid pushing the cancer throughout my body. I now have it even in my hip bone, i will not be cured, radiation and chemo is purely to keep it from spreading to other portions of my body that will make it more painful to live.

im not taking these drugs recreationally... well not entirely recreationally, so stopping is not an option.

the only other option is suppositories, and i really hate that idea.

please, for the love of god reserve you dumb comments of rehab, im not going to live for longer than a few years, rehab is kinda of pointless, and also going through all this pain plus withdrawel is well pointless.

if you dont have anything to add that may help my problem, reserve you post.

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The most dangerous drug on this planet has to be oxygen.

A gateway drug to say the least, further more people use without even consideration, not consenting to moderation in the least, and dont even get me started on the withdrawels.

the goal of alchemy is to turn lead into gold. to take a substance and combine it with another substance that makes it more than it's origenal worth. in this sense, you really need to start making bronze statues of your pharmacist or local chemist, for they have made gods own medicine, morphine, and in contrast, a shiney rock doesnt seem to compete.

Liberty Cap

Are they collapsing from injections or just collapsing? Injecting in the same spot, low gauge, going through the vein, tearing the vein, et cetera can all cause collapsed veins. My forearm veins are collapsed from shooting smack.

Lions & Christians (PB)

ingection.

i have about one vein left that isnt faded or collapsed out with a permanent IV in it for chemo... that isnt going to last long.

i cant use it for other, which yes, i did shoot smack as well as other substances when things got really painful.

right now im living off the morphine shots they put through my leg and even those are fading.

orally taking opiates or snorthing is a joke to me right about now, it does little to nothing. Im fearing pills in the butt is going to have to be my future.

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The most dangerous drug on this planet has to be oxygen.

A gateway drug to say the least, further more people use without even consideration, not consenting to moderation in the least, and dont even get me started on the withdrawels.

the goal of alchemy is to turn lead into gold. to take a substance and combine it with another substance that makes it more than it's origenal worth. in this sense, you really need to start making bronze statues of your pharmacist or local chemist, for they have made gods own medicine, morphine, and in contrast, a shiney rock doesnt seem to compete.

Liberty Cap

I've got some collapsed veins too as I mentioned previously, and I have been told they won't heal. Treat your remaining very carefully and they can stay good for several months at a time

Lions & Christians (PB)

yeah, unfortunately you're probably right.

which is why i would like some information on keeping those viens healthy, like vitamins, chemicals, drugs, anything that might help keep those going strong for awhile.

i know their not going to remain healthy, however i'd like to keep them going as long as i can.

however if ANYONE has any info, please present it, i fuckin' need it, this is no joke people.

i know im not the only IV user here, c'mon on people, out with your tricks.

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The most dangerous drug on this planet has to be oxygen.

A gateway drug to say the least, further more people use without even consideration, not consenting to moderation in the least, and dont even get me started on the withdrawels.

the goal of alchemy is to turn lead into gold. to take a substance and combine it with another substance that makes it more than it's origenal worth. in this sense, you really need to start making bronze statues of your pharmacist or local chemist, for they have made gods own medicine, morphine, and in contrast, a shiney rock doesnt seem to compete.

eldizle

RAe you rotating lions?

Make sure to rotate among all the goody gooodies on the forearm, top to bottom. Try not to overlap the shots, but stagger them in nice lil' railroads up\down the expressway....


Triple antibiotic cream helps me a lot with any bruising I get from dull\used up rigs\using one font too long. No clue if it helps the scarring any, but it makes the discoloration and hard lumps go away sooner

The best bet is rotation man. Do you have a roadmap of your veins for easy finding?

Legs perhaps? My calfs have had their fair share of sticks

Biceps, legs, inner thigh (not reccomended) even arteries (don't do these) have all been 2nd choices when my forearms\biceps have gotten too used up. I really have a problem with just sticking the rig anyplace I see a noticable blood-route....

Blah, good luck lions, nothing more frustrating than pushing 100 units intramuscular all up and down the thighs

Liberty Cap

I'll locate my needle tips sheet later and post it in a PM to you. Until then some tips.


1. Always use a new needle. Not only is it guarenteed to be clean, the point is still sharp. As you reuse needles, the beevle (Sp?) wears down. And it only takes 2-3 to take that beevle halfway down.


2. Use clean draws and pushes. Don't jerk or shake.


3. Dont dig for the veins. You'll not only tear the muscle area around it, you could accidentally rip the vein too.



Other than that, Don't repeat the same injection spot more than twice. Move down the vein. I was told that you shouldn't move up (as in to the hand). Don't know why though honestly. Do you feel for veins or only shoot for ones you can see? A lot of veins i hit in my arms and thighs I can feel the pulse if I lightly drag my finger over them, but I can't see at all.


Anyhow, that's all I can think of. you can ask me any questions in a Pm if you'd like.

sput·nik

save getting those hot lumps in veins that cause collapses.

[clear why these may be unpopular amongst recreational users.]



sacrifice that little bit of rush and untie before you inject.

use more units of solution.



literature should be available for vitamins & other regimines, i would think. i'll try some searches.

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Lions & Christians (PB)

thanks for all the replies!

finally i get some decent answers.

oh and sput, if you do find anything please post it, i've googled, bluelight, everything... very little success.

i do rotate when i shoot up however the hospital doesnt share my sentiments. they like using the same IV, in the same arm, heaven forbid they change positions of chair for the other arm.. but yeah.

my hand is dried up though unfortunately, i really liked the hand... my legs are going too and i hate going through them.

i am new to self administerering, and i know exactly what hot lumps mean, so perhaps more solution will help.

i also never even thought of anti-biotic cream, i'll see what my doctor can do there tommorrow... thanks ellis.

really thank you all, you've been very helpful and i was fearing i wasnt going to get any help.

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The most dangerous drug on this planet has to be oxygen.

A gateway drug to say the least, further more people use without even consideration, not consenting to moderation in the least, and dont even get me started on the withdrawels.

the goal of alchemy is to turn lead into gold. to take a substance and combine it with another substance that makes it more than it's origenal worth. in this sense, you really need to start making bronze statues of your pharmacist or local chemist, for they have made gods own medicine, morphine, and in contrast, a shiney rock doesnt seem to compete.

shermsticky

oh man, i fuckin HATE when that happens, which was after like 2 or 3 days of multiple shots. fuckin sucked. only thing you can do is inject in different spots/stop shooting for a day. i understand, it totally fucks up your use.

Home Wrecker

Giving a spot time to heal is the best thing you can do. It is that sticking a needle into a partially healed wound that will kill your veins.

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