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It seems to me that as the micro grows smaller, the macro grows larger.

It is easy to see that the story of mankind is a story of discovery. We each were born into our small tribal world and from time to time happened upon other worlds consisting of people similar yet certainly not the same. As these worlds interacted and grew the barriers between them became less distinct and, now unified, these people looked across what may have seemed to be a broader horizon and imagined what mystery might lie beyond it.

This is the archetypal pattern of discovery our forbears followed. From Greece to Persia to Rome to Christian Europe: each of these empires pushed the envelope of worldly awareness and uncovered evidence of a much wider world than had previously been imagined until, eventually, we thought we had discovered all there was to be found. As trade between continents increased, the world seemed to grow smaller and smaller in the way our tribal worlds grew smaller and less mystery-laden as we expanded and integrated.

This infliction of smallness on the world seemed to reach its peak when Vasco da Gama successfully sailed around Africa to the Indies, bringing trade across the whole known world full circle. Then Columbus, in an attempt to make the world even smaller, set out on an enterprise to reach the Indies by a western route. We can appreciate the irony of this voyage which instead succeeded in nearly doubling the size of the known world!

It now seems that the world is smaller than ever. We can buy anything from anywhere, learn any existing language and travel to interact with indigenous speakers of it in a matter of hours. Any corner of the planet can be reached instantaneously with the click of a mouse and we are integrating on an unprecedented scale. But what's next? Once our world comes full circle once again, how big will the real world turn out to be?

What mystery might await us beyond the small world we now inhabit? Think: spirals.

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Mescalito

The next stage.. other quite different states of reality.. the oneironauts.. the explorers of these new states.. akin to the great 'explorers' of the 'physical' world in the past.

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Ego Tripping

Next stage is exploration of the Self and Individual Expression...by far the most unknown territory we've attempted to explore. And beautifully enough, theres no way any force can stop it from happening (but by god, they are trying!).

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But what, in the grand scheme, is not exploration of the Self and Individual Expression? We learn more about our own expressions by exploring other expressions, for without the contrast other expressions provide when viewed alongside our own it's all meaningless.

Are contacts such as Bashar, RA, Elias, and Seth the next stage in this process of contrast? Could be. Only how we calibrate our own expressions -- our synchronicity -- will tell.

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KrunkHaus

Crab people. bongsmilie

Ego Tripping

Let me rephrase: intentional and aware exploration of the Self and Individual Expression.

They lead us to the Great Truth: we are all a portion of The Creator and thus, Creators ourselves. The next stage is a stage that "evolution occurs within the individual, not merely at the whim of the collective." A world that is designed with the personal intentions of everyone achieving their excitement.

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Waves

Exploration of seperation

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You rock, rock.
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Waves

The contacts are our strategy guides. But most people prefer to play the game without strategy guides.

The next stage is simply about dropping the veil of seperation that currently exists in each of our perceptions. Its not about changing from focusing on others to self- however that is a side effect of dropping the veil- its about realizing your place, remembering why you are here, what you truely are, where you are going, etc etc.

its about simply finding what you love and living a happy life as opposed to getting up everyday to an alarm clock ringing in your ear wishing you didnt have to go to some shitty job to make some shitty money for some shitty car and some shitty house that you really dont want in the first place.

i could go on

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You rock, rock.
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Waves

Speaking of channels, heres one called Kris:

KRIS: Now we trust that you are all comfortable and we thank you for your consideration and an additional heartfelt thank you to all of those who, in one way or another, provided assistance to enable Joseph to obtain his certification.

This evening we would like to speak on the subject of "Who are you?" And as you can easily imagine, whether your own minds or someone else's will immediately confirm, "Well, yes, I am so-and-so, and I have done this and that, and I have experienced this, that, and the other thing." Others, who may have a different bent, may say, "I am Essence, I am this, I am that thing." Yet, we still ask, "But indeed, DO you know who you are? Who are you?"

And immediately your minds rush like wildfire to a great variety of events and incidences, circumstances, and all the various conditions of your life as a type of identifier that obviously, these things above mentioned are all proof that you are who you are. Or you might even take your wallet out, or your purse, and show your driver's license or any other socially-enabling identification. Or you might point to the looking glass and say, "THIS is me. This is who and what I am." And yet, we would still concur to our previous question, "Who are you?"

Because, from our perspective and even from your forgotten perspective, which would be not that different from ours, you are very different from all of the identifiers, you are very different from all of the tags, all of the labels, all of the flags, all of the various enumerators that you have utilized to form an identity, to form a presentation of who and what you are. And as you continue on your life journey, the true notion of who you are may indeed become so buried, so deeply buried, that you can only identify with your reactions to conditions, events, circumstances, etc.

And you further muddle self-identification with things like "This one caused me this, that one caused me to do this, the government causes me to act this way," and so on and so forth. And as the condition evolves, it becomes more and more difficult to identify with yourself and easier and easier to leave that self behind and identify instead with strings of apparent cause and effect, seeing and believing yourselves to be the result of those events, conditions and circumstances that you claim have molded, shaped and created the person that you are.

And yet, we claim that that individual may indeed be false in the sense that this latter individual is manufactured for the purposes of hiding and protecting the one that is within or inside that shell that may at times get thicker and thicker to the point where not only that which is apparently outside can no longer reach that which is within: YOU and that which is within - meaning you - can no longer relate to who you are, but instead accept those temporal, manufactured identifications or masks.

And gradually that individual may acquire a sense of losing oneself, unable to feel their connection with life, no longer able to feel their own power and authority, thus experience powerlessness, perhaps even give up their innate ability to revel in their capacity to choose and advocate that capacity into what is referred to as depression as an alternative means of choice by default, thus living vicariously through what we often call the soap opera of life, just as in your own world there are people who indeed live vicariously through the soap operas weekday afternoons.

We only bring this up because it eventually becomes important to start asking that question to oneself. "Who am I? What have I become? Where is and who is my SELF? And is my SELF still available? Reachable? And can I ever again connect with that SELF that I am?" And in these cases, "SELF" would be in capital letters. SELF, in that respect, is something very different from all of the attachments that have become part of its temporal, temporary, artificial identifications. And life can then appear truly like a maze, often finding the dead-ends, feeling that sense of personal frustration.

But there are indeed many different ways to recover and re-discover who you are, and we must point out that who you are is not necessarily a finished product, like when you buy a box of teabags on the shelf. Self is an ever-changing, ever-expanding, growing process. Unlike all of the attachments and the psychological and emotional baubles that you have glued to your ideas about Self, to the point where you may no longer recognize who and what you are. And so very many people carry huge burdens with them their whole lives long, they can only identify then, with their burdens, their challenges and have forgotten that the burdens and the challenges are not who and what they are, they are something very different.

In a few moments, we will encourage you all to join us on a lovely inner journey to get a better sense of who that Self that you are, is. Before we venture on this journey, perhaps some of you may have questions about this.

Read on if you wish:
Kris Chronicles

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You rock, rock.
The rock just sits and is.
You show us how to just sit here, and that's what we need.

Ego Tripping

Kick ass find, Waves, thanks. Here is a section I found very relevant:

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Canuck Wisdom

I support the thinking that has occurred in this thread.

It seems to me that humans are on the verge of a transition similar in transition to the original move to civilization (domestication of plants and animals, first cities). But this movement, given how 'small' the world is now, will happen at an extraordinarily faster rate of change.

Pursuit of profits as the primary drive behind human work will be eliminated within the century, almost necessarily. Once we all realize we're stuck here together and the best way for each of us to deal with it is to keep each other happy.

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-Knowitall A&P type-

Mescalito

Word. bongsmilie

M

verklingen

The Guides are gearing us up for a new kind of discovery and a new kind of exploration: one beyond this minute, understood world which once entertained the imaginations of all people from all places. These Guides are showing us what lies just beyond the veil; and how overwhelmingly large the "world" (or "playground") will seem then!

We have an open invitation to the jungle gym once we're done sorting out our feuds and ironing out our awareness.

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Mescalito

An inetersting link... Jean Gebser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

'Gebser traces the evidence for the transformations of the structure of consciousness as they are concretized in historical artifacts. He sought to avoid calling this process "evolutionary", since any such notion was illusory when applied to the "unfolding of consciousness." Biological evolution, as Gebser noted at length, was an enclosing process, that particularized a species to a limited environment. The unfolding of awareness is by contrast an opening-up. Any attempt to give a direction or goal to the unfolding of awareness is illusory in that it is based upon a limited notion of time, the mental, which is linear and hence implies "progress." To be sure, Gebser was fully aware that any notion of "human progress" was already played out. He notes that "to progress" is to move toward but is also a moving away from, and he knew that the question as to the fate of humanity is still open, that for it to become closed would be the ultimate tragedy, but that such a closure remains a possibility. Our fate is not assured by any notion of "an evolution toward" any kind of ideal way of being.'

verklingen

Right on target kosh, in a kind of indirect way. What this thread is really addressing is the micro becoming the macro, and the macro becoming the micro. For example, the world (macro) was once ripe with chance for discovery. Once discovered and integrated, the world itself became (or is headed toward becoming, once we settle our differences) the micro: the global becomes the local.

The familial becomes the tribal, the tribal becomes the national, the national becomes the continental, the continental becomes the global, the global becomes the. . . ? This is the template our unfolding awareness has followed. So yes! They do both grow together because as the micro expands, causing the macro to contract, the contraction of the macro is like a tightly folded bud just waiting to unfold into a new macro to accommodate the expanding micro.

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Ego Tripping

Even Gods unaware of why it exists. bongsmilie

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I'm watching a Bashar session I hadn't come across yet, and he detailed something very striking that I think goes well with the topic of this thread.

In it he introduces the term "sub-theonic particle" and defines all things as sub-theonic particles of All-That-Is.

This is what I was REALLY getting at with this thread. In the unfolding of our awareness (beginning from any level: atomic, molecular, solar, planetary, organic, animal, or human) we build bigger and stronger "sub-theonic molecules:" bigger and stronger amalgamations and constituencies. We've done this through the ages, driven by our thirst for discovery: families, tribes, and societies forming molecules and merging with other such molecules. This is a process which begun with our dispersement from Africa, and the process is advancing with more and more speed as we approach the innevitable achievement of a WORLD-WIDE sub-theonic molecule: when our entire planet itself becomes a UNIT of All-That-Is.

In this session to which I am referring Bashar extends an invitation, hoping that we may choose to, when the time is right, unfold our awareness and accept his society and its associates into it as we've accepted all other discoveries and ever thirsted for more.

Drink up, if you wish:

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Ego Tripping

bongsmilie

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JcP

Ego, I'm workin on it!
(PS, that's really trippy to type out. It's like I'm talking to my ego...which is what I'm doing in real life when I think about that stuff....<twilight zone music>)


Verk, please come visit me in the sandbox or the slides man! I'm not too much of a jungle gym guy. I'll come visit you too

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Just look out around us, people fightin their wars...
They think they'll be happy when they've settled their scores...
Let's lay down our weapons
and hold us apart
be still for just a minute
try to open our hearts
MORE LOVE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rev It's not what you see, it's that you're looking.

verklingen

Do you guys realize that we are able to interact on here in this way because we are connected and interacting elsewhere, on other levels, in more profound ways? Do you understand that meeting here on YaHooka is a part of that process' unfolding?

I'm already there JcP, we all are. We're all just coming to realize it as our awareness unfolds.

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