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Old 05-01-2007, 08:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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will there ever be peace on earth

peace on earth is it just wishful thinking or should such a goal even be attempted.



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Old 05-01-2007, 08:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If people want it bad enough...

But as it is, people seem to have their focus else where.

Living in a world of fragmentation also never helps.

I honestly don't see it happening any time soon.


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Old 05-01-2007, 08:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the goal is being attempted right now! Each of us chooses peace or conflict every day of our lives. bring the fight to the individual, for it is the individual which creates the society. hear ye hear ye
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ill take peace in a heart beat, but if the individual is corrupted so is society and you cant have peace in a corrupt society.
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Shut up god damn hippies....there will never be peace.
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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There already is peace on Earth. It's just that we're attracting, mostly through fear, an alternate reality wherein we do not experience this peace.

Although, as Waves said, the individual can experience very much "peace on Earth" if he decides as much.
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:08 AM   #8 (permalink)
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There will never be total peace on earth. There are too many variables that make it impossible. Like murderers, terrorists and criminals in general.
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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^ Perfect example of attracting what you fear by radiating negative attention. You get what you give!
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The universe is a mirror, reflecting back at you what you radiate. If you radiate something having to do with murderers, terrorists, or criminals in general you will receive a reflection containing those concepts and be open to experience the effects of those concepts. By using the certain words you have chosen (most notably "criminals in general") to designate the persons to which you are referring, you attach negativity to the mental concepts such people are manifestations of and thus give the concepts negative attention. In this way you are telling the universe "I want experiences which include crime," and the universe is helpless to oblige.

If you don't attach special meaning to murderers, terrorists, or criminals in general and instead see them for what they really are (concepts which hold no special meaning outside of the meaning you attach to, and thereby attract, them) the universe will pick up on your lack of interest in such concepts and your experience of reality will be devoid of such concepts. What you experience is entirely up to you.
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Shut up god damn hippies....there will never be peace.
If you hate stoners, stoner music and whatever else you hate why are you here?




And why hasn't he been banned?
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The universe is a mirror, reflecting back at you what you radiate. If you radiate something having to do with murderers, terrorists, or criminals in general you will receive a reflection containing those concepts and be open to experience the effects of those concepts. By using the certain words you have chosen (most notably "criminals in general") to designate the persons to which you are referring, you attach negativity to the mental concepts such people are manifestations of and thus give the concepts negative attention. In this way you are telling the universe "I want experiences which include crime," and the universe is helpless to oblige.

If you don't attach special meaning to murderers, terrorists, or criminals in general and instead see them for what they really are (concepts which hold no special meaning outside of the meaning you attach to, and thereby attract, them) the universe will pick up on your lack of interest in such concepts and your experience of reality will be devoid of such concepts. What you experience is entirely up to you.

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I still believe peace and love and happiness can be worked out some way. I am a fool.
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I still believe peace and love and happiness can be worked out some way. I am a fool.
No, you're just ahead of the pack.

Give em time to catch up, have some faith. Enjoy your view.
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for the record, kurt vonnegut said that.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The universe is a mirror, reflecting back at you what you radiate. If you radiate something having to do with murderers, terrorists, or criminals in general you will receive a reflection containing those concepts and be open to experience the effects of those concepts. By using the certain words you have chosen (most notably "criminals in general") to designate the persons to which you are referring, you attach negativity to the mental concepts such people are manifestations of and thus give the concepts negative attention. In this way you are telling the universe "I want experiences which include crime," and the universe is helpless to oblige.

If you don't attach special meaning to murderers, terrorists, or criminals in general and instead see them for what they really are (concepts which hold no special meaning outside of the meaning you attach to, and thereby attract, them) the universe will pick up on your lack of interest in such concepts and your experience of reality will be devoid of such concepts. What you experience is entirely up to you.
I agree with all of this, but the last bit. Thats simply not true and you know it. What you make of the experiences, the meaning you imbue them, the value they take on positive or negative is up to you and defines your experience. But you do not decide what happens to you, only what you do.


I think there will be (relative) peace on earth within two centuries. Over the next half century or so there will be alot of conflict, but eventually a new world order will emerge that honours togetherness and efficiency. Confederate local democracies combined with regional and global benchmarks and commitments are the way of the future of our planet.

We will still see majour and minor struggle between global powers and tribal or regional parties as the world matures and learns about its relationship with itself, as one.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:24 PM   #19 (permalink)
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there's too many society's that socialize their citizens very very differently for everyone to just "get along" and sing songs and hold hands and share.

that and greed, envy, and lust destroy... but mostly greed.

communes could work for small scale peace.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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There will never be peace on earth as long as the following exist.

Money, race and religion

Those three things are the root of all evil, at least thats what I think. Money is the main cause of war though. Thats my opinion anyways.
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